Westboro Baptist Church is thwarted!

[redlueliger]

As ardently as I disagree with their message they DO have every right to say it.

Indeed. But my first instict if I saw a WBC member would still be to beat him senseless.

 

[Hiphophippo]

As ardently as I disagree with their message they DO have every right to say it.

Indeed. But my first instict if I saw a WBC member would still be to beat him senseless.

It's a personal life goal of mine to have them protest me for something. Not sure what, but boy that'd be swell.

 

[redlueliger]

'To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates."

Take that up with the IRS my friend.

Regarding "influencing legislation," I don't know of a single bill that the WBC has been in favor of. So that one is shot down.

Second, the WBC is not campaigning for or against anyone. They very carefully avoid sponsoring AND/OR berating any political figure. Again, shot down.

Thanks.

all it takes is one slip up.

They have MAD PHOTOSHOP SKILLZ!

 

[Fleischer]

Evidently. But I can see how the whole outlandish 'dry British wit' concept can be difficult to pick up on to an outsider, especially in text. But really come on, you are on a gaming forum 'on the internets', not everyone is going to engage purely in a dry ethical debate. What I said was clearly not meant to be taken as literal truth.

Absolutely, agreed. My general policy is that I write and present myself as a neutral and objective person, both in real life and on-line, and once I can gauge a person, as well as expecting them to be able to "get me," I will try using elements of sarcasm. I tend to stick to the facts when I first encounter someone. At least we are beginning to understand each other.

So word to the wise, playing the neutral objectivity card is all well and good, but without appreciating that not everyone is going to do the same it just comes accross as bloody patronising.

I did not mean to come off in that manner, and if you felt so, I apologize.

 

[Scipio1770]

all it takes is one slip up.

Hah - I hadn't seem that image before. Nice find!

Yeah there are a couple of them out there, anyway i guess that settles that more or less right?

 

[sleeky01]

Now I'm not conversant with American federal law, but I wonder if Stalking charges can me made against the Phelps family.

Stalking:

A form of harassment generally comprised of repeated persistent following with no legitimate reason and with the intention of harming, or so as to arouse anxiety or fear of harm in the person being followed. Stalking may also take the form of harassing telephone calls, computer communications, letter-writing, etc.

http://law.yourdictionary.com/stalking

Now the case for stalking couldn't be made for a specific person at their funeral probably, but could not a class suit be made on behalf of the estates of the those whose funeral they protested in the past?

If some bright hot-shot lawyer wants to make his/her mark and enjoys the limelight of media attention.....*shrug*

Or maybe a retired Lawyer (Retired does not mean giving up your license) with alot of time on his/her hands?

 

[BanthaFodder]

God Bless these good people. it just goes to show that sometimes, different people can all rally behind a force of evil.
tbh, if I wasn't one of the people kicking their ass at the gas station, you can betyour ass I'd play dumb when the cops startedwith the questions.
"he had a glass eye and a striped convict's shirt."
"any defining characteristics?"
"hooks for hands. and he was carrying a big sack with a dollar sign on it."

 

[Fleischer]

Yeah there are a couple of them out there, anyway i guess that settles that more or less right?

Phelps might to try claim his "demonizing" of Obama is part of his religion. He is a slippery bugger like that. I respect the fact you might've found a ***** in their armor, tho.

 

[N3vans]

Evidently. But I can see how the whole outlandish 'dry British wit' concept can be difficult to pick up on to an outsider, especially in text. But really come on, you are on a gaming forum 'on the internets', not everyone is going to engage purely in a dry ethical debate. What I said was clearly not meant to be taken as literal truth.

Absolutely, agreed. My general policy is that I write and present myself as a neutral and objective person, both in real life and on-line, and once I can gauge a person, as well as expecting them to be able to "get me," I will try using elements of sarcasm. I tend to stick to the facts when I first encounter someone. At least we are beginning to understand each other.

So word to the wise, playing the neutral objectivity card is all well and good, but without appreciating that not everyone is going to do the same it just comes accross as bloody patronising.

I did not mean to come off in that manner, and if you felt so, I apologize.

Ah fair enough man, sorry for being snappy its 4am here. That and the red mist decends a bit whenever the westboro lot are involved in anything, as I'm sure you could tell from my op XD

 

[Scipio1770]

'To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates."

Take that up with the IRS my friend.

Regarding "influencing legislation," I don't know of a single bill that the WBC has been in favor of. So that one is shot down.

Second, the WBC is not campaigning for or against anyone. They very carefully avoid sponsoring AND/OR berating any political figure. Again, shot down.

Thanks.

all it takes is one slip up.

They have MAD PHOTOSHOP SKILLZ!

I figured someone would say that.

 

[Scipio1770]

Yeah there are a couple of them out there, anyway i guess that settles that more or less right?

Phelps might to try claim his "demonizing" of Obama is part of his religion. He is a slippery bugger like that. I respect the fact you might've found a ***** in their armor, tho.

Oh of course, the fact that he's still parading himself around is testament to that. But yeah i like to think that over the past few months I've built up a nice little personal case against them ever since they visited my town.

 

[JordanMillward_1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#United_Kingdom

I love living in the UK, at least we mostly don't have to deal with fuck-wits like that.

 

[ejb626]

When I read this thread title I thought that WBC had finally dissolved I guess they can't be beaten that easily. Unfortunately they have several generations in line to take Shit King Phelps' place after he dies. This is still nice I'm to echo what people on the site have been saying and say that towns around the country should use this as a model to deter these assholes.

 

[Uzbekistan]

Ummm... excuse me for not knowing about any of this stuff, but why is WBC even protesting?

 

[ezeroast]

good work, should happen more often

 

[LadyRhian]

This article is about a town in Mississippi called Rankin. Who thwarted the Westboro Baptist Church from protesting another funeral.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/04/westboro-baptists-defeated.html#more

My hat is off to the town of Rankin. I just hope more people and places begin doing more against the church.

Ha! I like that response. A lot. Well, except for the beating. That was bad and over the line. But I wonder if the guy who got his "ass waxed" according to the story/post really didn't remember who did it to him or if he just got so scared by the incident that he lied like a rug. It doesn't seem like that would be the WBC's M.O., since they enjoy making people cross the line against them and then sue their asses off.

In short, I like the mostly non-violent way it was handled.

I can't think of many better ways to disrespect someone who died for their country then to deny a group of people their rights, once again the rights the dead man died for, in some kind of twisted way to honor said dead person.

First amendment rights don't cover incitement. You could say that these guys are doing the equivalent of shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theatre, which is NOT a first amendment right. They are hoping to incite an incident with the family and loved ones at the funeral.

 

[Agayek]

I suppose I can mostly dig that -- makes that angel counter-protest a little less flaky, if nothing else.

I mean, it doesn't do anything about the irony of their imagery, but it does distinguish from if their PVC wings had also been spud cannons. >_>

I'll laugh if someone does that. I'll still call them law-breaking shitheads, but I'll laugh.

In all honesty, though, if people can find legal means of stopping the Phelps, I'm all for that. Rankin county didn't. They battered and threatened. I'm not suite sure where I started conflating legal means and illegal means (and I'm not sure I did).

Probably didn't, I just don't particularly care enough to go through and figure out how I got on that topic. That's just generally how things play out when I'm bored at work.

 

[captaincabbage]

Aww, I am gravely disappointed.

Not because WBC didn't protest, but because I opened up this thread genuinely expecting the headlines to be "WBC bombed by US Combat Patrol.".

Am I the only one who is disappointed?