Western martial arts, something you never see in movies

[ThePlasmatizer]

Some British martial arts:

Milling
Boxing
Baritsu (hat and cane required lol)

 

[Ares Tyr]

Some British martial arts:

Milling
Boxing
Baritsu (hat and cane required lol)

But Bartitsu (or Baritsu, however you spell it) is a combination art isn't it? The guy who invented studied Eastern martial arts and combined it with fencing and boxing techniques if I'm right.

 

[Sayvara]

Fencing the Olympic sport moves so damn fast most people can't tell what is going on. Kendo its eastern relative has so many rules about what constitutes a valid hit that most people can't tell what is going on their either. The only way the average beer swilling, football watching, man on the street can even comprehend what is going on in a sword fight is if it is spoon fed to him through a choreographed stage fight. I know I am coming off very elitist here but I have spent nine years fencing foil and it aggravates me to no end to hear some one say "I can do that" then flail around like the star wars kid for a few seconds.

Mm hm, exactly. I seem to remember a comment about Demolition Man where Wesley Snipes had to slow down and not do his martial arts moves too fast because he blurred the shots. Friend of mine describes fencing as waiting for the opening and then just finish it. Real fencing does not make a good movie.

/S

 

[Zykon TheLich]

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[BallPtPenTheif]

oh, somebody mentioned wrestling which reminded me of Pancrais

You mean pankration?

sure

 

[cleverlymadeup]

According to wikipedia, he was heavily influenced by Western boxing and fencing. He apparently started using Wing Chun, but gave up Wing Chun for the most part, replacing it with what he considered to be the more fluid and flexible boxing and fencing stances.

It's funny, I always used to think that he fashioned his style based on just surface observations of other styles. In actuality he was very well versed in traditional boxing, evening being a boxing champion in China, and his brother was a fencer.

actually a lot of the JKD stuff that Bruce used was based on philipino martial arts, coming from Dan Inasanto. but he did take a lot of stuff from different martial arts but only stuff that worked on an alive opponent, so you get a kick from Kung Fu or one from Muay Thai and a punch from boxing

tho Bruce had said "unless you have 4 arms you will always punch, kick and block in the same way"

his brother Peter was a world champion fencer

and as for martial arts most were born out of pankration, which is a greek invention, Alexander the Great's men liked to fight in their off time, a few indians adapted and modified it calling it kalarippayattu

then Bodhidharma took it to china and taught it to the monks of Shaolin and then as the say the rest was history

 

[Ares Tyr]

and as for martial arts most were born out of pankration, which is a greek invention, Alexander the Great's men liked to fight in their off time, a few indians adapted and modified it calling it kalarippayattu

then Bodhidharma took it to china and taught it to the monks of Shaolin and then as the say the rest was history

Another reason why I'm so proud of my heritage.

 

[Beowulf DW]

I've heard of Western Martial Arts before. And by Western Martial Arts, I'm referring to the weapons styles that were designed for use in serious combat, as opposed to fencing which always seemed to center around the duel.

I'd love to study some form of it, as it is a part of my cultural heritage. Unfortunately, I can't find any Western Martial Arts organizations within a reasonable distance of my residence.

 

[jim_doki]

my favorite martial art is the scottish martial art of FUKYEW

its basically just headbutting and kicking someone when they're on the ground

 

[meatloaf231]

Well, because western martial arts aren't as flippy and spinny and kicky.

And that's what the general public likes.

 

[minoes]

In The Count of Monte Cristo (2002), Edmond Dantes fights using Savate.

 

[Sayvara]

he beat the ever-loving crap out of three guys with nothing but a rolled up newspaper.

Ah, the 'Chelsea Brick'...a rolled up newspaper can be a pretty vicious weapon as long as you do it right. Roll the paper up into a tube and then fold it in half at the middle. The folded bit is very hard, and the rest of the papaer is stil fairly flexible, which gives it a flail like quality. Beating up 3 guys at once is pretty hard, but using a newspaper to do it is not as amazing as you might think.

Heh... reminds me of one of my favourite scenes with Sean Connery, where a meat neck in a bar picks a fight with Connery's character: a military officer. Connery calmly turns around and asks the bully if he really wishes to get into a fight... because this senior officer will just be using his thumb. His right thumb to be exact... because the left one he says is much too powerful for the troublesome wanker.

Said and done... a minute later the bully has been waltzed all over the place, indeed using little more than a thumb and is now addressing Connery by "Sir" while being held at... well... thumb-point.

/S

 

[Aries_Split]

Nothing tops mexican martial arts.

Step 1:Break beer bottle over enemies head.
Step 2: Throw hot sauce in the eyes of the enemy.
Step 3:Light the fucking on fire.
Step 4:Go out, buy taco's, throw a party, dance, and get a 19 year old pregnant.
Step 5:Come back, spit on the body, then leave.
Step 7rofit!

 

[Ares Tyr]

Nothing tops mexican martial arts.

Step 1:Break beer bottle over enemies head.
Step 2: Throw hot sauce in the eyes of the enemy.
Step 3:Light the fucking on fire.
Step 4:Go out, buy taco's, throw a party, dance, and get a 19 year old pregnant.
Step 5:Come back, spit on the body, then leave.
Step 6: ????
Step 7rofit!

There's always question marks before the profit!

 

[poleboy]

and as for martial arts most were born out of pankration, which is a greek invention, Alexander the Great's men liked to fight in their off time, a few indians adapted and modified it calling it kalarippayattu

then Bodhidharma took it to china and taught it to the monks of Shaolin and then as the say the rest was history

That claim is more than seeped in controversy. Considering how old and unreliable the sources are, I'm inclined to believe that Bodhidharma had little more than a superficial influence on the development of Chinese MA. There is little evidence to suggest that he was even a practicioner himself.

 

[Sayvara]

Speaking of what martial art was first and who bases their teachings on what...

Fact remains that some principles in a fight are universal and everyone will find them out sooner or later. To get out of the way of a blow and use the enemy's momentum against himself to throw him off balance is not a special "secret" that any particular MA discovered first. It's just plain old fasioned common sense.

/S

 

[Ares Tyr]

and as for martial arts most were born out of pankration, which is a greek invention, Alexander the Great's men liked to fight in their off time, a few indians adapted and modified it calling it kalarippayattu

then Bodhidharma took it to china and taught it to the monks of Shaolin and then as the say the rest was history

That claim is more than seeped in controversy. Considering how old and unreliable the sources are, I'm inclined to believe that Bodhidharma had little more than a superficial influence on the development of Chinese MA. There is little evidence to suggest that he was even a practicioner himself.

Despite the fact that almost every eastern martial art traces its roots to the Shaolin Temple and admittedly hails Bodhidharma as the originator of Eastern martial arts?

I'm willing to give them that Greece may have not been the originator of all formulated martial arts, but Bodhidharma definetly had a hand in things.