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Georgeman

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No remakes please. Final Fantasy VI was re-released just 3 years ago on the Gameboy Advance. And yes, it's true that it can be difficult tracking down this version. For those who really want to see what the greatness is all about, might I recommend instead that Square just release it on VirtualConsole/Live/PSN/whatever and be done with it? Pointless remakes are pointless remakes.

Edit: Then again, I forget that the DS has the highest userbase of this generation. I also forget that Nintendo doesn't have any kind of Virtual Console for the DS. So, in conclusion, I guess that Square should only release a remake of the game if the console is the DS. Yeah, no HD remake guys.
 

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Georgeman said:
No remakes please. Final Fantasy VI was re-released just 3 years ago on the Gameboy Advance. And yes, it's true that it can be difficult tracking down this version. For those who really want to see what the greatness is all about, might I recommend instead that Square just release it on VirtualConsole/Live/PSN/whatever and be done with it? Pointless remakes are pointless remakes.

Edit: Then again, I forget that the DS has the highest userbase of this generation. I also forget that Nintendo doesn't have any kind of Virtual Console for the DS. So, in conclusion, I guess that Square should only release a remake of the game if the console is the DS. Yeah, no HD remake guys.
I'd normally agree with the "no remake" mindset, but the remakes of III and IV convinced me that they can be done properly. Between the transition from 2D to 3D, the rewritten script, the updated combat system and monster AI and the new dungeons, they're essentially entirely new games. I'd love to see V and VI given this treatment (particularly the updated monster AI, since most of us can beat any of VI's bosses in our sleep at this point).

So yeah. DS remake, yes please. HD remake, probably not as good an idea.
 

Mr. GameBrain

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FFVI should be a console only remake, with Dissidia level graphics, (but with much better voice acting).
The great thing about VI, is the level of exploration you get out of the game, heck I would argue the only RPG that rivals it at that time was Breath of Fire. (And only subsequently beat in my opinion, by FFIX and Golden Sun 1 and 2)

What I mean about good "level" is that its open world, but its not filled with loads of pointless areas that don't really have much significance, nor too open that it takes an unreasonably long time to get to where you want to go, (*cough*Wind Waker*cough*).

Also with VI's plot, I would think, with some good writing, it is also possible to not only expand the plotline, but branch it out as well.

I would like to know what might've happened, for example, if Cyan hadn't got over the poisoning of Doma, or if Celes had successfully commited suicide, would the party have ever been reformed?
 

Georgeman

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Space Spoons said:
I'd normally agree with the "no remake" mindset, but the remakes of III and IV convinced me that they can be done properly. Between the transition from 2D to 3D, the rewritten script, the updated combat system and monster AI and the new dungeons, they're essentially entirely new games. I'd love to see V and VI given this treatment (particularly the updated monster AI, since most of us can beat any of VI's bosses in our sleep at this point).

So yeah. DS remake, yes please. HD remake, probably not as good an idea.
It still would be pointless in my opinion. I can understand the remake for Final Fantasy III. It was a game that was not released on the West. But I kept scratching my head over the announcement of Final Fantasy IV DS. I mean, it was just 1 year ago that Final Fantasy IV had been re-released on GBA. What the hell was Square thinking?! Why not focus instead on Final Fantasies that haven't seen re-releases? (Like IX for example)

I don't know. I just see remakes of games that have been recently re-released as pointless. Doubly pointless if they end up selling significantly less than the original like Final Fantasy IV DS did. (Which might point to the fact that not many people might have wanted the remake in the first place)

LordNue said:
They should release the GBA FF releases on the DS as a collection or something.
Hmmm, something like Dawn of Souls? Or what Capcom will be doing with the Megaman Zero series? That could be a good idea.
 

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They're releasing an MMZ collection or something? I'm not sure if I should be sad or happy. I actually liked the first one but hated all the others and I hated the series but gameplay wise they were fine. I'll probably get it.
But I dunno, I guess so. Stick them all in a cart or two and release it on the DS as a collection. Make them the GBA versions with some alterations such as maps on the bottom screen or something. And then new generation people can experience the old games in one easy package wherever they are.
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Brad Shepard

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SavingPrincess said:
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I have the best reason for a FFVII remake. As if the remake was made people would stop asking for it and wasting their money on spin offs hoping for one thus allowing FFVII to rest in piece and Square can stop ruining my favourite FF.
I say if they remake FFVII, they do it in FFVI style 2D top down pixel-based art with no voiceovers, no FMV's, complete non-sampled MIDI soundtrack and no added material whatsoever.

I would buy and play that.
why the 8 hate? besides, i found the combat to be a blast and a half, it was intresting and it made you think.
 

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Brad Shepard said:
why the 8 hate? besides, i found the combat to be a blast and a half, it was intresting and it made you think.
I should save this for another thread, but since you asked:

- No characters besides Squall, Rinoa, Seifer, Laguna and Eda (Edea?) mattered, and the game would have been virtually the same without the entire "supporting cast"
- Needless grinding of magic suckage from enemies
- Most angsty (Squall) of all the FF heroes... ever, proved by the first lines in the game consisted of mostly "Whatever"
- Guardian Force/Junction system was the worst in FF history; it made little sense and was easily exploitable
- Weapon Upgrade/Purchase (magazines or whatever) system was the most out of place and pointless in FF history
- The transition between Squall's story and Laguna's story was disjointed and either horribly translated, or just horribly written
- Unless you molded your characters in a specific way, the last dungeon was needlessly impossible (as in "broken" not "difficult")
- Rinoa was the single most paper-thin heroine in FF history
- Seifer was the only character that was 'potentially' interesting, and they did nothing of note with him

... shall I go on?
 

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SavingPrincess said:
Brad Shepard said:
why the 8 hate? besides, i found the combat to be a blast and a half, it was intresting and it made you think.
I should save this for another thread, but since you asked:

- No characters besides Squall, Rinoa, Seifer, Laguna and Eda (Edea?) mattered, and the game would have been virtually the same without the entire "supporting cast"
- Needless grinding of magic suckage from enemies
- Most angsty (Squall) of all the FF heroes... ever, proved by the first lines in the game consisted of mostly "Whatever"
- Guardian Force/Junction system was the worst in FF history; it made little sense and was easily exploitable
- Weapon Upgrade/Purchase (magazines or whatever) system was the most out of place and pointless in FF history
- The transition between Squall's story and Laguna's story was disjointed and either horribly translated, or just horribly written
- Unless you molded your characters in a specific way, the last dungeon was needlessly impossible (as in "broken" not "difficult")
- Rinoa was the single most paper-thin heroine in FF history
- Seifer was the only character that was 'potentially' interesting, and they did nothing of note with him

... shall I go on?
I will answere in order:

Counterpoint, here we go.

I, for one, liked all the charecters, and they all had there points somewhere along the game, except maybe Zell, and the game was ment to revolve around Squall and Riona anyway.

The game had some grind, but thats true of all JRPGs

yes, squall had angst, but he was a orphan who more or less lost his family twice, you try not having angst after that.

the GF system made perfect sence, i got it after 10 minutes, its preety simple to understand if you ask me

the weapon upgrades where different, all the weapons systems where different from 7 through 10, 7 you found them, 8 you built them, 9 you forged them together, and 10 you dident have to do anything except upgrade this crap out of them, if you ask me, 10's was a bit worse for these sence they gave you the 2nd most powerful weapon for Titus right from the get go.

The Squall/ Laguna transition was ment to be disjointed, it was ment to be confusing, you where not ment to know why it happens untel the end.

that can be said about any rpg form that age, i used Squall Rinoa and Zell, and i had a preety simple time, with only about 5 of my powers back no less.

i dont think so, Tifa might as well have been air compared to Rinoa, the only thing i got from Tifa is the fact she liked cloud and hated Sephiroth, at least you knew where Rinoa was comming from.

and seifer had some intresting pull, but the main party has a lot more if you ask me.
 

JasonKaotic

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I don't think it any of them should have been remade. Square Enix ruined Final Fantasy in my opinion. And the DS remakes changed too much stuff
just my opinion.
 

WilliamRLBaker

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I don't find DS remakes to be remakes they don't really change much they simply put it in a 3d perspective the DS is capable of and then thats about it.

As for a next gen remake of FF6 I do not WANT! they will mess it up, look what they did to Setzer in Kingdom hearts 2....I'd hate to see what the Current pretty boy, metro sexual leather chains and buckles obsessed folks at Square would do to 6...
 

SavingPrincess

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WilliamRLBaker said:
I'd hate to see what the Current pretty boy, metro sexual leather chains and buckles obsessed folks at Square would do to 6...
His name is is Tetsuya Nomura; he was an assistant until Yoshitaka Amano left and became lead character designer for FFVII (yes... you have him to thank for Sephiroth). Hence why if they did a remake of FFVI, I previously demanded in an earlier comment that they bring back Amano as lead character designer. Final Fantasy design had a sense of grace and sophistication before Nomura took over...

Just do a Google image search for Yoshitaka Amano, then a search for "Tetsuya Nomura Art" (include the word "art" or you'll just see a bunch of him in real life), and you can see why I've had a hard time taking any Final Fantasy since VI seriously...
 

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SavingPrincess said:
WilliamRLBaker said:
I'd hate to see what the Current pretty boy, metro sexual leather chains and buckles obsessed folks at Square would do to 6...
His name is is Tetsuya Nomura; he was an assistant until Yoshitaka Amano left and became lead character designer for FFVII (yes... you have him to thank for Sephiroth). Hence why if they did a remake of FFVI, I previously demanded in an earlier comment that they bring back Amano as lead character designer. Final Fantasy design had a sense of grace and sophistication before Nomura took over...

Just do a Google image search for Yoshitaka Amano, then a search for "Tetsuya Nomura Art" (include the word "art" or you'll just see a bunch of him in real life), and you can see why I've had a hard time taking any Final Fantasy since VI seriously...
Tetsuya's Dissidia artwork of Amano's characters shows that he is capable of recreating the characters without cocking them up. He's not that bad, and I love Amano's work, but I'm sure if they did a remake and Nomura was in charge of art, he wouldn't add his own personal spin to it. hell he even used Amano's Sephiroth artwork instead of his OWN for Dissidia.


 

Diablo1099_v1legacy

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Dude What about FFV?
I love Exdeath and the Void.
Ok maybe not the Void seeing as i live there.
The West of lreland REALLY sucks, 50 miles away from everything, Everyone a Farmer, Bad Internet connec-

Sigh....
 

Kukakkau

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I'd rather they just didn't make any remakes really

Only reason I was intrested in the VII remake was because I am unable to finish that game because my PS1 memory cards erase themselves over and over - I never got near the end of disc 2

Although I can understand why everyone demands a remake considering Sqaure Enix DID make that remake trailer a while ago. Which makes me wonder why they are willing to devote employees to work on a trailer promoting a product they won't make, but are unwilling to devote people to make a game with a pre-written script that will sell alot of copies worldwide.
 

WilliamRLBaker

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SavingPrincess said:
WilliamRLBaker said:
I'd hate to see what the Current pretty boy, metro sexual leather chains and buckles obsessed folks at Square would do to 6...
His name is is Tetsuya Nomura; he was an assistant until Yoshitaka Amano left and became lead character designer for FFVII (yes... you have him to thank for Sephiroth). Hence why if they did a remake of FFVI, I previously demanded in an earlier comment that they bring back Amano as lead character designer. Final Fantasy design had a sense of grace and sophistication before Nomura took over...

Just do a Google image search for Yoshitaka Amano, then a search for "Tetsuya Nomura Art" (include the word "art" or you'll just see a bunch of him in real life), and you can see why I've had a hard time taking any Final Fantasy since VI seriously...
yeah I know all this, which is why I brought it up Tetsuya and the other folks at square now would screw the remake up make the characters inane and use lots of leather.