What are some misconceptions about your religion?

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Superhyperactiveman

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Yes... A religion post... I know this means nothing in the face of confrontational asshole atheists, insane fundamentalist Christians, and everything in-between, but come on people. We're all adults here. Let's try to be mature and respectful of each other's beliefs. The whole reason I'm doing this post is because I think if we all knew a little more about each other's religions, we'd be less likely to go crazy at each other. And don't just start going, "Well, here's another flame war waiting to happen..." because all that's going to do is provoke.

So yeah, I just found that people tend to believe a lot of weird shit about each other's religions that isn't necessarily true. As one who has studied the teachings of the Buddha, I personally believe the only way to escape from suffering is through enlightenment. So, enlighten us about your beliefs. What do we think we know that we actually don't? This could actually be fun if people manage to control their tempers.

So, I'm a theistic Buddhist, which basically means I combined Christianity and Buddhism into something custom-tailored for me. So I'll do both.

Buddhism-

We do not worship the Buddha. He specifically said he was not a god. There is an off-shoot of Buddhism that worships him, but they're the exception, not the rule. Buddhism, in fact, does not accept or refute the existence of any god, so it's technically a philosophy, as opposed to a religion.

Buddha is not his name. It is his title. His name is Siddhartha Guatama. Buddha can actually refer to anyone who has achieved enlightenment, it just traditionally refers to the founder of the religion.

Christianity-

We do not take a large chunk of the Bible literally. Unless we're fundamentalist, which most of us aren't, we accept a lot of it, especially the stuff in Genesis and Revelations, as being figurative: a metaphor. So, Creation, Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel... most of us admit that things didn't exactly happen this way.

We do not reject evolution... Let me say that again... WE DO NOT REJECT EVOLUTION!!! Except for, again, the fundamentalists. What we reject is the idea that Humans evolved out of monkies. Because, this implies that humans are not spiritual beings created in the image of God, but that we're a random accident like all the other animals.

We do not believe that animals do not have a soul. Animals have souls. What we believe is that animals do not have IMMORTAL souls. Your pet has a soul... it just disappears when he dies. Any priest, teacher, or other religious figure that told you animals don't have souls was only saying that because, for whatever reason, they didn't think it wise to make the distinction.

I left some out for the sake of any Christians and Buddhists who want to step up. If there's something people generally believe about your religion, that doesn't apply to you, it's probably a misconception. And even though a lot of them hate it when we call it such, atheism is going to be considered a religion here, strictly for the purposes of allowing them equal opportunity to defend themselves.

As a good rule of thumb, if you ever find yourself typing about a religion you don't follow, you're doing it wrong. Only type about your own religious beliefs.
 

AboveUp

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I'm an atheist, I think my belief, or rather the lack thereof makes up the majority of the people on the website.

I'd just like to take the opportunity to say that not every atheist out there is on a path to destroy and bash everyone's religious beliefs.
If you're religious, fine. That's good. Go ahead and believe in what you want. In fact, I'll encourage you to hold onto it if it really matters to you and it makes you feel good.
I personally hate it when atheists out there feel its their duty to destroy other people's religions.

Once again, not saying all of them do.
In fact, the ones that don't probably don't bring up religion at all, so you wouldn't even know if they are atheist unless asked. The problem is just that there are so many atheists going around, especially on the internet, giving the rest of us a bad name.

Also, there's this distinct problem having discussions in a mature manner and religion on the internet for some reason. So I wouldn't be surprised if this would turn into a good old bashing thread any time soon.
 

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I hate when someone finds out I'm Christian, they automatically assume I hate gays. That bugs the crap out of me. Yes, there are a couple of passages in the bible that say negative things about it, but I'm all for homosexuality.
 

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Superhyperactiveman said:
We do not reject evolution... Let me say that again... WE DO NOT REJECT EVOLUTION!!! Except for, again, the fundamentalists. What we reject is the idea that Humans evolved out of monkies. Because, this implies that humans are not spiritual beings created in the image of God, but that we're a random accident like all the other animals.
um.. so, what I get out of this is that you accept evolution, but only the parts you want to accept. It is just like accepting driving laws, but then not fully stopping at a stop sign, or going 5km/h over the speed limit and saying you never break the law. While you arn't totally defeating the purpose of the laws, you are still breaking them by not stopping at the stop sign.
So with evolution, either accept it, or deny it; don't just pick and choose the parts you like. Essentially, by picking and choosing you are saying everything was just randomly created by random genetic mutations over the history of life; most being horrible and ending that specimen's life, but a few chance ones actually improve chances of survival. But then, out of no where, humans appeared, suddenly and perfectly.
Now, if you said that humans evolved from monkeys, with gods guidance in the evolution so that we were created in the image of god, it would make sense that you don't reject evolution. But by saying that humans are an exception to evolution is defeating the purpose of not rejecting it in the first place.
 

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I'm an atheist as well, and I don't knock any one else's religion or even attempt to offend anyone's religion. To each his own, really. I have to say that this thread has been well thought out and you should get a job as a religious studies teacher. Mine was poor and basically taught everything you said that wasn't true.
 

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Something I want to add onto your paragraph on Buddhism and was something a friend told me when I first converted: "See that statue [referring to the stone Buddha that was part of her shrine] that is you, and me, and everyone in the world. You see everyone has the capacity for enlightenment whether or not they knowingly follow the path."


Edit: I do find it weird that you believe in an eternal soul, as one of the beliefs of Buddhism is of Atman, or no soul. Now that means that we believe that there is not a permanent unchanging soul.
 

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I am actually going for the same exact Christian-Buddhist idea that you are here. I just need to study Buddhism more. And I feel kind of the same way on the Bible.. I'm not totally sure if I believe it or not, but I do believe some parts, then again it was written by PEOPLE..

I am Catholic, I do not hate gays at all, I am just like a normal person, I am not a hypocrite like some people make Catholics out to be, and yeahh that's all I can think of.

Anyway I welcome any atheists who don't go around bashing religion(meaning most normal/nice atheists, about 99% of them) to be my friend ^_^
AboveUp I like your picture.
 

Aardvark

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Here's a common misconception about my religion.

That we really give a shit.

Catholics are about the most apathetic people you're likely to come across. You've got two brands, though. The totally apathetic and the plain ordinary pathetic. The pathetic ones still show up to church, still listen to the man in the collar drone on and still give when the collection plate comes around, despite having lost faith about the time they first learned about the non-existence of Santa Claus. The Apathetic spend their Sundays sleeping in, sin their arses off and enjoy every minute of God-given life they have, only putting down Catholic on the census forms because atheism is just too much effort.

This is why all the newer brands of Christianity hate us so much. We're having a much better time, despite technically clinging to an older out-dated belief structure. Also, because we have a Nazi Pope.
 

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Perhaps the biggest misconception about my religion is that it makes its followers amoral.

You can probably guess which one that is.
 

A random person

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I'm an atheist, but I have to say that not all Christians are hate-mongers and the church I have the closest relationship to left the Southern Baptist Convention for that reason.
 

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muckinscavitch said:
Superhyperactiveman said:
We do not reject evolution... Let me say that again... WE DO NOT REJECT EVOLUTION!!! Except for, again, the fundamentalists. What we reject is the idea that Humans evolved out of monkies. Because, this implies that humans are not spiritual beings created in the image of God, but that we're a random accident like all the other animals.
um.. so, what I get out of this is that you accept evolution, but only the parts you want to accept. It is just like accepting driving laws, but then not fully stopping at a stop sign, or going 5km/h over the speed limit and saying you never break the law. While you arn't totally defeating the purpose of the laws, you are still breaking them by not stopping at the stop sign.
So with evolution, either accept it, or deny it; don't just pick and choose the parts you like. Essentially, by picking and choosing you are saying everything was just randomly created by random genetic mutations over the history of life; most being horrible and ending that specimen's life, but a few chance ones actually improve chances of survival. But then, out of no where, humans appeared, suddenly and perfectly.
Now, if you said that humans evolved from monkeys, with gods guidance in the evolution so that we were created in the image of god, it would make sense that you don't reject evolution. But by saying that humans are an exception to evolution is defeating the purpose of not rejecting it in the first place.
I completely agree with you on the evolution idea, although you could have been more considerate when plotting it out. I believe that God evolved us from chimps into his image and that science is a way of explaining God's everyday miracles. I am Catholic, I don't hate gays although I don't believe that homosexuality is right, and I don't believe that we came to be out of nowhere. God created the universe through the Big Bang and evolved us with emotions, which is why we are different from other animals who don't have immortal souls. I don't believe that the world was created in seven days, but in seven metaphorical ages
Thank you to the creator of the thread for not making us seem like haters, but I think that you were a little too soft. Most NORMAL Christians believe a lot of the Bible, just that it's figurative and a set of guidelines, not necessarily rules.
I guess the biggest misconception about Christianity is that we are all haters. Just because we believe that homosexuality is wrong doesn't mean that we can't love gays for who they are truly, confused human beings. After all it says in the Bible that we are to love each other like brothers and sisters no matter who we are, and that God loves the SINNER not the SIN.
Thanks for listening and I welcome any opposing atheist views as long as you are considerate to the open attitude of this thread.
 

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I'm agnostic i.e. I believe there is some higher power, but I don't want to devote my praise to God or Allah etc. Some people confuse this with Atheism.

That being said, I've always been intrigued by Buddihsm (even though it's more a philosophy than religion) and have often caught myself thinking about becoming a budhist. Not in some "Hey I'm a buddihst" thing, It's an internal debate I've been having for the past 3/4 years
 

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DTice69 said:
muckinscavitch said:
Superhyperactiveman said:
We do not reject evolution... Let me say that again... WE DO NOT REJECT EVOLUTION!!! Except for, again, the fundamentalists. What we reject is the idea that Humans evolved out of monkies. Because, this implies that humans are not spiritual beings created in the image of God, but that we're a random accident like all the other animals.
um.. so, what I get out of this is that you accept evolution, but only the parts you want to accept. It is just like accepting driving laws, but then not fully stopping at a stop sign, or going 5km/h over the speed limit and saying you never break the law. While you arn't totally defeating the purpose of the laws, you are still breaking them by not stopping at the stop sign.
So with evolution, either accept it, or deny it; don't just pick and choose the parts you like. Essentially, by picking and choosing you are saying everything was just randomly created by random genetic mutations over the history of life; most being horrible and ending that specimen's life, but a few chance ones actually improve chances of survival. But then, out of no where, humans appeared, suddenly and perfectly.
Now, if you said that humans evolved from monkeys, with gods guidance in the evolution so that we were created in the image of god, it would make sense that you don't reject evolution. But by saying that humans are an exception to evolution is defeating the purpose of not rejecting it in the first place.
I completely agree with you on the evolution idea, although you could have been more considerate when plotting it out. I believe that God evolved us from chimps into his image and that science is a way of explaining God's everyday miracles. I am Catholic, I don't hate gays although I don't believe that homosexuality is right, and I don't believe that we came to be out of nowhere. God created the universe through the Big Bang and evolved us with emotions, which is why we are different from other animals who don't have immortal souls. I don't believe that the world was created in seven days, but in seven metaphorical ages
Thank you to the creator of the thread for not making us seem like haters, but I think that you were a little too soft. Most NORMAL Christians believe a lot of the Bible, just that it's figurative and a set of guidelines, not necessarily rules.
I guess the biggest misconception about Christianity is that we are all haters. Just because we believe that homosexuality is wrong doesn't mean that we can't love gays for who they are truly, confused human beings. After all it says in the Bible that we are to love each other like brothers and sisters no matter who we are, and that God loves the SINNER not the SIN.
Thanks for listening and I welcome any opposing atheist views as long as you are considerate to the open attitude of this thread.
Thank you for posting a religious view that does not ignore science. I completely respect stating that god created/guided the scientific processes of life.
I am not a religious man, nor am I an atheist. I am open to various beliefs and views.
Sorry about not plotting my explanation out very well, I was in a rush.

On another topic, current research into homosexuality has found that, if you were to do brain activity scans of male brains, female brains, and homosexual people's brains of both sexes:

Male Homosexual brain scans resemble female brain scans.
Female Homosexual brain scans resemble male brain scans.

Thus, leading to a current theory that homosexuality is either a physiological change in the human brain, or a change in the development of the brain due to external factors.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7456588.stm
I could not find the original CNN site I read it on.

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone in my post; it was not my intention. My intention, atleast for the latter part, was to discuss scientific research, not to put anyone down in anyway.
 

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Flamebait, Seriously Anything about religon is an Instant Flamewar.

On Topic: I'm an Atheist, And some people assert that we are all assholes who want to "Kill God" or something, We are just people who don't believe in your god.
 

leviathanmisha

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The fact that people think that I am a closed mind individual cause I refuse to believe in a god of someone elses choosing. Yes I am atheist, but I am very respecting of other religions, just cause I'm not an ass.
 

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Monkeyman8 said:
That I have one. Atheism is not a religion but lack of there of. that and all the religious cunts calling me immoral, and all this other shit because I don't follow their dogma.
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nvm, word comprehension.
 

The Shade

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Probably the biggest misconception for my religion is that pirates, the original Pastafarians, were nasty cut-throats. This is, of course, false. They were kind and fun-loving swashbucklers.

May His noodly appendage open many doors for you.
RAmen.

P.S. Don't forget! This Saturday is International Talk Like a Pirate Day! So dig out your eyepatch, and brush up on your shanties!