What benefits do you get from being Vegetarian?

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Amphoteric

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I'm a vegetarian because I don't want to be indirectly responsible for the suffering of other living things.

I don't have a problem with anyone who does eat meat, the idea of it just disgusting to me.
 

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lRookiel said:
Hey there, I'm the guy you want to talk to then, I'm 18 years old and have been vegetarian ALL MY LIFE, and I've never tried any form of meat yet I'm perfectly healthy.

If your wanting to know what I eat instead to get my protein, look no further!

http://www.quorn.co.uk/Home/

Oh and also some nuts (Pistachio's.. nom nom nom)

If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )

And if you want to know the benefits, well, I get to live knowing I've chosen against horrible slaughter because there is no longer need for it, and also I'm still a healthy human being.

Plus Quorn tastes great!
If you don't eat meat, why would you want to eat meat substitutes? I get that you need to eat more eggs and nuts to compensate for the lack of protein, but isn't eating tofu/Quorn basically fooling yourself?

"Look at me, I am a humanoid man who can survive without eating meat, because I find animal slaughter appaling! We do not need meat to survive at all! *noms on fake meat*"

Just seems like masturbation without the added bonus of an orgasm.
Are lesbians who use strap-ons fooling themselves?
 

thethingthatlurks

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Blablahb said:
thethingthatlurks said:
(or alternatively, vitamin supplements) are needed if one chooses to forgo eggs and dairy products as well.
Do you know what those supplements are prepared from? One ingredient is slaughter waste, from which they'll extract the necessary nutrients and concentrate them. A rather environmentally unfriendly process by the way as it requires a lot of burning and chemicals, and uses up a lot more energy than you use picking up a bit of meat, putting it in your mouth and chewing on it.
thethingthatlurks said:
-Oh yeah, something about not breeding something for the expressed purpose of then killing it only to feast on its flesh.
False argument. Any animal ever born is going to die anyway. Why not make it mean something? Besides, you neglect to note to all happiness ever experienced by farm animals is purely to the credit of keeping them for meat (milking cows and chickens aside). And that's a lot, considering how uncomplicated they are. Stable, food, maybe one or two other animals, and they're happy as can be.

Most farm animals even specifically evolved around humans and wouldn't be able to survive on their own. Sheep are nothing like wild sheep like Muflons, and only the blind wouldn't be able to tell a pig and a wild boar apart, the first being meaty and juicy, the latter being more like a miniature tank with tusks and thick skin.
1) I'm a chemist, and I actually know a few things about where base compounds come from. It's not cheaper to extract them actually. Think of it this way: you have a mixture of stuff, and you want a very specific compound, say cyancobalamin (produced by bacteria on meat). Filtering a liter solution to extract less than a microgram of usable compound is not profitable in the slightest. It is generally easier (and usually cheaper) to either synthesize the compounds directly, or to produce them using a proxy via fermentation as opposed to getting them from some horrid mixture of a natural source. In a few cases like calcium or magnesium supplements, their respective oxides (or oxalates, citrates, some salt) can be used. Sorry, that bit is wrong. Remember, we ain't talking gelatin here...

2) Ok...so I breed something only to kill it later on, but it's ok because the animal would have died anyway? Cool, mind if I come over and kill you then? After all, your life was finite in the first place. Really stupid point, not to mention it robs the animals (in most cases) of the closest thing to purpose they have, breeding.

3) No, farm animals did not evolve. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the process of evolution. We "created" modern farm animals. It's artificial selection. You're right, most farm animals would not be able to live in the wild, and that's because we MADE them that way.
 

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I'm no a Veg myself(hmmm I love meat) but I know several. Some are healthier then me and some are a lot less healthy. About the only thing they seem to do better then me is produce room clearing gas. Seriously all those vegetables produce the most horrendous farts.

I am luck that my veggie friends are not of the smug variety. We actually have a lot in common food wise as I am a non-pork eater. It surprises me how much food has pig by product thrown into it for really no reason.

Anyways I think what people eat is there own business as long as its not other people.
 
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lRookiel said:
Hey there, I'm the guy you want to talk to then, I'm 18 years old and have been vegetarian ALL MY LIFE, and I've never tried any form of meat yet I'm perfectly healthy.

If your wanting to know what I eat instead to get my protein, look no further!

http://www.quorn.co.uk/Home/

Oh and also some nuts (Pistachio's.. nom nom nom)

If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )

And if you want to know the benefits, well, I get to live knowing I've chosen against horrible slaughter because there is no longer need for it, and also I'm still a healthy human being.

Plus Quorn tastes great!
If you're a middle class Westerner. Otherwise, you're screwed. But hey, at least a chicken won't suffer half a second of pain! Sorry, but to me this statement is as naive as it gets.

OT: I assume it's because they disagree with the farming/ domestication of animals. I can see where they're coming from even if I feel it's not really fully-considered, and if some of them are extremely judgmental.
 

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I wouldn't survive without my daily dose of protein extracted from a fellow creature of the earth. I just wouldn't. I have a certain bias towards disliking vegans because of Seventh Day Adventists though. I studied in one of their schools and slowly developed an unhealthy hatred regarding most of their habits. Anyway, I feel sorry for the animals getting slaughtered, but that does not kill (haha) my apetite.
 

feauxx

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vegetarians smell better, sweat from meat eaters stinks. no rotting meat in the stomach for days/weeks. no heart attacks at a young or basically any age. no chemical waste in your food: animals get to eat food with chemicals in them, they get sedated when slaughtered, lots of meat you eat comes from sick, disabled and dying animals getting all kinds of drugs.

a low fat, zero cholesterol vegetarian diet has a high chance of preventing cancer, high blood pressure, diabetes, strokes, osteoporosis, heart attacks, chrons disease, allergies, impotence and that's not even all, i suggest you look into this more yourself if you are interested. Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn has done extensive reseach on this.
 

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As a vegan, I can say that the greatest benefit by far is a smug sense of superiority.

I think there are health benefits and all that to not consuming animal products, but most vegans/vegetarians don't do it for themselves but out of compassion for the animals. Your question is a bit like asking, "What is the benefit of not being a racist?" It's not about what's beneficial to you, it's about what's ethical.

The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
If you're a middle class Westerner. Otherwise, you're screwed. But hey, at least a chicken won't suffer half a second of pain! Sorry, but to me this statement is as naive as it gets.
Most agricultural scientists would agree that the farming and domestication of animals leads to food shortages in poorer countries. Considering it takes something like forty pounds of plant material to make a pound of meat, it's not too weird to argue that the reliance on flesh as food is not only unnecessary, but actually counter-productive.
 

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I've honestly met more preachy meat-eaters than preachy vegetarians, though that could just be because I've been a vegetarian all my life so it was never a choice I had to make.

If I mention I'm a vegetarian, people often get this really weird, defensive look in their eyes and sometimes they'll start telling me that there's nothing wrong with eating meat. If they're really jerks, they'll start saying "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three!" I guess they must have had a lot of run-ins with preachy vegetarians and are getting preemptively defensive.

On topic, I just answered the question of why I personally am a vegetarian last night. Let me find my post and quote it.

"I was born and raised vegetarian. I was always free to start eating meat if I wanted to, but I was never interested. Partly for moral reasons (I don't feel personally capable of killing an animal, so I feel it would be hypocritical of me to eat an animal that someone else had killed), partly because I've never seen meat as "food," and partly out of sheer laziness. I don't care enough about it to learn how to cook it and to go through the long, uncomfortable process of getting my body used to digesting it."

Now let me add to it.

Yes, a vegetarian diet CAN be healthier than a meat-eating diet. You just need to be sure you're getting enough protein, iron, calcium, omega 3s, vitamin B12, and vitamin D, all of which you can get from non-meat sources. (I think that's everything; I just woke up and my brain is still fuzzy.) You can also get the same effect as a meat-eater by just reducing your consumption of unhealthy fat and eating white meat and fish more often than red meat. Different strokes.

For those people who say that humans were not made to be vegetarians, humans were also not made to take medicine. It's possible to remove meat from our diets by studying what it is that we get out of meat and then replacing it with other things without any negative side-effects. (Again, I'm NOT saying that this is what everyone should do. It's just an argument against people who say that being a vegetarian is unnatural.)

The other benefits have already been mentioned:
1. It's better for the environment. Yes it's true that some land is only suited to growing grass, but most cows in America are fed on corn, not grass.
2. It's much cheaper.

As for the drawbacks:
1. People who seem to think that I don't eat meat just so I can think I'm better than them, when I never said a thing about it.
2. It can be hard to find vegetarian options in restaurants, but I can always make do by either asking for a menu item without meat or requesting a grilled cheese sandwich or something.

Let me also add that I don't think eating meat is objectively wrong. Just wrong for me, because of the issues I mentioned about feeling personally unable to kill an animal. I also dislike the way animals are raised, and I'm much more supportive of small farms and hunting as far as obtaining meat goes, because the animal gets to have a fairly normal, happy life before being killed. Unfortunately those aren't very efficient ways to produce meat with the world in the state it's in, so I just don't eat meat at all.

(I do have a few issues with vegans, mainly the fact that they don't eat honey. Beekeepers and bees have a symbiotic relationship. The bees are just allowed to do what they would do normally, only they're provided with everything they need. They aren't being harmed like farm animals at all. But that's not important to the topic.)
 

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Appleshampoo said:
Just to make it clear I'm not interested in a meat vs no meat forum war, I just want to know what you feel are the benefits of not eating meat, or even being a Vegan.

Personally I'm one of those horrible horrible people that have trouble understanding something I don't believe in, and thus in an attempt to expand my mind I'm looking for a learning experience here!

I know most science people will tell you to eat meat because it's good for the body, so what can vegetarians do to also get this same health benefit that meat apparently gives?

Expand my mind people, expand away!
Its actually the opposite. Eating meat (especially in the quantities most developed countries do) is bad for you. Its better to eat vegetarian assuming you are receiving all the nutrients (vitamins and minerals) your body requires. It takes a bit more planning to do that if you are a vegan as apposed to vegetarian which can just eat some eggs and cheese and be fine for the most part.

However most vegetarians and especially vegans do it for moral reasons rather than anything objective.
 

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lRookiel said:
Hey there, I'm the guy you want to talk to then, I'm 18 years old and have been vegetarian ALL MY LIFE, and I've never tried any form of meat yet I'm perfectly healthy.

If your wanting to know what I eat instead to get my protein, look no further!

http://www.quorn.co.uk/Home/

Oh and also some nuts (Pistachio's.. nom nom nom)

If your wanting to know why I'm a veggie, the reason is because I'm massively against animal slaughter, It's cruel and unjust (Especially Halal and Kosher D:< )

And if you want to know the benefits, well, I get to live knowing I've chosen against horrible slaughter because there is no longer need for it, and also I'm still a healthy human being.

Plus Quorn tastes great!
If the human race became vegetarians overnight, more animals would die than if we farmed them.


On topic, there are no real benefits. Humans are omnivores, so all that's really happening is you're replacing one food with another, and usually a less natural one. The only logical standpoint would be if the person didn't like the taste of meat.



feauxx said:
no chemical waste in your food
Had to laugh at that. Any successful plant farming operation dumps tonnes of pesticides, growth formulae and often hormones/steroids onto the plants.
 

AndyFromMonday

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We're omnivores. The only healthy diet for us is a balanced one. If you want to go to the extremes then that's your choice.