What Bethesda Games has been up to !!

[mALX]

I think a Fallout MMORPG would be kinda lame. It would remove the choice from the game and turn it into a pointless grindfest.

From what I read they are working hard to keep the choice in the MMO (Interplay).

 

[mALX]

I hate to be mean on the NMA people, but Jesus.

Nothing that stays the same survives. And nothing that doesn't appeal to the current crowd and gains more fans (even if it is to play the old games) survives. Fallout won't survive on the old way, so someone tried to do it another way. They didn't entirely miss the mark, and they didn't entirely hit it square-on.

But FFS, wishing that it would have just been left alone at Fallout 2? Fuck you guys, I want the series to evolve and people try to make a better Fallout experience. No more 2-D isometric view with shitty turn-based combat (they could have made it so much better, but failed). Those days are gone. And none of the independent Polish/German/US development of the old system is going to re-invent Fallout to the popularity that it gets as we try more advanced tech and ideas.

Ok, I am going to try and set up a link to that vid:



Fallout 3 as done by Interplay [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFmZRM7fqWs]

 

[EnglishMuffin]

Interplay doesn't have the graphics that bethsoft does? Have you played Fallout 3? Everything is green tint and actually looks worse than TES:4. I hope bethslop doesn't get the rights. They don't need to fuck up another game. They need to stick to just fucking up their own franchise(TES series).

The people working at interplay right now were made the original fallout games. Since they do have some actual skill, unlike the untalented wankers at Bethslop, I really hope it stays in their hands.

Spoken like a true No Mutant Allowed fag.

My experience with Fallout 3 was not in green tint. When I left the vault, everything was prominently brown. The only time I actually encountered a lot of green was Oasis.

What green tint do you refer to? The Pip Boy? You can change the color of your Pip Boy to either green or gold (green or blue on the PS3). Or are you just making up shit based on what other people (or bad reviewers) have told you?

Aside from the fact that Bethesda writes shitty dialogue (which actually improved in Fallout 3) and can't seem to budget to get a voice acting cast of dozens so that not all NPCs sound alike, they do a decent job. And if they ever get WORSE at it, then they'll get less money, sell the franchise, and we'll get another company NOT Interplay to make their version of it (which will not be 2-D, 16-bit, isometric with a tendency to put us to sleep with broken turn-based combat of the old Fallouts).

Spoken like someone who has bethesda's dick shoved nicely up their ass.

If you ever fucking played the game the two colors were brown and green tint on fucking everything. And don't even try to make excuses for a game with shitty dialogue, voice acting, storyline, and combat. Oh not to mention fucking awful animations and graphics. They said they would fix the animations and have better graphics after TES:4 but no, its the same fucking thing. No wait, actually the graphics are a bit worse. Oh and not to mention the god awful AI. Remember looking for the fucking declaration of independence? Yeah fuck Fallout 3.

You nailed it on the head too with that last part. I really want 10 year old game with 10 year old graphics and gameplay. Well, actually I don't mind turn based, as long as it isn't slow as fuck and enjoyable to watch.

I could take a shit in a paper bag and write "Fallout 3" on it and you wouldn't know the difference from that piece of shit game that bethsoft released. No wait, the shit the bag would at least have the brand new smell'o'vision so you would probably enjoy it even more.

Some people enjoy shitty, rushed, sloppily put together games, I don't understand it, but obviously you do. And enjoy it too.

 

[Svenparty]

Lol, you obviously haven't walked around talking to people. I play a Khajiit, and there is a lot of prejudice against Khajiit in Cyrodiil

Don't mind them...it was a unenlightened age when Furries couldnt walk the steets for fear of being killed

Lol is it Me or do Bethesda put discrimination in all their games?(Not in a bad way just showing it)

Elder Scrolls has Khajit
Fallout 3 has Ghouls (Who are basically treated like slaves)

 

[mALX]

Lol, you obviously haven't walked around talking to people. I play a Khajiit, and there is a lot of prejudice against Khajiit in Cyrodiil

Don't mind them...it was a unenlightened age when Furries couldnt walk the steets for fear of being killed

Lol is it Me or do Bethesda put discrimination in all their games?(Not in a bad way just showing it)

Elder Scrolls has Khajit
Fallout 3 has Ghouls (Who are basically treated like slaves)

In Oblivion, every race except Imperials gets it. There is one couple where a Dunmer married something else, and every one in town (Anvil I think) was talking like dirt about the wife, saying how they couldn't see how he could do that, he'd be better off marrying his horse; and the Argonians are tortured in Leyawiin by the Countess and Count in a secret torture chamber. There is one race that eats horses, can't remember if it's Dunmer or Bosmer (sorry if spelled wrong).

Oh, and have you ever followed any of the secret love affairs? They are hilareous, Oakenhull in Anvil is cheating on his wife with the woman that owns the hotel on the Dock area of Anvil. He tells his wife he is out to sea for long stretches, but he is always in there with that woman. That woman says she only likes Seamen, but she is having an affair with that little short guy that is crazy. Oakenhull's wife is having an affair with the stable boy in Anvil. If you talk to her about how she stands it with her man out to sea for such long stretches, she will say she is "comforted by the Nine" (before the Knights of the Nine DLC I wasn't sure what she meant! (lol). The writers slipped a lot of subtle humor into Oblivion, they made it more visible and "in your face" in Fallout 3. I think the humor was more aimed toward the "Adult" in Oblivion. There are a whole bunch more examples, (of both the prejudice and the humor). I think it really adds to the game to find some of these subtle things they have slipped in.

Really enjoyed your comment!

 

[mALX]

Interplay doesn't have the graphics that bethsoft does? Have you played Fallout 3? Everything is green tint and actually looks worse than TES:4. I hope bethslop doesn't get the rights. They don't need to fuck up another game. They need to stick to just fucking up their own franchise(TES series).

The people working at interplay right now were made the original fallout games. Since they do have some actual skill, unlike the untalented wankers at Bethslop, I really hope it stays in their hands.

Spoken like a true No Mutant Allowed fag.

My experience with Fallout 3 was not in green tint. When I left the vault, everything was prominently brown. The only time I actually encountered a lot of green was Oasis.

What green tint do you refer to? The Pip Boy? You can change the color of your Pip Boy to either green or gold (green or blue on the PS3). Or are you just making up shit based on what other people (or bad reviewers) have told you?

Aside from the fact that Bethesda writes shitty dialogue (which actually improved in Fallout 3) and can't seem to budget to get a voice acting cast of dozens so that not all NPCs sound alike, they do a decent job. And if they ever get WORSE at it, then they'll get less money, sell the franchise, and we'll get another company NOT Interplay to make their version of it (which will not be 2-D, 16-bit, isometric with a tendency to put us to sleep with broken turn-based combat of the old Fallouts).

Spoken like someone who has bethesda's dick shoved nicely up their ass.

If you ever fucking played the game the two colors were brown and green tint on fucking everything. And don't even try to make excuses for a game with shitty dialogue, voice acting, storyline, and combat. Oh not to mention fucking awful animations and graphics. They said they would fix the animations and have better graphics after TES:4 but no, its the same fucking thing. No wait, actually the graphics are a bit worse. Oh and not to mention the god awful AI. Remember looking for the fucking declaration of independence? Yeah fuck Fallout 3.

You nailed it on the head too with that last part. I really want 10 year old game with 10 year old graphics and gameplay. Well, actually I don't mind turn based, as long as it isn't slow as fuck and enjoyable to watch.

I could take a shit in a paper bag and write "Fallout 3" on it and you wouldn't know the difference from that piece of shit game that bethsoft released. No wait, the shit the bag would at least have the brand new smell'o'vision so you would probably enjoy it even more.

Some people enjoy shitty, rushed, sloppily put together games, I don't understand it, but obviously you do. And enjoy it too.

It is supposed to be colorless, it is after nuclear fallout (hence the name). But if you look beyond the color you can see the exquisite detail they have put into the graphics in that colorless background. Also, it is no more colorless than the other Fallout games, they are all after the nuking. They just had light tan colored sand everywhere on the old Fallout games. Fallout 3 took 5 years to make, Interplay made 4 fallout series games in four years. That was rushed. There was no detail in their game, but the storyline ROCKED, which is why people loved it. Just like The Elder Scrolls, the story line is what grabbed the fans way back when Bethesda was making games with the same low graphics as Interplay was in the first Fallout games. I love the Bethesda games. You may prefer shooters or multiplayers, which may be why you don't care as much for Bethesda games, but there is no need to get hostile over it.

 

[Svenparty]

Really enjoyed your comment!

Yours too and thanks for the insight on Oblivion...... Come to think of it I played as a posh Dunmer and everyone called Me Snowman....I would still be playing if the main quest didn't rub Me the wrong way

Are the expansion bonuses only playable after you complete the main quest? (e.g Shivering Isles)

 

[seamusotorain]

*Sigh*

I'll miss the isolation of the Wasteland, to be honest. I felt that one of the main game mechanics was that you were on your own in a hostile enviroment, an effect that will be quickly lost if it becomes the new World of Warcraft. It'd be fun, but Fallout would lose a certain something...

 

[mALX]

Really enjoyed your comment!

Yours too and thanks for the insight on Oblivion...... Come to think of it I played as a posh Dunmer and everyone called Me Snowman....I would still be playing if the main quest didn't rub Me the wrong way

Are the expansion bonuses only playable after you complete the main quest? (e.g Shivering Isles)

No, you can get them at any time. The only thing that depressed me about the main questline in Oblivion was when it was over. I love the Oblivion gates, and hate losing them when you close out the main quest. I drag it out till the gates quit spawning and get every possible gate before finishing the main questline.

Now Fallout 3 main questline was depressing, so I did everything possible in that game before even starting the main questline. (found every site: Primary and secondary; got all the random encounters possible, did all the side quests, misc. quests, etc.). When I did everything possible I did the main questline. I loved the game, but didn't care much for the main questline; it was more than a little over scripted - but it had three of the absolute best scenes I've ever experienced in any video game ever in it! Played on the 360, the controller was jumping out of my hands, it was Awesome! (those three scenes).

 

[mALX]

*Sigh*

I'll miss the isolation of the Wasteland, to be honest. I felt that one of the main game mechanics was that you were on your own in a hostile enviroment, an effect that will be quickly lost if it becomes the new World of Warcraft. It'd be fun, but Fallout would lose a certain something...

I know, I'm torn though. I think it will be Awesome, but I am really scared it will dilute the experience for me if they never do another single player Fallout. If they sell the single player and multi-player games sepertately I'll be happy; that way I can buy them both and when I tire of the multi-player, I will always have my single player fun.

 

[seamusotorain]

I know, I'm torn though. I think it will be Awesome, but I am really scared it will dilute the experience for me if they never do another single player Fallout. If they sell the single player and multi-player games sepertately I'll be happy; that way I can buy them both and when I tire of the multi-player, I will always have my single player fun.

That'd work, but people would complain about having to buy two versions of the same game. Maybe package them together special-edition style for a fiver extra? Oh, and have first person MMO's ever worked? How will the VATS system translate to an MMO?

 

[mALX]

I know, I'm torn though. I think it will be Awesome, but I am really scared it will dilute the experience for me if they never do another single player Fallout. If they sell the single player and multi-player games sepertately I'll be happy; that way I can buy them both and when I tire of the multi-player, I will always have my single player fun.

That'd work, but people would complain about having to buy two versions of the same game. Maybe package them together special-edition style for a fiver extra? Oh, and have first person MMO's ever worked? How will the VATS system translate to an MMO?

They are working at the VATS, it will have to be modified, and they (Interplay) was talking about doing the VATS the way it was in an earlier version of the game for the Online version. I think your idea is AWESOME of packaging the single player with the online on a seperate disk!!! I would be willing to pay more for the set! Of course, if Interplay does it, it will be sold seperately anyway. Bethesda Soft has already started the planning for Fallout 4, but they won't know till the quarterly report for Interplay is filed whether Interplay was able to come up with the financing or not. I checked Interplay on the NASDAQ yesterday, and in the last 3 days they got a huge windfall of money, not sure from where. Last June or July the guy that owned Atari bought 2,000,000 in Interplay stock too, plus some angry original Fallout players have been holding drives to get the money up to give to Interplay. They may come up with the financing after all, but to me Jason Anderson leaving last week was a sign that they won't.

 

[EnglishMuffin]

It is supposed to be colorless, it is after nuclear fallout (hence the name). But if you look beyond the color you can see the exquisite detail they have put into the graphics in that colorless background. Also, it is no more colorless than the other Fallout games, they are all after the nuking. They just had light tan colored sand everywhere on the old Fallout games. Fallout 3 took 5 years to make, Interplay made 4 fallout series games in four years. That was rushed. There was no detail in their game, but the storyline ROCKED, which is why people loved it. Just like The Elder Scrolls, the story line is what grabbed the fans way back when Bethesda was making games with the same low graphics as Interplay was in the first Fallout games. I love the Bethesda games. You may prefer shooters or multiplayers, which may be why you don't care as much for Bethesda games, but there is no need to get hostile over it.

It's supposed to be colorless? What??? It took 5 years to make yet looks worse and plays exactly the same as Oblivion. NO IMPROVEMENTS! I love RPG's but I love GOOD games more. The oblivion main storyline was average. It wasn't good, wasn't bad, just average. However the Fallout 3 main storyline was complete and utter shit. The only thing Fallout 3 has for it is wandering around. That is really what you want in a game? A wandering simulator? If you are retarded then you love games like fallout 3 where everything is bad to mediocre. Stupidity is why Bethesda is still in business and it pisses me off.

 

[mALX]

It's supposed to be colorless? What??? It took 5 years to make yet looks worse and plays exactly the same as Oblivion. NO IMPROVEMENTS! I love RPG's but I love GOOD games more. The oblivion main storyline was average. It wasn't good, wasn't bad, just average. However the Fallout 3 main storyline was complete and utter shit. The only thing Fallout 3 has for it is wandering around. That is really what you want in a game? A wandering simulator? If you are retarded then you love games like fallout 3 where everything is bad to mediocre. Stupidity is why Bethesda is still in business and it pisses me off.

I will agree with you on the Main questline, I thought it was way over-scripted and not interesting. The quests were not as well done as the Oblivion quests. I did get a huge enjoyment out of exploring the massive map though; and I don't agree that liking that would make me "retarded."

I like adventuring, treasure hunting, setting my own rules, finding my own way, and experimenting with limits. I don't like over-scripting but do love exploring.

I do love Bethesda games because they are anal about details, meaning there is so much more to find than the average game, and because they inject humor in their games. There are hidden jokes everywhere in their games.

I am not asking you to like it, everyone has their own opinions. Just don't care for the hostility toward someone just because they do like it. Individuality is a good thing, and I would never think of attacking you for not thinking the way I do.

If you actually think about it, if there was a nuclear devastation, it's doubtful the world would still be a colorful place. The drabness of the Fallout Franchise is a realism; but they managed to add extraordinary detail into that drabness.

 

[Sporenut]

Well, Bethesda has made 2 of my favorite games (Oblivion and Fallout 3) and I see an online Fallout 3 as possible but I have a few questions. 1. Will everyone have to be a city dweller sort of person or can you be a sort of Raider person. 2. Will there be opposing factions. 3. Will it be a sort of WoW feel?

 

[Acaroid]

I think they're going to make an rpg about a biker gang dude who goes on one too many murders and gets arrested. He drops the soap in jail and escapes into a life of gay hookers and flowers. His enemy is a hooker who cheated him and he must write him an apology letter and win the game!

You know it would be the game of the year because of its awsome originality and bold attempt of bringing gay rights into view... well it would when Yahtzee gives it the best review ever...

 

[mALX]

Well, Bethesda has made 2 of my favorite games (Oblivion and Fallout 3) and I see an online Fallout 3 as possible but I have a few questions. 1. Will everyone have to be a city dweller sort of person or can you be a sort of Raider person. 2. Will there be opposing factions. 3. Will it be a sort of WoW feel?

I thought opposing factions would make it really interesting if they did an online game for either Oblivion or Fallout 3. Like in Oblivion you could be a Mythic Dawn or Necromancer, or Mage - or you could be with the Blades, or Fighter's Guild, etc.

 

[mALX]

Interplay has been touring Europe presenting (I am assuming a vid of their projected Fallout MMO) to prospective investors trying to drum up 75 million dollars. They have till the end of March before they have to file, proving they have come up with 30 million.
Will they make it in time?

 

[the Revenator]

mabe its The Elder Scrolls V

 

[KenzS]

I hope it's not grind-tastic as WoW