What can Xbox one do for me?

[piinyouri]

I love how someone asking a question has turned into a real shit storm...

... then again, I only clicked on the thread in case of the off chance no one mentioned the word "TV" this far down...

... please continue

Yeah, the demographic here can sometimes be akin to piranhas in a feeding frenzy.

OP has an XBL avatar and likes the Xbox One....therefore they are a paid Microsoft employee/unofficial spokesperson?

That's similar to the line of thinking paranoids have.

I'm assuming you're referring to UnnDunn, as OP doesn't have an avatar and was asking for opinions on ThaBone.

... If people actually went and actually looked at his previous posts, they'd see that he is actively defending the PS4 and Xbox One. It's my guess that he's probably just relatively well versed in the new gen consoles and is spreading his knowledge.

Spoiler: Conspiracy Time

OR he is a representative for the secret organization SonySoft!!! A company that pretends to be the rival corporations Microsoft and Sony is the public eye, but in actuality are working in secret towards the same goal... total world domination...

*dons tinfoil hat*

YOU'LL NEVER GET ME, I'M A PC GAMER!!!

Whoop! My bad, got my threads mixed up there. I should probably be in bed by now but f that s.

Use logic and calm reasoning? WHAT EVER FOR?!
We can haphazardly slap two and two seemingly related things together and just go with that!
Also he joined in 06. I think that's the earliest I've ever seen a 'member since' date be.
That's probably totally unrelated, I just found it interesting. : D

 

[Callate]

Some of these things sound like they would mostly be great if your XBox One was something you carried around with you like a laptop, or if you could be 100% certain that large numbers of your friends were going to have the same system. The former isn't the case, and the latter sounds as much like a pyramid scheme as a "feature".

The "game sharing" thing would be fantastic if it was like what Blizzard and Westwood did with Warcraft 2 and Command & Conquer a decade and change ago- you can spawn four multi-player only versions off a single disk, or I'll play with the "Brotherhood of Nod" disk while you play with the "GDI" disk. Unfortunately, that's not the case- it's still down to one person using at a time, within a confined list of users who all have to fit into a specific list of requirements, and all contingent on pressing a Blu-Ray disk worth of data through both the company's servers and your own much-abused broadband connection.

The amount of hassle involved makes the sharing ability seem more like a glorified demo- as much as to say, more free advertising before you get fed up with the restrictions and either pay up for your own copy or give up all together.

Microsoft has simply put too many "ifs" into what are supposed to be simple and straightforward transactions. If Microsoft lets you, and if the company publishing the game decides to enable it, and if your "friend" has bought their system at least a month ago, and if their first thought was to make sure they were on the lists of all their friends, and if your friend list isn't already full, and if the servers aren't down, and if the network isn't congested on either end...

There's a reason Sony's "how to share games" burn was so effective, and it shows little signs of going away.

 

[CollinxChu]

As long as Microsoft is in business, Windows Azure will never be shut down.

Herein lies the problem. Assuming we don't all just off ourselves one day before Microsoft goes bankrupt over something some day, Microsoft WILL shut down. Maybe not for many years, but at the very least, eventually. And then your 'digital' sales are useless, as the server you get them and play them on are gone.

 

[Weaver]

I love how someone asking a question has turned into a real shit storm...

... then again, I only clicked on the thread in case of the off chance no one mentioned the word "TV" this far down...

... please continue

Yeah, the demographic here can sometimes be akin to piranhas in a feeding frenzy.

OP has an XBL avatar and likes the Xbox One....therefore they are a paid Microsoft employee/unofficial spokesperson?

That's similar to the line of thinking paranoids have.

It's kind of funny because I know a few people who work in Redmond at MS and absolutely despise the XBone. They've all stated to me they'll continue PC gaming and get a PS4.

 

[The White Hunter]

Microsoft may be many things, but they're not reliable. Maybe others are even more unreliable *cough*sony*cough*PSNoutage*cough*, but the others at least try to minimize the impact their inevitable incompetence will have this time around...

Hey at least when the PSN went down you could play your games in single player.

What happens when the xbox one servers die and you cant phone home? And trust me: they will die. Somebody somewhere will see the opportunity to bring irritation to millions and sieze it.

 

[The White Hunter]

I love how someone asking a question has turned into a real shit storm...

... then again, I only clicked on the thread in case of the off chance no one mentioned the word "TV" this far down...

... please continue

Yeah, the demographic here can sometimes be akin to piranhas in a feeding frenzy.

OP has an XBL avatar and likes the Xbox One....therefore they are a paid Microsoft employee/unofficial spokesperson?

That's similar to the line of thinking paranoids have.

I'm assuming you're referring to UnnDunn, as OP doesn't have an avatar and was asking for opinions on ThaBone.

... If people actually went and actually looked at his previous posts, they'd see that he seems pretty neutral on the PS4 and Xbox One. It's my guess that he's probably just relatively well versed in the new gen consoles and is spreading his knowledge.

Spoiler: Conspiracy Time

OR he is a representative for the secret organization SonySoft!!! A company that pretends to be the rival corporations Microsoft and Sony in the public's eye, but in actuality are working in secret towards the same goal... total world domination...

*dons tinfoil hat*

YOU'LL NEVER GET ME, I'M A PC GAMER!!!

I keep telling you people that you don't need a tin foil hat! You need some kind of large copper faraday cage to stop them reading your thoughts!

 

[UnnDunn]

I'm assuming you're referring to UnnDunn, as OP doesn't have an avatar and was asking for opinions on ThaBone.

... If people actually went and actually looked at his previous posts, they'd see that he seems pretty neutral on the PS4 and Xbox One. It's my guess that he's probably just relatively well versed in the new gen consoles and is spreading his knowledge.

Spoiler: Conspiracy Time

OR he is a representative for the secret organization SonySoft!!! A company that pretends to be the rival corporations Microsoft and Sony in the public's eye, but in actuality are working in secret towards the same goal... total world domination...

*dons tinfoil hat*

YOU'LL NEVER GET ME, I'M A PC GAMER!!!

Thank you.

OP asked what benefits Xbox One provides. I answered.

 

[Glongpre]

The xbone is a nice money sink. Because we all know everyone has too much of that stuff, it makes life too easy.

 

[Whoracle]

Microsoft may be many things, but they're not reliable. Maybe others are even more unreliable *cough*sony*cough*PSNoutage*cough*, but the others at least try to minimize the impact their inevitable incompetence will have this time around...

Hey at least when the PSN went down you could play your games in single player.[...]

Which is exactly what I was saying

 

[The White Hunter]

Microsoft may be many things, but they're not reliable. Maybe others are even more unreliable *cough*sony*cough*PSNoutage*cough*, but the others at least try to minimize the impact their inevitable incompetence will have this time around...

Hey at least when the PSN went down you could play your games in single player.[...]

Which is exactly what I was saying

Ah, was unsure if thats what you were getting at or it was just a swift jab at the PSN. Which has otherwise been pretty much fine in my experience.

Hasn't Xbox Live been hacked 3 or 4 times now?

 

[The White Hunter]

Hasn't Xbox Live been hacked 3 or 4 times now?

If it has, then I, as a customer with payment information saved on their system, have not been informed. Which is illegal.

I remember at least 2 occurences of it being down due to external attacks for sme period of time, but those were a while ago.

And Microsoft... do something illegal?... I wonder why they'd possibly do something like that...

Actually idk if they ever break US laws (probably) but in the EU they break all kinds of laws and just get fines for it.

 

[UnnDunn]

Ah, was unsure if thats what you were getting at or it was just a swift jab at the PSN. Which has otherwise been pretty much fine in my experience.

Hasn't Xbox Live been hacked 3 or 4 times now?

No. It hasn't. It has been DDoS'd, it has gone down due to bugs, and for a while there were a spate of socially-engineered account thefts, but it was never hacked.

 

[Whoracle]

Ah, was unsure if thats what you were getting at or it was just a swift jab at the PSN. Which has otherwise been pretty much fine in my experience.

OK, in that case, let me rephrase that:
No matter what you do or who you are, every IT system has downtime. The more complex it gets, the more downtime it'll have. That's universsal.

The only thing you can do about it is to rely as little as possible on such systems, something which Sony actually did, surprisingly.
Microsoft (and all those touting into the CLOUD!!!11 horn, really), do the exact opposite of that. I'll spare you the lengthy discourse on WHY it is that way, because everyone with a passing familiarity with IT systems knows it already, at least on a basic level.

If need be, I'll elaborate later.

 

[The White Hunter]

Ah, was unsure if thats what you were getting at or it was just a swift jab at the PSN. Which has otherwise been pretty much fine in my experience.

OK, in that case, let me rephrase that:
No matter what you do or who you are, every IT system has downtime. The more complex it gets, the more downtime it'll have. That's universsal.

The only thing you can do about it is to rely as little as possible on such systems, something which Sony actually did, surprisingly.
Microsoft (and all those touting into the CLOUD!!!11 horn, really), do the exact opposite of that. I'll spare you the lengthy discourse on WHY it is that way, because everyone with a passing familiarity with IT systems knows it already, at least on a basic level.

If need be, I'll elaborate later.

Yeah I know, the cloud dependancy is a massive liability for the Xbox One and could seriously bite it in the arse. I'm also aware that "the cloud" is anything not confined to your closed local network, and it's nothing more than a fluffy marketing term,.

 

[Vivi22]

The Xbox One game licensing system benefits you in a number of ways. The biggest is that it frees you from discs. You buy a game disc, install it, and you put it back in the box and never have to worry about it again. If you want to play that game, you have immediate access to it, no matter where you are or whose Xbox One you are using. The shared library feature means you can give up to 10 friends access to your games, without passing discs around. If you have that one friend who always scratches your discs when you lend him your games, that will no longer be a problem. Simply put him on your shared library list, and he can download your game and play it without ever touching your discs. You don't have to ever worry about the dog chewing up your discs, or a burglar stealing them, or getting them scratched or dirty, or devoting space to storing them near your console.

They could have easily solved this by offering all games for purchase as digital copies at the same time retail copies are released. The idea that the licensing of physical copies as well and mandatory installs somehow frees people from being reliant on discs is bullshit. People buying at retail don't care, and those that don't buy at retail would be fine with digital purchases, making retail copies for them redundant anyway. It's a false solution to a made up problem, that also screws over those who don't want to be subject to whatever licensing restrictions a publisher decides to enforce.

Even worse, with a 500GB hard drive that can't be replaced, forcing everyone to install all of their games means that thing is going to get full pretty quickly. Especially several years down the road. Have fun deleting things when space is low and reinstalling them when you want to play them again because Microsoft didn't want to let you just buy a 1-2 TB hard drive and not have to worry about it.

Making Kinect mandatory gives developers the confidence that every Xbox One owner has a Kinect, which means they are going to build Kinect functionality into every game they make. This doesn't just mean having you flail your arms around. It also means voice chat and voice command and gameplay based on facial emotions. PS4 developers will not be sure that every PS4 owner has a PS Camera, so they will be less likely to build similar functionality. Basically, PS4 games will pretty much be PS3 games with better graphics, while Xbox One games will incorporate voice, gesture and emotion, giving you gameplay that Xbox 360 could never do. That's a big benefit.

It might be a big benefit if any company had actually demonstrated some ability to make Kinect games that don't suck. What's the real benefit of having a Kinect? Every Xbone will come packaged with an overpriced webcam and microphone so you can make video calls from the comfort of your couch and pre-teen kids can more easily swear at you in the new COD. Have fun with that.

allowing you to resell any game at any time through any retailer

Unless I'm mistaken, this is already out since only certain places will be able to delicense games from your account so they can be resold. Which would basically mean that if you want to buy or sell them on Ebay, at a flea market, or whatever else other than a big box retail store, you're shit out of luck.

 

[Anathrax]

It's the next watercooler[footnote]Watercooling not promised
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Erm... Well... Uuuh... It... gives you access to exclusives such as... Project Spark! (Oh wait that's on Windows 8 as well.) and... Titanfall!(PC)

...I have no clue. At all. I guess the Kinect sensor would be a nice yet overpriced gizmo to do some Yoga or exercise. It also has the controllers which look nice and would probably work well with the PC, probably better than a 360 controller.

Capacha: She sells
...PS4s.