You mean midichlorians?Hunde Des Krieg said:I don't really believe in any particular religion's god, but I would say the laws of physics and other natural and mathematical laws are god. If you get my meaning. To me god isn't a being but kind of like a force, like the force.
Yes. Or nanomachines. That's my bet. God is nanomachines. MGS4 actually makes sense now.Baby Tea said:You mean midichlorians?Hunde Des Krieg said:I don't really believe in any particular religion's god, but I would say the laws of physics and other natural and mathematical laws are god. If you get my meaning. To me god isn't a being but kind of like a force, like the force.
While I can understand some people wanting to believe in a higher power; I dislike how many people us God as a justification for some of the worst acts on the planet. If the institution of the church did not exist, I would probably be more apt to believe in God.AgentNein said:People always interpret that as a bad thing. I don't think the quote was ever actually intended to be a knock on religion.bue519 said:Ah yes, isn't religion the "opiate" of the masses?Corpse XxX said:A god is a weapon of mass seduction.. A made up figure trying to unite people against a common "enemy" to serve the leaders of the cult best, often financially..
We live in a harsh world. Most of us forum goers don't really realize how harsh and cruel the world can actually be to some people. An opiate such as religion can help fend off the hopelessness for a lot of people.
How dare you mention medichlorians! I don't recognize the prequals, and anyway medichlorians were just force manipulating bacteria that somehow allow jedi to utilize the force(WTF?), not the force itself. It was kind of a joke anyway.Baby Tea said:You mean midichlorians?Hunde Des Krieg said:I don't really believe in any particular religion's god, but I would say the laws of physics and other natural and mathematical laws are god. If you get my meaning. To me god isn't a being but kind of like a force, like the force.
This is coming from an atheist mind you, but I've always felt that religion is scapegoated far too much when it comes to all the bloodshed attributed to it. To put it simply, if it wasn't religion in my opinion, it would be something else. Point being, people in situations of power want more power. They want to control more people, either physically or mentally. We're also a violent creature by our very nature.bue519 said:While I can understand some people wanting to believe in a higher power; I dislike how many people us God as a justification for some of the worst acts on the planet. If the institution of the church did not exist, I would probably be more apt to believe in God.AgentNein said:People always interpret that as a bad thing. I don't think the quote was ever actually intended to be a knock on religion.bue519 said:Ah yes, isn't religion the "opiate" of the masses?Corpse XxX said:A god is a weapon of mass seduction.. A made up figure trying to unite people against a common "enemy" to serve the leaders of the cult best, often financially..
We live in a harsh world. Most of us forum goers don't really realize how harsh and cruel the world can actually be to some people. An opiate such as religion can help fend off the hopelessness for a lot of people.
Why arent the norse gods real, if i may ask?Pandalisk said:So i surpose Worship defines a god, a god can have flaws everyone knows from the bible that the gods had many flaws, hell the norse people knew there gods were dicks by the stories written about them (note im not saying their gods were real)
worship would bring anyone to a god-like status, if i could get my two dogs and my cat to bow and do my bidding on command and they build a statue of me with there crappy paws then i surpose i would be a god
Well, my argument was that omnipotent God doesn´t have to follow human logic. Logic would seem to dictate that if God breaks a rigid and unbreakable structure of physical laws, then said structure wouldn´t be unbreakable, but God doesn´t really give a damn about our notion of logic. Silly thing this is, really.AgentNein said:...so one thing God can't do is set up a rigid and unbreakable structure of physical laws for the world? Because said god could always break said rigid structure? Or he can't break the structure he created, either way he is not omnipotent. But now we're back at square one, aren't we?Incredible Bullshitting Man said:The said paradox can also be resolved with the notion that an omnipotent being doesn´t have to work within the frame of logic. It can create an object too heavy to lift and it can still lift it.
This would only be an issue of course if you define god as an omnipotent being. If you believe that your god has 'great and near limitless power', that's another thing entirely.
Well, its really the perfect method of control. Because the only other form of societal manipulation is nationalism, but the problem with this is that it usually doesn't transcend cultural boundaries, due to different languages and such. But, with religion it can unite many groups under a common cause.AgentNein said:This is coming from an atheist mind you, but I've always felt that religion is scapegoated far too much when it comes to all the bloodshed attributed to it. To put it simply, if it wasn't religion in my opinion, it would be something else. Point being, people in situations of power want more power. They want to control more people, either physically or mentally. We're also a violent creature by our very nature.bue519 said:While I can understand some people wanting to believe in a higher power; I dislike how many people us God as a justification for some of the worst acts on the planet. If the institution of the church did not exist, I would probably be more apt to believe in God.AgentNein said:People always interpret that as a bad thing. I don't think the quote was ever actually intended to be a knock on religion.bue519 said:Ah yes, isn't religion the "opiate" of the masses?Corpse XxX said:A god is a weapon of mass seduction.. A made up figure trying to unite people against a common "enemy" to serve the leaders of the cult best, often financially..
We live in a harsh world. Most of us forum goers don't really realize how harsh and cruel the world can actually be to some people. An opiate such as religion can help fend off the hopelessness for a lot of people.
Broloth said:It's more like, creating life without life is god-like. When a man and a woman make a child (thus life) it isn't god-like, but if someone uses molecules and test-tubes to make life, then it's perceived as god-like.joystickjunki3 said:Well, as far as I can tell from my upbringing in a Judeo-Christian environment, a god is a sentient being that possesses both knowledge and eternal life. Hence, when Adam and Eve partook in the forbidden fruit of knowledge God banished them from Eden so as not to allow them the chance to become immortal as He and the angels are.L33tsauce_Marty said:See I can't pinpoint what exactly what any religion such as Christianity would define a god. I remember a teacher talking about if god could make a rock so big that he couldn't move it, would that make him powerless? Is it the unstoppable force or the immovable object? Or what defines a god?
Others might say that the ability to create life is god-like. But that's just a branch of knowledge in my opinion.