What determines whether or not a man is a man?
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If I understand the question correctly, you are asking what makes someone a man in the socially accepted example. Considering that gender lines have slowly been disappearing since the 1960s, you'd think it would be more difficult to tell what would make someone a man. It used to be providing for your family and being an upright citizen (as in not having a criminal record or cheating/beating on your wife, not merely just someone who can stand up), but with single parents and artificial insemination these days, there's not much call for the old standards.
What makes it more difficult is location in some circumstances. Some people won't view you as a man unless you've been jail, killed someone, or performed oral sex on a dead woman knowing she had the clap when she died. In a religious sense, there is a lot of examples that I probably don't need to go in to, so I won't. In America, the lines have become rather blurred in the last fifty years, and I'm surprised I don't see more creative answers than "if he's got a dick, he's a man". What a lameass copout answer, people.
I still say it is taking care of your family, not intentionally trying to screw people over, and keeping your ass out of jail/family court. What I absolutely HATE is when a woman tells you to "man up". Going by everyones' answers, since women (at least a significant number of them that aren't transgender) don't have a dick, therefore have no other gauge as to tell a man how to be a man. And it is always a situation that doesn't require a dick to solve, either. It is easier to say how to emasculate someone than it is to say what determines their masculinity. Strange how life works out like that.
What makes it more difficult is location in some circumstances. Some people won't view you as a man unless you've been jail, killed someone, or performed oral sex on a dead woman knowing she had the clap when she died. In a religious sense, there is a lot of examples that I probably don't need to go in to, so I won't. In America, the lines have become rather blurred in the last fifty years, and I'm surprised I don't see more creative answers than "if he's got a dick, he's a man". What a lameass copout answer, people.
I still say it is taking care of your family, not intentionally trying to screw people over, and keeping your ass out of jail/family court. What I absolutely HATE is when a woman tells you to "man up". Going by everyones' answers, since women (at least a significant number of them that aren't transgender) don't have a dick, therefore have no other gauge as to tell a man how to be a man. And it is always a situation that doesn't require a dick to solve, either. It is easier to say how to emasculate someone than it is to say what determines their masculinity. Strange how life works out like that.
As this has already been answered properly, I'm going to pop in, make a silly answer then flee!
It all revolves how many man cards the man in question has, obviously.
You can have a max of 6 man cards and when it gets down to one, you are no longer a man. You are a boy. When you lose that card, all man and boy privileges are revoked 'til you do something in front of the person who took that last man card to redeem your manliness.
It all revolves how many man cards the man in question has, obviously.
You can have a max of 6 man cards and when it gets down to one, you are no longer a man. You are a boy. When you lose that card, all man and boy privileges are revoked 'til you do something in front of the person who took that last man card to redeem your manliness.
Having an X and a Y chromosome.
Some people are saying "his junk", but frankly, that's not true at all. Just because you do or do not have man-parts does not mean that you are or aren't a man.
Think about it: Lets just assume that there is a soldier fighting in Iraq. He is walking along and: BOOM! He gets his entire lower half brown off by an IED. Including his junk. Is he still a man?
Yes. Yes he is.
Oh, yea, and there's the whole "Mantage" thing.
Some people are saying "his junk", but frankly, that's not true at all. Just because you do or do not have man-parts does not mean that you are or aren't a man.
Think about it: Lets just assume that there is a soldier fighting in Iraq. He is walking along and: BOOM! He gets his entire lower half brown off by an IED. Including his junk. Is he still a man?
Yes. Yes he is.
Oh, yea, and there's the whole "Mantage" thing.
Gonna have to go with the Y chromosome.
If I cut your dick off (heaven forfend) you'd still be a man.
All be it a man cradling his crotch in the foetal position in a puddle of his own blood while crying for his mummy.
But still a man.
If I cut your dick off (heaven forfend) you'd still be a man.
All be it a man cradling his crotch in the foetal position in a puddle of his own blood while crying for his mummy.
But still a man.
How about if the statment was "to be born with a penis" then the junk statements would all be true. That means that even if he lost it like you said he would still be a man. If the person was not born with a penis (some unfortunate sydrome/disorer thingy, I can't think of the correct word to use.) then I would use your statement or that person is a woman.The Austin said:
Being a man is not about sexual conquest, or how much you can drink, or how hard you can party. It is not about the ability to fight, or destroy. A true man is one who takes care of his family, shows honor, respect, chooses substance over style. A man knows when to hold his tongue, and when to speak. A true man will admit when he's wrong, and be humble when he is right. A man seeks wisdom, and the truth, and avoids fools, and liars. He finds the faults within himself, and fixes them. A man seeks to find out what he does not know, and seeks to learn it. A man will stand up for what's right, and against what's wrong. A man Does these things no matter the cost.
This is my personal code that I have tried to lived by since I was about 13-14 years old. Admittingly I don't always hold my tongue when I should, and I tend to go off half cocked sometimes; I'm not as brave, or wise as I should be.
This is my personal code that I have tried to lived by since I was about 13-14 years old. Admittingly I don't always hold my tongue when I should, and I tend to go off half cocked sometimes; I'm not as brave, or wise as I should be.
Some men are actually born without penises..... Penises?.....Peniseses? Peni?Banana Phone Man said:
Anyway, some guys are born without junk, but they still have an X and a Y chromosome, so that means that they are a guy.
A boy becomes a man when he matures both physically and mentally.
A girl/woman might become a man after a sex change operation and with synthetic hormones (and is physically & mentally mature)
I wonder in which one of these two ways Justin Beiber will become a man, if at all.
A girl/woman might become a man after a sex change operation and with synthetic hormones (and is physically & mentally mature)
I wonder in which one of these two ways Justin Beiber will become a man, if at all.
Banana Phone Man said:
child of lileth said:
First thing everyone always says. A penis just makes you male. Plenty of people identify with a gender other then the one they where born with. I don't think a person that truly believes themselves to be a women is a man even if they where born with a penis.child of lileth said:
Being a man is different to every culture, there are even a large number of difference in micro cultures within the same culture.
DAMMIT!!!ForensicYOYO said:
I was just going to say "my doodle makes me a man"
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you become a man when you outgrow the need for your emotional mask and replace it with a identity created to suit the sociaty around you.
Fucking ninjas are getting good.Mariakitten said:
I guess I'll go with the Man VS Parasite thing then.
Oh, and yes you did win the thread.
Are you saying that if a man believes with no doubt that he is a woman, is a woman? I kind of agree and disagree with this. Ok here comes some crazy explanation/theroy to what os going on in my head so bear with me.manaman said:
If your quote is correct could you also say that a fanatical religious person who believes he is god (or what ever he worships), is god?
If someone believed truely that they were an alien with 3 heads does that make them an alien with 3 heads? (ok examples are getting worse so I'll stop there)
Here's where I agree and dsiagree with you. Mentally I guess they are correct and that they truely believe to be what they are. Physically however they are still just going to be people. This applies to this topic. If a person is born with a penis then he is physically a man (unless some sort of disorder thingy gave you the wrong junk but the chances are small) however mentally a man could to be a woman.
This is how I see it anyway. I have simple conversations and take them way too seriously.