What did you think of Man of Steel?

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Johnny Novgorod said:
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A reviewer is calling sexism because Fajora, ISN'T sexualized?...Explain please.
I think what he meant to say was that by eschewing a woman's sexuality they weaken her identity as a woman. At least that's what I think he meant. Touchy subject to approach at best.
Thats what I was thinking, I truly don't understand it though, It would be bad if her Kryptonian armour had a boob window, and I thought she was pretty much the most bad ass character in the film, she gave no fucks.
Well, the armor is kinda sexualized. It's essentially a steel bikini, with a catsuit beneath. Nothing terribly practical about it. Everybody else is seen wearing full body armor.

She also shown to be much faster than the other Kryptonians, so maybe her armor, or lack thereof, is for more flexibility.

Also, I'm having a hard time seeing how anyone but extremely fundamentalist Islamists could find that armor sexualized. The breasts aren't remotely pronounced, and every little bit of her is covered but her face (and even that is, most of the time).
I think she becomes more powerful than the others AFTER losing the armor and fully exposing herself to the sun. Like Zod as well. And I really doubt the bikini pattern is for flexibility. Why isn't everybody else wearing it then?
Bikini pattern? You're kidding, right? Please, tell me you're kidding. Where are her bikini bottoms? Unless you're thinking of the kind of bikini that doesn't come with a bottom portion, it makes absolutely no sense to compare her outfit to a bikini.

Sorry, but you're really stretching here.
 

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KungFuJazzHands said:
Bikini pattern?
Yes.
You're kidding, right?
No.
Please, tell me you're kidding.
Dude, I told you, no!
Where are her bikini bottoms?
At the bottom.
Sorry, but you're really stretching here.
Just a little bit.



Any armor that lays bare the midriff has some serious designer issues.
It's not really sexualized but the makers seem to have automatically thrown it in because women = midriff.
Here's some bibliography.

[link]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BareYourMidriff[/link]
[link]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainmailBikini[/link]
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:


Any armor that lays bare the midriff has some serious designer issues.
It's not really sexualized but the makers seem to have automatically thrown it in because women = midriff.
Here's some bibliography.

[link]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BareYourMidriff[/link]
[link]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainmailBikini[/link]
The portion you've highlighted with a red triangle isn't her crotch. Look closely -- it's near enough to her hips to be similar to a belt.

As far as "designer issues" go, we're talking about a comic-book movie here. There's no denying that her outfit is nonsensical from a practical viewpoint, but since when have real-life designs had any impact on what goes into these films?

The whole genre is silly to begin with, so I can't really fault Hollywood filmmakers (who are a bit slow-witted to begin with) for ignoring stuff like physics or proper armor configuration or equality ;)
 

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As far as "designer issues" go, we're talking about a comic-book movie here. There's no denying that her outfit is nonsensical from a practical viewpoint, but since when have real-life designs had any impact on what goes into these films?
Well, off the top of my head, the Batmobile from Batnolan looks more like an armored military Humvee than anything from the comic books. Generally speaking the Batsuit has evolved into something more realistic (or at least with less nipples). Same with most superhero suits. Even the folk from Watchmen get a realistic(ish) do-over. I don't know anymore how bikini-like Faora's uniform is, but it does look different from everybody else's, it covers less body parts than everybody else's and there's no evident reason for it except female.
 

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Speaking of Supes' costume: how the hell did he get it? He steps into his post-modern Fortress of Solitude, and when he steps out he's wearing it! Where the hell did he get it? What is it supposed to represent? Why does it fit him so perfectly? And when did he shave? Because he was Wolverine-hairy when he stepped in...
I'm assuming you mean the scene where

He meets his real father for the first time? Earlier in that scene Jor-El reveals the costume to Clark in one of the chambers. He also shows himself wearing a similar costume under his clothing. I'm not sure what you mean by 'represent', but in the questioning scene with Lois, he says the symbol means 'hope'.
But why that one shiny blue sparkly suit with a red cape? It looks nothing like what we've seen in Krypton and I wonder what it's supposed to represent. Not because of the 'S', just, is it supposed to be ordinary Kryptonian clothing, or what? I like it in superhero movies when they show you how they come up with their ridiculous suits and for ways to ground them in reality a bit. This just seemed out of the blue. Boom, come get your Superman suit, because you have to wear it for some reason.
I'm curious if anyone else picked up on the fact that Jor-El somehow managed to shoehorn the information that Zod tried to take over Krypton and was tried and punished for said deed, into that very fancy exposition video that he made for his son. That always stood out to me, seeing how the guy literally had minutes to prep his son for takeoff and he kinda died before he saw it being resolved.

That and the fact that the superman suit was lying around in an 18.000 year old ship, that had been left abandoned on Earth, all this time.
 

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I'm curious if anyone else picked up on the fact that Jor-El somehow managed to shoehorn the information that Zod tried to take over Krypton and was tried and punished for said deed, into that very fancy exposition video that he made for his son. That always stood out to me, seeing how the guy literally had minutes to prep his son for takeoff and he kinda died before he saw it being resolved.

That and the fact that the superman suit was lying around in an 18.000 year old ship, that had been left abandoned on Earth, all this time.
The only feasible explanation is that Kriptonian technology is sentient and updates itself accordingly.
Either that or some producer went "Thank god they invented the Whatever Device". You know the type.