What do DC fans like about DC?

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At the most basic surface level I just think the heroes are cooler and more powerful thus more exciting action would take place and its has Superman....a pure example of a Superhero. No gimmicks, nothing. I mean that is the thing about Marvel I don't like they have no Superman or Superman figure and no Captain America and Spiderman are not even close because none of them can stand center stage the sameway as Superman like this:

One of these is not like the other.

And that is?

Assuming I'm on the same page as the guy who said it: The last picture, where Superman is no longer pictured as a colourful figure of supreme hope but is shown in muted colours and surrounded by darkness to match the tone of the series.

You see that way I see it as this:

A beacon of light and hope shines admist the darkness and desolation.

But a basic critical analysis backs up my presentation as the one they were trying to get across.

Everything from the muted colours to the destruction porn of Man of Steel shows them trying to put across a more grim and edgier Superman, a Superman who is willing to let innocents die - even his own family - to protect himself and his identity.

This isn't coming from someone who hates DC and Superman, he's my favourite superhero and I love his renditions in comics like All-star Superman, Superman Beyond and classic issues of his own comic like What's so funny about Truth, Justice and the American way (Action Comics #775) and even good guest appearences (Hitman #34 springs to mind. However just because I like Superman, that doesn't mean that I'm blind to the fact that he's had many different writers some great, some good and some godawful - as well as various different presentations and characterisations. There is no one single true version of Superman, but rather a spectrum of different Supermen that vary depending on the story. Not all of them fit the archetype you're aiming for.

"Letting people die" and "failing to save people" are not the same thing.

Yes, when Superman chose to let his father die rather than reveal his identity (or try something that could possibly keep his identity hidden) that is an example of him letting someone die, exactly.

This is the only instance in the film of him doing that and even then it's only because his father tells him to. The first thing we see him do as an adult is save people from an oil rig and they actually see him. Hell, the only reason Lois is able to find him is because he's been saving so many people and left a trail.

1 > The amount of innocent people that should die as a result of Superman's outright refusal to save them.

Superman isn't Spider-man and even in Spider-man's case he would have stopped the robber in a heartbeat if he'd had reason to believe it would have saved Uncle Ben.

Also the second thing we see him do is passively aggressively refusing to directly confront a dude about his behaviour to a waitress, only to then go and destroy his truck and livelihood just before running away.

Funny how the comics have pointed out that Superman can hear the suffering of people all across yet is shown as not being able to stop it but that doesn't make him less heroic.

Compare it to Jonathan Kent's death in All-Star Superman. In All-Star Superman is fighting a monstrous creature with some other superheroes when he hears his father's heart stop beating as he dies of a heart attack. He rushes over there as fast as he can, despite there being nothing he can do.

Despite the fact that he couldn't save his father, he still tried to do so. This is the complete opposite situation from the movies where he could save his father but didn't try to. Both say very different things about the character.

And as for the trucker I fail to see why this is so deplorable. The Silver Age version did far worse things and the Reeve version as well. This is the guy who beats up a bully who doesn't even know that Superman has some beef with him thanks to Clark reversing time again (that thing his biological father told him not to do) and trashes the bar while doing it. And let's not forget the mind wipe kiss and then leaving her alone for years with a baby she didn't even know how she got thanks to said kiss. Face it, there a re version of Superman that have done far worse things than Snyder's version and I say this as someone who doesn't care for much of Snyder's work.

The silver age version got in contrived situations where the only possible response was to do something incredibly convoluted, hence all those bizarre covers (when they weren't dreams or imaginary stories or whatever).

The situation Clark finds himself in is one that could literally be dealt with by a normal human person. Instead he is completely passive aggressive, doesn't confront the root of the problem at all (the trucker's attitude towards women) and just wrecks the dude's livelihood.

Also although other versions of Superman have been weird, they don't ruin the core of the character as Snyder's does. At heart, Superman is someone who will help others. Therefore when he doesn't help others and lets them die, it's very bad. Pulling random powers out of his ass to remove people knowing his identity is at least consistent with his silver-age nonsense.

Seriously? Have you met assholes like this in real life? If they were that easy to deal with, so many of them wouldn't be around. In fact, the dialogue suggests this is not the first time the trucker's done something like that. And there was no reason for Reeves' Clark to go back to that bar after he altered time. He could have moved on.

Again, we see this Superman saving people throughout the film. I really don't know what movie you watched.