Well you die then they burry you then you start decomposing intill your just a skelaton. Nothing happens sorrey if it makes people depressed it certainly makes me feel bad.solidsnake101023 said:What do you believe happens to you when you die?
Well you die then they burry you then you start decomposing intill your just a skelaton. Nothing happens sorrey if it makes people depressed it certainly makes me feel bad.solidsnake101023 said:What do you believe happens to you when you die?
Given that you wouldn't have any memory of your past life, is it really you being reborn, or is it really you being recycled?Rusman said:I guess in a round about way I'm saying I believe in reincarnation, although we'll have no memories of a previous life. That'd be nice.
Yeah I guess it probably would be, it would be nice to think that we would be exactly the same person, albeit with some minor graphical enhancements and just no memories of a previous existence but that wouldn't explain why similar, more outspoken entities (like Hitler or Ghandi) haven't kept popping up more often with the same goals but a different face. I mean it's not like it doesn't happen but if we did reincarnate then by averages it should happen a lot more.Cry Wolf said:Sadly, I am one who believes in the depressing reality of no life after death. I really wish I felt belief as other do on their spirituality, as my perception of death is bleak, but I don't.
Given that you wouldn't have any memory of your past life, is it really you being reborn, or is it really you being recycled?Rusman said:I guess in a round about way I'm saying I believe in reincarnation, although we'll have no memories of a previous life. That'd be nice.
You can be reincarnated into an animal, but only if you have lead a bad life. I would be turned into a butterfly, no one expects the Butterfly >manaman said:I got a better question: What do you think happened to you before you where born?
Was it the same thing that happens to you when you die? I mean if we are supposed to have some immortal spirit wouldn't it have existed before we were born as well?
It always struck me as odd that nobody bothers to address this in religions. Well except the concept of reincarnation, which still doesn't add up as there are as more people around then ever before, so where there souls just hanging around in limbo waiting for a spare body to open up?
I suppose the difference in interpretation come down to how we both define how we became to be. If you are to believe we would be reincarnated as the same person, then you likely believe that we're born the way we are. I on the other hand believe we are the sum of our experiences, and thus if I were to be reincarnated without memory then I would not be the same person.Rusman said:Yeah I guess it probably would be, it would be nice to think that we would be exactly the same person, albeit with some minor graphical enhancements and just no memories of a previous existence but that wouldn't explain why similar, more outspoken entities (like Hitler or Ghandi) haven't kept popping up more often with the same goals but a different face. I mean it's not like it doesn't happen but if we did reincarnate then by averages it should happen a lot more.Cry Wolf said:Sadly, I am one who believes in the depressing reality of no life after death. I really wish I felt belief as other do on their spirituality, as my perception of death is bleak, but I don't.
Given that you wouldn't have any memory of your past life, is it really you being reborn, or is it really you being recycled?Rusman said:I guess in a round about way I'm saying I believe in reincarnation, although we'll have no memories of a previous life. That'd be nice.
I think I sit somewhere in the middle, less of a nature Vs nurture and more a nature as well as nurture, I think something are inherently with us from day 1, but a lot comes from our experience like you say. I never really thought about this side of the coin though and, you do make a good point, if we really had no memories the likelihood is we would become very different people. But then it could turn the other way, if we are a completely different person then is it still reincarnation? How much of us is inherent to our "souls"?Cry Wolf said:I suppose the difference in interpretation come down to how we both define how we became to be. If you are to believe we would be reincarnated as the same person, then you likely believe that we're born the way we are. I on the other hand believe we are the sum of our experiences, and thus if I were to be reincarnated without memory then I would not be the same person.Rusman said:Yeah I guess it probably would be, it would be nice to think that we would be exactly the same person, albeit with some minor graphical enhancements and just no memories of a previous existence but that wouldn't explain why similar, more outspoken entities (like Hitler or Ghandi) haven't kept popping up more often with the same goals but a different face. I mean it's not like it doesn't happen but if we did reincarnate then by averages it should happen a lot more.Cry Wolf said:Sadly, I am one who believes in the depressing reality of no life after death. I really wish I felt belief as other do on their spirituality, as my perception of death is bleak, but I don't.
Given that you wouldn't have any memory of your past life, is it really you being reborn, or is it really you being recycled?Rusman said:I guess in a round about way I'm saying I believe in reincarnation, although we'll have no memories of a previous life. That'd be nice.
Or, I completely stuffed up and made assumptions about your beliefs which were incorrect.
This is really where I was coming from. I've thought long and hard when it comes to life after death and spirituality, trying to find or create something I can truly believe in. I've pondered many times the idea of reincarnation, and the idea has always been somewhat unsettling to me. How I define myself as a person is forever linked to what I have done, and the idea that it might be taken from me is more than a little daunting.Rusman said:If we are a completely different person then is it still reincarnation?Cry Wolf said:I suppose the difference in interpretation come down to how we both define how we became to be. If you are to believe we would be reincarnated as the same person, then you likely believe that we're born the way we are. I on the other hand believe we are the sum of our experiences, and thus if I were to be reincarnated without memory then I would not be the same person.Rusman said:Yeah I guess it probably would be, it would be nice to think that we would be exactly the same person, albeit with some minor graphical enhancements and just no memories of a previous existence but that wouldn't explain why similar, more outspoken entities (like Hitler or Ghandi) haven't kept popping up more often with the same goals but a different face. I mean it's not like it doesn't happen but if we did reincarnate then by averages it should happen a lot more.Cry Wolf said:Sadly, I am one who believes in the depressing reality of no life after death. I really wish I felt belief as other do on their spirituality, as my perception of death is bleak, but I don't.
Given that you wouldn't have any memory of your past life, is it really you being reborn, or is it really you being recycled?Rusman said:I guess in a round about way I'm saying I believe in reincarnation, although we'll have no memories of a previous life. That'd be nice.
Or, I completely stuffed up and made assumptions about your beliefs which were incorrect.
Very interesting view on what the soul is. I find myself wondering if such a thing exists quite a lot. The closest I have come to some how explaining it to myself is that the soul is literally just what makes a person individual, the collections of personality traits that are unique to you and you alone.Cry Wolf said:This is really where I was coming from. I've thought long and hard when it comes to life after death and spirituality, trying to find or create something I can truly believe in. I've pondered many times the idea of reincarnation, and the idea has always been somewhat unsettling to me. How I define myself as a person is forever linked to what I have done, and the idea that it might be taken from me is more than a little daunting.Rusman said:If we are a completely different person then is it still reincarnation?Cry Wolf said:I suppose the difference in interpretation come down to how we both define how we became to be. If you are to believe we would be reincarnated as the same person, then you likely believe that we're born the way we are. I on the other hand believe we are the sum of our experiences, and thus if I were to be reincarnated without memory then I would not be the same person.Rusman said:Yeah I guess it probably would be, it would be nice to think that we would be exactly the same person, albeit with some minor graphical enhancements and just no memories of a previous existence but that wouldn't explain why similar, more outspoken entities (like Hitler or Ghandi) haven't kept popping up more often with the same goals but a different face. I mean it's not like it doesn't happen but if we did reincarnate then by averages it should happen a lot more.Cry Wolf said:Sadly, I am one who believes in the depressing reality of no life after death. I really wish I felt belief as other do on their spirituality, as my perception of death is bleak, but I don't.
Given that you wouldn't have any memory of your past life, is it really you being reborn, or is it really you being recycled?Rusman said:I guess in a round about way I'm saying I believe in reincarnation, although we'll have no memories of a previous life. That'd be nice.
Or, I completely stuffed up and made assumptions about your beliefs which were incorrect.
As for how much is inherent to the soul, what is a soul? I find myself as somewhat of a materialist, and I believe spirit and the mind are one and the same. Given this presumption, what is inherent to the soul is merely the strongest element of human nature - survival.
Also, I don't believe there are really any strange beliefs - even less so the apparent composite of multiple already conceived ideologies. I don't think anyone person should be confined to the ideas of another - which happens to be one of my problems is personally finding faith in religion.
Closer to the topic: Does believing in more-than-death bring peace to you? I've never found ease with any philosophies on death and I was wonder if there really was peace to be found.