What do you LIKE about the current state of gaming?

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ScrabbitRabbit

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There's an awful lot of negativity in the gaming community right now. Some of it is justified, sure, but gaming is something we do to for entertainment. There's gotta be a reason you're still here, right?

There are a lot of things that I think are great about the industry right now. Things seem brighter now than when they did back when I was a wee one, to be honest.

Retro gaming!

Services like GoG and the Virtual Console let me buy some really fantastic games that I missed the first time around, without needing to hold on to ancient hardware/piss around with DOSBOX or whathaveyou. There's a good couple of decades worth of classics waiting to be played. Some titles are even easier to get now than they were at release! Phantasy Star IV, for example.

Cheapness!

OK, so new AAA games can be pretty expensive and then there's DLC if you're into that (I've only ever bought one DLC, m'self and that was for Magicka) so you're probably wondering what I'm talking about.

Well, as a PC Gamer, shit's never been cheaper for me. Relatively low end hardware can run the majority of games at an acceptable level (for now) and there's always a massive sale or two somewhere on the internet. Between the Humble Bundles, Steam Sales, Green Man Gaming, GoG sales and even deep retail discounts you can build a massive library entirely by accident.

I've bought over 200 games in this past year which... was really quite stupid on my part, but still! 200! 10 years ago someone with my kinda money wouldn't have been able to buy 200 games in a year without filing for bankruptcy at the end of it. Plus, I should have more than enough of a backlog to tide me over until I can afford to get some next-gen hardware, so yay future savings!

Indies!

A few people here aren't fans of indie games, but there have been a lot of indies this generation that I've really loved. Games like Gemini Rue and Lone Survivor have become some of my favourites of all time, and others such as Amnesia or Minecraft have almost become modern classics. Commercial indie games have always existed but it seems like they're given much more of a chance now. It's like the early '80s, where anybody could make a game, except with less unplayable shit.

Even the AAA industry doesn't suck, really!

There have been more fantastic games than I can even count this generation. A lot of people like to complain that all we get are CoD clones but I don't think that's true at all. We've gotten wonderfully unique puzzlers like Portal, open-ended stealth 'em ups like Human Revolution, Batman revolutionized the brawler and Darksiders may well be one of the best games in the whole Zelda franchise.

I think it's easy enough to ignore the bits that you don't like. I haven't played a single CoD-clone except Homefront (it came in a bundle so I thought "why not?") and Battlefield 3's single player, which I promptly ignored in favour of it's incredibly fun multi-player.

I'm not saying that there aren't problems and that they aren't worth discussing, but let's try to lighten up and talk about why we still care enough about gaming to yell at each other on the internet.
 

ShinyCharizard

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I'm loving the current state of gaming. It seems that every year more and more awesome games come out. To the point that I can't even afford all the games I want any more because there is just too many good ones out there. At least steam sales and the like ease the cost somewhat.
 

piinyouri

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You don't see quite as many games come out that are fundamentally, beyond argument, broken.
With the exception of a very few, like possibly A:CM, you don't get games anymore like say, Dark Castle which literally are unplayable.

And even when games did function out of the box back then, they were all needlessly hard.
There's a good amount of fapping that goes on over old games seemingly being better quality wise because they were harder, but it's not always true.

There were a few exceptions probably, but most games back then (NES-SNES) where designed with an arcade mind set, almost like they were made with taking your money in mind, but really just ended up taking your time because they were often cheap, straight out unfair, and to save time and money little or not thought (And in some cases certainly not much testing) was put into them.

Overall, games are better today. Yes, there still exist all the negatives which everyone here knows by heart by now so I will not repeat them and bog this thread down with that old song and dance.

I've played games since I was a little girl. Atari, NES, SNES, 64, PlayStation, Xbox and so on. I've had a little of everything. I still enjoy my oldies, my Crystalis, my E.V.O. Search For Eden and my Brain Lord.
And I will honestly say that gaming today is on average, a bit better than ever.

Flame shield up, come at me bro, ect ect.
 

scorptatious

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A lot of my favorite games are from this gen:

Valkyria Chronicles
Journey
Fallout: New Vegas
Bayonetta
Skullgirls

ect.

Plus, I kinda like how some old and outdated concepts, like extra lives, are slowly being abandoned. Sure, games like the Mario and Sonic series still hold onto it, but I feel it's only a matter of time.

Also, stuff like Kickstarter and Indiegogo. The creators of Skullgirls used the latter in order to get money to create new characters for their game, and they reached over $400,000. I kinda doubt something like that could ever happen back in the old days.

Plus I also like digital distribution. If there's an old game I want to play, I could find it online in places like Steam, GoG, PSN, ect. and purchase it there. I doubt I would have ever played games like Final Fantasy IX if it weren't for digital distribution.
 

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I agree that the current state is pretty good. There are good games being made that are cheap due to steam sales and such. There are games to cater to everyone. A lot of the negativity is kind of baseless, like "I don't like this game therefore the industry is turning to shit!" It's not a direct quote but it's what it feels like at the moment.

At the moment it is a bit slow for games that I'm interested in but that's just because of the time of the year it is and that changes in just under 2 weeks when Bioshock Infinite is released. I felt as if last year was a little slower but this year is looking promising.
 

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I feel like I'm going to be attacked by a pack of rabid 's for saying this on this forum, but I love the amazing graphics that are being delivered by the games of today. I am routinely stunned by the visuals in games, previously something that had only happened with films. It helps me take any stories being told by games a lot more seriously than if they looked liked they were being reenacted with legos. A lot of people take this graphical fidelity for granted, and it takes hideous reminders of yesteryear's graphics and animations like Aliens: Colonial Marines to remind people just how good we have it.
 

King Aragorn

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Same here. I love gaming as of now, as we advance, devs get more freedom, more abilities and things to do. And yes, including visuals.
And pinn makes a very good point. Old games, in reality, are very, VERY short, but they're made very hard. Mario can be beaten in what, 2 minutes?
 

The Wykydtron

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Ah good. The counter "needless unfounded rage @ AAA games" thread. I wondered when it would roll in and save the day XD

I like the indie scene at the moment (< sounds way too Hipster than I actually am,) there are a load of awesome games out there on Steam and elsewhere. I've bought fuck all games this year so far but ONLY because i'm playing too much League of Legends and trying to generally get decent at fighting games. These both take time. A LOT of time. As in I have a Support Nami game loading in the background as I write this at 8:00am. Fuck bitches, Nami is borderline BROKEN if you can land the stuns.

I'm sick and can't sleep dammit.

There was a recent update on Persona 4 Arena releasing in the EU for example and that good old Hype returns in 2 seconds. Give me my Shabrys. Nao.

Oh and the F2P stuff is gonna get interesting as it evolves i'm sure. I mean LoL proves that you clearly don't need to be Pay2Win to be successful as a F2P business model.

Shit looks shinier but people still need to learn what "aesthetics" are. If I hear "OH FAWK THE GRAPHICS?! SO GUD!" at a game with a unique artstyle I will have to punch somebody. It just irritates me. I mean Persona 4 is among my favourite looking games list and that has classic PS2 blurriness going for it. By today's standards it has really outdated and objectively bad graphics.
 

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Yes! People who share my opinion!
I just roll my eyes at people who herald the recent years as proof of the industry's collapse.
But holy crap! Games these days are awesome! For me, it's hard to even hate CoD.

Shiny visuals, more immersive stories, excellent gameplay, scenery that just makes me go "wow"...
Damn near every game I've played recently have just made my heart jump, both in good and bad ways.
Captcha: see ya!
Not today, captcha; not today. I still love this industry.
 

Neverhoodian

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I like how long this current (admittedly soon to be previous) generation has lasted. I appreciate being able to keep up with current games without having to worry about shelling out a couple hundred bucks every two years for a new system/rig.

I like the rise of certain "Free-to-Play" games like Team Fortress 2 (though I did buy that game initially), World of Tanks and Lord of the Rings Online that allow me to spend as much or as little money I want without becoming "Pay-to-Win." Other F2P titles would do well to take notes.

I like how there are lots of options now for up-and-coming indie developers to make themselves known.

I like how there is (finally) more of an interest in preserving gaming history.

*Flame Shield Activated*

I like the greater accessibility of most modern open world RPGs over the clunky, needlessly complicated grindapaloozas of yesteryear (though Morrowind is still one of my all-time favorites of the genre).
 

King Aragorn

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Yeah, people seem to think that making things needlessly complex makes things always better. It doesn't, it just become irritating.
 

MrHide-Patten

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There's always new games coming out. I'd be happier playing something new than dwell forever on older experiences.

And bigger and experiences at that, as much a stink as people made about Mass effect 3 it's still remains an incredibly ambiotious project tieing together two other games and a bunch of interesting characaters. It's as close to The Avengers the industry has gotten to honestly.
 

Squilookle

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I like that since there are so few games each year that interest me anymore, I end up saving a lot of money and time for other pursuits.
 

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Improved graphics are always awesome. Also, the higher budgets usually provide with storytelling experiences that constantly trup whatever bullshit Hollywood is trying to pass off as entertainment these days.

But for me, personally, the revival of the Fighting Game genre. Hands down. As a wee lad growing up, one of my favorite games was Capcom vs SNK for the PS1. At first my young mind was baffled at the sheer complexity of the game's controls and mechanics, but as time went by, my fear grew into a longing for worthy opponents. And then, Street Fighter IV happened. At first, I hated the new graphics and art style, but my friend got me hooked on it. After that the floodgates opened, with BlazBlue, MvC3, new KoF and Tekken titles, you name it.

Granted, companies quickly got smart and started milking the new generation's traditions of DLC mongering (looking at you there, Capcom), while still releasing glorified balance patches in form of new games with a couple new character introduced to the roster like they did back in the 80s.

All in all, though, I'm happy with the whole fighting game boom.

The Wykydtron said:
There was a recent update on Persona 4 Arena releasing in the EU for example and that good old Hype returns in 2 seconds. Give me my Shabrys. Nao.
While I'm well aware of your ardent passion for the Persona series, I myself am finding it hard to care about Arena anymore at this point. My dreams of becoming THE Akihiko Sanada have been long forgotten. Not only that, but I'm already expecting the same kind of bullshit to befall BB: Chrono Phantasma. At this point I wonder how the 4 monkeys (can't be much more of them at the pace they're working) at Zen United have managed to retain their fucking contract with ASW...

So yeah. Gimme my Akihiko, and gimme my goddamn Hazama! /pure hatred
 

King Aragorn

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JdaS said:
Improved graphics are always awesome. Also, the higher budgets usually provide with storytelling experiences that constantly trup whatever bullshit Hollywood is trying to pass off as entertainment these days.

But for me, personally, the revival of the Fighting Game genre. Hands down. As a wee lad growing up, one of my favorite games was Capcom vs SNK for the PS1. At first my young mind was baffled at the sheer complexity of the game's controls and mechanics, but as time went by, my fear grew into a longing for worthy opponents. And then, Street Fighter IV happened. At first, I hated the new graphics and art style, but my friend got me hooked on it. After that the floodgates opened, with BlazBlue, MvC3, new KoF and Tekken titles, you name it.

Granted, companies quickly got smart and started milking the new generation's traditions of DLC mongering (looking at you there, Capcom), while still releasing glorified balance patches in form of new games with a couple new character introduced to the roster like they did back in the 80s.

All in all, though, I'm happy with the whole fighting game boom.
This, I can agree with. Mortal Kombat's revival was just awesome. The series been stagnant since the last gen, and we got a proper, competitive yet accessible, fun MK.
Can't wait to see what they do next!
 

Karoshi

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I'm happy with mods being easy to install and how many of them exist. Steam Workshop is awfully useful and I don't have to worry about possibly installing malicious software, so it's a big plus.

Better facial animations. Last of Us absolutely blew my mind with its love towards details, and there are couple game which won me over just with their graphics.

And the biggest advantage of gaming right now... Art games. Sure, many people consider them the plague of gaming and tear those couple artsy games apart, but I love them. You don't always need games that test your skill or that are "fun", but sometimes you need a story, a journey or something to new to experience.