What do you really hate about Metroid Other M?

[Internet Kraken]

The fact that writer apparently ignored the entire Metroid Prime series when he wrote this game. From what I've heard, he basically said they were non-cannon. A highly praised series that is a big fan favorite has been completely dismissed because the original creator of the Metroid franchise didn't want them to mess with the story he wanted to tell. That's an insult to all the fans of your series. You can't just take one of their favorite series of games and say it didn't happen. Especially when it is just for the sake of preserving your own story. You should build your story to work with those games instead.

A lot of people are saying Team Ninja was responsible for what happened. They may have fucked up the game play, but from what I gather they didn't actually write. So I don't think it is appropriate to blame them unless we're talking about game play.

 

[mattttherman3]

No Samus Hentai!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Legendary Alucard]

The Fact that the game has bin milked out badly... Worse then wha they done with Halo -.-

Halo hasn't been milked yet. Halo Reach was awesome.

It's going to get the crap milked out of it now that Bungie is done with the franchise though. Microsoft wants to have a Halo game out every 1-2 years, not cool.

Come on.. they even made this shitty Anime... Halo got Milked out badly... Face the Fact.. they did that when the brought out that RTS (for Console) i dont have that much against RTS on a console.. but atleast make a system that works.. and a Storyline worth playing.. They should of made a End at halo 2 and then just Face the other way and come up with something new..

who on earth truely hated every mini-movie in halo legends?....even if you hate halo "the package" was damn awsome.

Its not that i hate it.. its more the fact that they Milked it out.. they could of done much better then this.. come on -.- Halo doesnt have the world best Story line.. Its a fun shooter.. Plus there is only one spartan xD And thats Kratos

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

The Fact that the game has bin milked out badly... Worse then wha they done with Halo -.-

Halo hasn't been milked yet. Halo Reach was awesome.

It's going to get the crap milked out of it now that Bungie is done with the franchise though. Microsoft wants to have a Halo game out every 1-2 years, not cool.

Come on.. they even made this shitty Anime... Halo got Milked out badly... Face the Fact.. they did that when the brought out that RTS (for Console) i dont have that much against RTS on a console.. but atleast make a system that works.. and a Storyline worth playing.. They should of made a End at halo 2 and then just Face the other way and come up with something new..

who on earth truely hated every mini-movie in halo legends?....even if you hate halo "the package" was damn awsome.

Its not that i hate it.. its more the fact that they Milked it out.. they could of done much better then this.. come on -.- Halo doesnt have the world best Story line.. Its a fun shooter.. Plus there is only one spartan xD And thats Kratos

does kratos have a suit of armor and a gun that shoot a lazer beam of death?

 

[Flying-Emu]

That's a grey area to me. I loved the way the game played and want to see another Metroid play like this but I would like the start with nothing and build yourself up formula the originals had and more exploration.

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YOu WANT to see that absolutely horrendous missile firing system again? God save your soul.

All good franchises get milked. Look at Star Wars! Also if Halo Reach is the result of milking then I'm guessing the cow had troubles producing milk properly until now.

Star Wars is getting a sitcom.

That is all.

 

[WilliamRLBaker]

Zero punctuation put it best every thing he had wrong with the game I had wrong with it when I watched reviews and actually played the game.

 

[AyreonMaiden]

Honestly, nothing.

There's nothing I love more than displaying weakness in a "strong" character. I hate unflappable, infallibly badass characters that LOL KICK ASS AND TAKE NAMES. I was glad to see Samus have an attachment to something. I was ecstatic to hear that she lost her head at the sight of Ridley. I adored that she had to be rescued. It is HUMAN to need help sometimes. It may not have been executed so well, but I love that there was a time in Samus' life when she WAS afraid of something.

Just cause she showed weakness for once doesn't mean she isn't badass. Are people so fickle that one game will make them forget about the rest?

But then, I also didn't uphold Samus as this symbol for RAWR STRONG FEMALENESS OF POWERFULNESS any more than I did Lara Croft or Kasumi from DOA. I think all that agenda-making is complete bullshit. To me she was a game character who happened to be a woman, and no more. I never attached an agenda to an 8 bit Nintendo character.

I just hate talk of the ruination of a character. Don't like it? ignore it and move on. The series was fine without Other M, and it's STILL good in spite of it. You don't have to play Other M, but it's nice to know that for people like me, there is this snippet of Samus' life where she was vulnerable and afraid. Badasses aren't born, you know.

The biggest problem, as stated before, is that this isn't a prequel to the whole series, which makes a bunch of aforementioned things look out of character.

But on the whole, I think all the IDEAS on display in Metroid Other M were excellent ones. Having narration, having cinematic cutscenes, having other characters voice acted...all ideas that, with the right studio who'd treat the franchise with reverence, I'd love to see in a Zelda game. (and I'm a HUGE Zelda fanboy.)

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EDIT: To add to this wall of text...

It's really sad to see people react so violently to this game. The least we could do is give Nintendo constructive criticism so that they can do it right next time, instead of waxing hyperbolic about how it's signaling the death of a seminal franchise. It's only ONE game out of 8 or so; an experiment, and one that needs work, but could be great if polished. The least we could be is constructive.

What a violent cycle. If they try to do something different than the usual, people throw a hissy fit. But then, time passes, and you look in sites like IGN or Gamespot and you see lists of "Ten Things We'd Love To See in a Mario/Zelda/Metroid Game." as if they've completely forgotten that they tried a few of these things and they got blasted for it.

Can't win for losing.

 

[Diddy_Mao]

God there's no way for me to come out of this without sounding like a total fanboy.
All I can say is that if we were having a similar discussion about Legend of Zelda or Half Life I'd still be this much of a nitpicking nerd about it.

Anyway.
If I were to approach the game as a newcomer to the Metroid series and Team Ninja as a developer I would find very little staggeringly wrong with it. I'd be annoyed at the blatantly sexist portrayal of the whiny lead and more than a little irritated with the sloppy play controls.

I'd consider it a competent but altogether forgettable action shooter that I probably wouldn't have bothered finishing.

However I can't approach it that way. I'm forced to see it from the viewpoint of a kid who grew up playing the Metroid games and as someone who has developed a fairly healthy hatred for Team Ninja.
So my issues become much more finely focused.
I do have major issues with the portrayal of Samus as a weak, subservient cowardly little girl when she has been shown to be a much more confident and self sufficient woman.

I'm going to deviate for a second here and address the "Samus had no personality because she was a silent character" argument.

That's a flimsy argument at best. Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton managed to portray their own characters with staggering efficiency without saying a single word. In the same way anyone can deduce the kind of woman Samus Aran is by what information we know about her and her actions in the games.

#1. She's not a rank and file soldier she's a bounty hunter! Which by definition infers a degree of self reliance and confidence. You don't go hunting down the nastiest threats to galactic peace all by yourself without having some pretty solid nerves and a healthy dose of confidence in your own abilities.

#2. She was raised by the Chozo, who are shown in the games to be a fairly mystical and stoic race, a lot of the records found in game make mention of their inquisitive and contemplative nature. Being raised by this race we must assume she has assimilated these aspects of their culture as best she can.

#3. She's always been portrayed as having something of a maternal or protective instinct. She's the type of person who will save and protect stranded or imprisoned animals. This is shown in Super Metroid and carries over into Metroid Fusion. It can even be seen in her cinematics during the Super Smash Brothers Brawl story.

Anyway back to my complaints. All three points above are aggressively contradicted by Metroid: Other M.
She's whiny and complacent, she's reliant on the other people around her to clean up her whoopsies and give her orders. Contradictory not only to her somewhat calm and stoic nature in previous games but also to the mewling little girl she's portrayed as in this game Her attitude towards combat seems to have taken on a sense of barbaric bloodlust.
Lastly, yes her maternal nature is a major plot point in Other M but it's so hamfisted that it's painful to watch. We've always been given the impression that any maternal actions are more nature than nurture, as though she's not entirely comfortable with the idea. Like maybe she's the kind of person who would form a connection with a Metroid Hatchling but still hand it over for research because that's what she was contracted to do.

As for the game play itself. I'm forced to stack it up with all the other poorly designed and frankly clumsy Team Ninja titles out there.

 

[Nieroshai]

The fanboy outrage about anything different from their favorite installment. I enjoyed this game, and while there were some minor annoyances, they weren't enough to kill the game. Even for me, a hardcore metroid fan.

 

[CheckD3]

I have yet to play the game, and starting next week I can rent it for free, so I shall do so and beat the game as quickly as possible so I can start searching the Other M stories more, since I don't like spoilers

From what I know about it, I estimate that one or more of the following things might bother me.

The controls, since while the Wii has that extra part, we don't get to use it...isn't that special?

Story. I love Metroid, the Prime trilo is one of my fave trilos ever. I know little to nothing from the Super Metroid era, and thus my story may be a bit...off. Also, I hear the story, while trying to give Samus more of a personality, ends up making her a whiny *****, which makes me a Sad panda

How upgrades are done. All I know is that the worst case is Samus running through super heat without her varia suit because she wasn't "allowed" to wear it...really? It's one thing if she had to for a purpose other than that, would build to the climax of the situation. That just turns me off

Hopefully I can still enjoy the game after these and possible other flaws

 

[Daystar Clarion]

The fanboy outrage about anything different from their favorite installment. I enjoyed this game, and while there were some minor annoyances, they weren't enough to kill the game. Even for me, a hardcore metroid fan.

I second this. Sure, Samus could have been characterised a lot better, but the game played very well, I had no problems with the controls. It's just nowhere near as good as the prime games, but that's their fault for being so awesome!

 

[Legendary Alucard]

The Fact that the game has bin milked out badly... Worse then wha they done with Halo -.-

Halo hasn't been milked yet. Halo Reach was awesome.

It's going to get the crap milked out of it now that Bungie is done with the franchise though. Microsoft wants to have a Halo game out every 1-2 years, not cool.

Come on.. they even made this shitty Anime... Halo got Milked out badly... Face the Fact.. they did that when the brought out that RTS (for Console) i dont have that much against RTS on a console.. but atleast make a system that works.. and a Storyline worth playing.. They should of made a End at halo 2 and then just Face the other way and come up with something new..

who on earth truely hated every mini-movie in halo legends?....even if you hate halo "the package" was damn awsome.

Its not that i hate it.. its more the fact that they Milked it out.. they could of done much better then this.. come on -.- Halo doesnt have the world best Story line.. Its a fun shooter.. Plus there is only one spartan xD And thats Kratos

does kratos have a suit of armor and a gun that shoot a lazer beam of death?

Why a Armor and a DeathLaser... His Blades And His Bad Ass look Does Everything for him..

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

The Fact that the game has bin milked out badly... Worse then wha they done with Halo -.-

Halo hasn't been milked yet. Halo Reach was awesome.

It's going to get the crap milked out of it now that Bungie is done with the franchise though. Microsoft wants to have a Halo game out every 1-2 years, not cool.

Come on.. they even made this shitty Anime... Halo got Milked out badly... Face the Fact.. they did that when the brought out that RTS (for Console) i dont have that much against RTS on a console.. but atleast make a system that works.. and a Storyline worth playing.. They should of made a End at halo 2 and then just Face the other way and come up with something new..

who on earth truely hated every mini-movie in halo legends?....even if you hate halo "the package" was damn awsome.

Its not that i hate it.. its more the fact that they Milked it out.. they could of done much better then this.. come on -.- Halo doesnt have the world best Story line.. Its a fun shooter.. Plus there is only one spartan xD And thats Kratos

does kratos have a suit of armor and a gun that shoot a lazer beam of death?

Why a Armor and a DeathLaser... His Blades And His Bad Ass look Does Everything for him..

...because a stab from a human sword (not energy sword) cannot puncture a 7 inch thick hide of pure steel....and lasers are awsome.

 

[Legendary Alucard]

The Fact that the game has bin milked out badly... Worse then wha they done with Halo -.-

Halo hasn't been milked yet. Halo Reach was awesome.

It's going to get the crap milked out of it now that Bungie is done with the franchise though. Microsoft wants to have a Halo game out every 1-2 years, not cool.

Come on.. they even made this shitty Anime... Halo got Milked out badly... Face the Fact.. they did that when the brought out that RTS (for Console) i dont have that much against RTS on a console.. but atleast make a system that works.. and a Storyline worth playing.. They should of made a End at halo 2 and then just Face the other way and come up with something new..

who on earth truely hated every mini-movie in halo legends?....even if you hate halo "the package" was damn awsome.

Its not that i hate it.. its more the fact that they Milked it out.. they could of done much better then this.. come on -.- Halo doesnt have the world best Story line.. Its a fun shooter.. Plus there is only one spartan xD And thats Kratos

does kratos have a suit of armor and a gun that shoot a lazer beam of death?

Why a Armor and a DeathLaser... His Blades And His Bad Ass look Does Everything for him..

...because a stab from a human sword (not energy sword) cannot puncture a 7 inch thick hide of pure steel....and lasers are awsome.

Come on you serious that big of a FanBrat...

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

....why am i a....fanbrat?....anyway why am i a fanbrat for loveing lasors.