What do you think id the most likely for interstellar transit
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I honestly couldn't give a christ...
But if I had to choose...
SPACE!
Yep. Riding on nyancat rainbows.
But if I had to choose...
SPACE!
Yep. Riding on nyancat rainbows.
Shit man, well most likely it is probably going to be the slow way, huge generational spaceships reaching as near as lightspeed as we can go. It'd still take awhile.
As far as FTL, not looking likely to me what with breaking some pretty fundamental rules of the physics and all. Even light speed would require the traveler/s to have zero mass. Stable wormholes? Yah, It's a possibility. It'd take awhile, the energy expendature of such a venture is quite a bit more than we have available, and with the most likely method we actually have to (as far as I understand it) fly an 'exit' gate out to wherever we want it to be (the sloooow way) before the wormhole would be open for business.
The stargates, as I always understood them they're wormholes more or less right? Same rules apply. No idea how mass relays are supposed to work though.
As far as FTL, not looking likely to me what with breaking some pretty fundamental rules of the physics and all. Even light speed would require the traveler/s to have zero mass. Stable wormholes? Yah, It's a possibility. It'd take awhile, the energy expendature of such a venture is quite a bit more than we have available, and with the most likely method we actually have to (as far as I understand it) fly an 'exit' gate out to wherever we want it to be (the sloooow way) before the wormhole would be open for business.
The stargates, as I always understood them they're wormholes more or less right? Same rules apply. No idea how mass relays are supposed to work though.
Unless we can find a way to work around all of this: http://www.cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html I doubt we'll be going far. I don't think people seem to grasp exactly how massive the distances are. To get to Mars it takes 18 months at best. Moon colony? Hell yeah. Anywhere else is going to take some real effort.
Actually, you couldn't accidentally create a black hole that sucks up our solar system. Even if you somehow managed to create a black hole stable enough that it didn't instantly evaporate, the very worst thing it would do is consume the earth. The moon would stay where it is. The planets wouldn't care. The sun would either. Because the total mass of the black hole would be no greater than the total mass of the Earth and the Earth, thus far, has not managed to devour the solar system.overpuce said:
In order to suck up the solar system, you'd need to generate a black hole of significant mass that simply isn't available. Simply causing massive disruptions that lead to planetary ejection would require considerably less mass but still far more than what you have between the earth and moon (and, if we're honest, the contents of the asteroid belt, Mars, Venus and Mercury.
Dude? Why pick FTL? It's the difference between flying between stars in
I do so love the Bussard Ramjet. It only needs the initial boosts, from there on out you suck up all you're fuel as it goes.
That's a ship based on Project Orion. It uses small nuclear bombs let off behind it to propel it. Yes, it's a spaceship propelled by bombs.
FTL is for chumps. STL is where it's at right now.
I know it's not FTL but:overpuce said:
I do so love the Bussard Ramjet. It only needs the initial boosts, from there on out you suck up all you're fuel as it goes.
That's a ship based on Project Orion. It uses small nuclear bombs let off behind it to propel it. Yes, it's a spaceship propelled by bombs.
FTL is for chumps. STL is where it's at right now.
Not. mass. relay. very much not. If I had to guess, either subspace or some kind of ftl drive. Maybe some kind of teleportation panel like a stargate. At least, since your limiting it to ftl. But I think we will go interstellar long before we go ftl. I think we will probably end up creating interstellar colonies. It's easy to go interstellar(relatively) if you have a population large enough for sustainable reproduction maintaining genetic diversity. Then it can take as long as it takes, we'll still get there eventually.
yeah, cuz humanity has never put any effort into travel. Do you realize that people traveled across ocean waters in CANOES? That takes a lot more balls than space travel IMO.Starik20X6 said:
Except who in their right mind would ever want to use generational ships?spartan231490 said:
Nope, we're gonna just have to do what we do best, stomp all over nature in the name of the bottom line and find a way to either circumvent or break the laws of physics so we can just zoop over to Betelguese to visit granny for breakfast. Laws and Rules are made to be broken, are they not?
I hear good things about quantum shit. Lots of things on the quantum level apparently defy known physics, so, hey, maybe we should be looking there?
We're already looking. We can quantum teleport bacteria a few inches. We are a long, long way off from ever teleporting a person across the universe. and a lot of people in this world would do generational ships. The chance to travel space is something a lot of people would give up a hell of a lot for. And that's not even accounting for those so poor they would do about anything for food, water, and a place to sleep, or what's going to happen if our population continues to skyrocket.Syzygy23 said:
I don't think it'll be done. Period. We'd have to travel millions of times faster than light to even think about true interstellar travel.
Thus, we'd have to use wormholes, but again, I don't think it can be done. I think we'll have to work with dear old Earth for now. Maybe the Moon and Mars in the (far) future, but definitely not farther.
Thus, we'd have to use wormholes, but again, I don't think it can be done. I think we'll have to work with dear old Earth for now. Maybe the Moon and Mars in the (far) future, but definitely not farther.
Out of them?
Wormholes - though that is even extremely unlikely.
Most likely is conventional ships with Cryostasis, taking hundreds or thousands of years to reach their destination.
Otherwise, I believe some people were studying a quantum effect where subatomic particles would simply disappear then re-appear in a new place [Don't quote me on that, could be wrong].
Mass Relays? Not going to happen.
Star Gates from memory were just wormhole machines.
Wormholes? Need to find/make them, then have them be stable.
Honestly, if you're looking for FTL speeds, its not likely to happen.
Wormholes - though that is even extremely unlikely.
Most likely is conventional ships with Cryostasis, taking hundreds or thousands of years to reach their destination.
Otherwise, I believe some people were studying a quantum effect where subatomic particles would simply disappear then re-appear in a new place [Don't quote me on that, could be wrong].
Mass Relays? Not going to happen.
Star Gates from memory were just wormhole machines.
Wormholes? Need to find/make them, then have them be stable.
Honestly, if you're looking for FTL speeds, its not likely to happen.
Er, citation needed there.spartan231490 said:
As for interstellar travel...well, travelling a bit under light speed could get you to the next system in only a few years. They used to have people sailing the seas for 2-3 years way back when, so there's sorta precedent for trips that long.
Otherwise...magic. Yeah, nothing other than magic works.
Robot microships that can approach near the speed of light, and hold a conscious form of Artificial Intelligence within themselves. And the likelihood of this is very relative to how impossible all the other solutions are, given our current understanding of physics.
OK, they haven't even gotten to bacteria yet. I had seen a paper years ago about successfully teleporting an atom where the experimenters believed that someone would achieve bacteria by like 2008 or 2009 so I just thought that we would have gotten there by now. But regardless, they are still working on it, and it will still be an excessively long time before we can teleport anything as complex as a human, anywhere near as far as from one solar system to another.thaluikhain said:
http://www.thestargarden.co.uk/17April11Teleportation.html
Some kind of anti-matter drive. You could conceivably accelerate a starship up to a fair percentage of light speed which would make at least the nearest stars reachable within a few years (six to ten or so). You'd still need your crew to be in some kind of induced coma or hibernation state though, and even at 60-70% light speed you're still going to encounter some serious time dilation effects. The other big problem of course is that anti-matter is insanely expensive - I think NASA once estimated that a single gram of anti-hydrogen would cost around $60 trillion. Still, all in all, it's at least plausible - more so at least than breaking fundamental laws of the universe in order to travel faster than light.
The only way I can see is to build a ship and send it off into space, then they live for generations while the spaceship slowly crawls across the galaxy and then the descendants of those people get to actually arrive at the destination.
Assuming nothing goes horribly wrong during that ridiculously long length of time and everybody dies.
Assuming nothing goes horribly wrong during that ridiculously long length of time and everybody dies.