What do you think is the greatest epic fail for humanity?

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archvile93

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I'd have to go with WWII as well. The Germans failed because they put that psycho in power. England and France failed because they just let Hitler run around Europe unchecked in the delusional hope that he'd eventually get bored and stop. The Russians failed because they actually thought they could make peace with Germany. We Americans failed because we somehow managed to think there was no way it could become our problem. The Japanese failed because they somehow thought they could go toe to toe with a world power. It was just one massive fail for everybody.
 

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Saelune said:
Religion. All of them. No single incident of death will ever do more damage than religion has. Their casualty numbers still going strong.
Hold it right there pilgrim. Saying that humanity would be better off if religion never existed is one of the most ignorant thing a person can say. Why? Because religion has been around has been around longer than complex society. It has motivated countless actions both good and bad, it has affected every civilization in one way or another. Religion has been so involved in the development of human society that it is impossible to tell whether we would be better or worse off if it never existed, no one I repeat NO ONE is qualified to make such a statement.
 

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Dont give me that crap. A mass murderer is still a horrible person, even if he saved one guy from being hit by a car. Do SOME people use religion to actually be better people? Sure. But a few people actually using religion for good doesnt change all the bad that it has also been used for.
Religion didn't make those people do those awful things. The thing about religion is that its open to interpretation and in their minds it was an excuse to act extremely crappy to others. People like that shouldn't be allowed near anything more dangerous than a tissue in the first place, even if the religion that validated their own thoughts didn't exist they still would have found another way to validate their beliefs.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Saelune said:
lacktheknack said:
Saelune said:
Religion. All of them. No single incident of death will ever do more damage than religion has. Their casualty numbers still going strong.
Why must you ruin a perfectly good thread with extremely personal (and small-picture) rhetoric? This is Off-Topic, save it for the Religion and Politics forum, where I can ignore it easier.

OT: Getting itself trapped in an unsupportable standard of living. Talk about lack of foresight.
I answered the question. Dont be upset because I am right. Just because WW2 is a game trope, doesnt mean it is also not a serious topic. This topic is about horrible flaws caused by humanity. This is a serious topic, even if phrased lightly. Maybe you just entered the wrong one.
Objectivity! And missing the point!

Blergh.
Maybe. Maybe not. I could theoreitcally be right, but its unlikely we would know. But sure, its objective. And if the point is you dont like arguing religion, then ignore me. Just think Im wrong or whatever and move on.
 

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Burning of the library of Alexandria, the destruction of Greek and Roman artifacts by the Catholic church, Too Big to Fail banks.
 

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Bouchie Bouch said:
Saelune said:
Religion. All of them. No single incident of death will ever do more damage than religion has. Their casualty numbers still going strong.
Hold it right there pilgrim. Saying that humanity would be better off if religion never existed is one of the most ignorant thing a person can say. Why? Because religion has been around has been around longer than complex society. It has motivated countless actions both good and bad, it has affected every civilization in one way or another. Religion has been so involved in the development of human society that it is impossible to tell whether we would be better or worse off if it never existed, no one I repeat NO ONE is qualified to make such a statement.
This whole thread is ignorant then. I see what religion does on a global scale. Its mostly bad. Its mostly murder. Its mostly opressing rights of everyone. I hear constant stories of the bad of religion, with most good things caused by religion being merely fluff tales that barely gets past the local news. I get tired of being put as the villian for hating something that has caused so much pain and suffering. But I get tired of what religion does more, so I guess I have to deal with it.
 

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http://www.cracked.com/article_18533_the-6-most-important-things-humanity-just-plain-forgot.html

This basically. It's incredible how many things humanity has just plain forgot on a collective scale. The cure for Scurvy is one of the bigger face-palms considering humanity has been a seafaring species for as long as we've been walking and talking.
 

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D.J. D.J. said:
Dont give me that crap. A mass murderer is still a horrible person, even if he saved one guy from being hit by a car. Do SOME people use religion to actually be better people? Sure. But a few people actually using religion for good doesnt change all the bad that it has also been used for.
Religion didn't make those people do those awful things. The thing about religion is that its open to interpretation and in their minds it was an excuse to act extremely crappy to others. People like that shouldn't be allowed near anything more dangerous than a tissue in the first place, even if the religion that validated their own thoughts didn't exist they still would have found another way to validate their beliefs.
Tell them that. Until religion makes ITSELF right, I will continue to voice my outrage at them. As long as rights and lives are abused in the name of God, I will complain.
 

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Sigh... If I'm being perfectly honest, I would definitely say religion too. I really don't want to bunch myself with a lot of the etremist atheists here though as I don't like offending religious people that have done nothing wrong, which will probably have me branded as a coward by the other athiests here, but so be it.

I get too gloomy in these threads... I've decided my real answer is the Snuggie [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xZp-GLMMJ0]
 

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Lol no but seriously, I would have to say the loss of the Library of Alexandria or Nikola Tesla's research.

As for WW2, it was a necessary war, and it brought us out of an economic crisis, it wasn't fought during an economic crisis (You'ld be surprised the amount of money and jobs war generates).
 

D.J. D.J.

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Until religion makes ITSELF right, I will continue to voice my outrage at them.
Its like I said, religion didn't do anything wrong and is meant to change people for the better.
As long as rights and lives are abused in the name of God, I will complain.
Fair enough but complain about the people responsible for making peoples lives hell not their scapegoat.
 

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Every little thing, god or bad has shaped the world into what it is today

I don't think humanity done to bad considering the circumstances.

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This topic would find a better fit in the Religion and Politics Discussion section. Humanities' greatest failures are both religious and political in nature...well, mostly. Money has been a major factor for said failures of Humanity for the last few centuries or so, especially in the case of Slavery.
 

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Saelune said:
Bouchie Bouch said:
Saelune said:
Religion. All of them. No single incident of death will ever do more damage than religion has. Their casualty numbers still going strong.
Hold it right there pilgrim. Saying that humanity would be better off if religion never existed is one of the most ignorant thing a person can say. Why? Because religion has been around has been around longer than complex society. It has motivated countless actions both good and bad, it has affected every civilization in one way or another. Religion has been so involved in the development of human society that it is impossible to tell whether we would be better or worse off if it never existed, no one I repeat NO ONE is qualified to make such a statement.
This whole thread is ignorant then. I see what religion does on a global scale. Its mostly bad. Its mostly murder. Its mostly opressing rights of everyone. I hear constant stories of the bad of religion, with most good things caused by religion being merely fluff tales that barely gets past the local news. I get tired of being put as the villian for hating something that has caused so much pain and suffering. But I get tired of what religion does more, so I guess I have to deal with it.
Well maybe you wouldn't be made the villain if you didn't generalize on such a gross scale. If you think that the main goal of all religions is to control others and to spread pain then sorry but you are wrong( though I am not going to deny that that has been the goal for some religions/religious leaders). Religion has been the cause for both good and bad things. Of course you're going to hear more about the bad than the good on the news, because tragedy gets ratings. You are in no position to claim that majority of what religion has caused or effected is negative because you are not aware of every action that has been influenced by religion no one is. And once again no one can say for a fact that humanity would be better or worse off if religion never existed
 

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Bags. If we were made to use bags, we would've been given three hands...


OT:
jacobschndr said:
In it, number one, was World War II, and I mostly agree. With over 77 million lives lost(estimated) in the period of less than ten years as well as economic collapse, the rise of global super powers and leading into the dawn of the cold war. All because a few rotten, truely evil, SOB's wanted to change the world to better fit their view of a "perfect" world.
I'd have to call that... bull. On account of WWI was even more pathetic. WW2 was largely caused by the residual resentment left over by WW1, and worsened by a bit of stupidity on the League of Nation's part (Which is politics, so, hey, what can you expect?). WW1 was caused by a bunch of relatively minor international tensions, a nutty and humongous series of alliances, one king who was slightly off his rocker, and plain old imperialism. (Contrary to popular belief, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand might not have even been the straw that broke the camel's back, and wasn't even supported at all by Serbia)
 

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D.J. D.J. said:
Until religion makes ITSELF right, I will continue to voice my outrage at them.
Its like I said, religion didn't do anything wrong and is meant to change people for the better.
As long as rights and lives are abused in the name of God, I will complain.
Fair enough but complain about the people responsible for making peoples lives hell not their scapegoat.
I will say this much, the media and general world view of "Religion" is seen as bad because that "bad stuff" is what catches the worlds attention, i.e., priest molesting boys, the crusades, the inquistions, etc. When we read about the "Faith" having a bad history, we're really reading about the "religion" being bad.

Faith and religion are two different things. Faith is hope and belief in the goodness or trustworthiness, of a person, concept or entity. Religion is a cultural system that establishes humanity to spirituality and moral values.

In lamen terms, faith is you, me and everyone elses private and personal belief in something or someone. Religion is a system of rules that are written to govern over your life "to make you better". To say faith is a Fail is not true. But religion is however, an Epic Fail.
 

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Saelune said:
Religion. All of them. No single incident of death will ever do more damage than religion has. Their casualty numbers still going strong.
Nope. Not falling for the bait. Troll elsewhere.

OT: I can't really pick anything individual, at least on a grand scale. All the events that have happened in the past have shaped us in ways that could be bad, good or both. We have know way to telling which way they influenced us, however, so some of our "fails" may have actually turned out to be good for us.

Individual fails are still pretty cut and dry though.