Addendum: You guys do know that the military isn't all infantry and guys with short haircuts shooting guns at everything that moves, right?
If not, I feel sorry for you.
If not, I feel sorry for you.
What do you think of US soldiers?
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We have little say in that. Part of our oath dictates that we "will obey the orders of the president of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me". We say or do otherwise we, at best, get a letter of reprimand, or, at worst, get tried for treason and possibly even court-martialed.Godavari said:
We don't make wars. Congress makes wars, the president approves them, and we get stuck doing all the dirty work, making sure their dumb asses have the power to make more wars in the future.
I should probably clarify. For those soldiers who were deployed the minute war was declared and haven't come home since, I have the utmost and highest respect.SageRuffin said:
However, since I do not support our current wars, I hold less respect for any soldier who joined after it started or failed to quit when they got the chance.
There are, of course, exceptions for those who'd be impoverished if they weren't in the military. I pity those individuals.
Yeah, it's totally murder when someone tells you that you have to fight and kill other people and it's obvious that YOU CAN GET KILLED, volunteer to go and possibly get yourself killed, and then get killed by someone who's over on the other side of the fence but have been told the same thing. It's not like people just get forcefully taken over there. Murder is getting killed un-voluntarily. If you don't wanna get killed, DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY.Jonesy911 said:
I find jackasses that go off and tell people that are risking their lives for what they believe is right a monster, idiot and the lowest form of scum around. I can smell teenage angst all the way across the internet.EspirituExterminatus said:
When I worked at a gas station I called one I went to high school with an emotionless prick and he broke my wrist.
OT: They're good people for the most part. Offering up their own safety for that of others is pretty selfless. Doesn't stop them from getting massacred by the very people they're striving to protect in Iraq.
OT: They're good people for the most part. Offering up their own safety for that of others is pretty selfless. Doesn't stop them from getting massacred by the very people they're striving to protect in Iraq.
You had the choice in whether or not you took that oath, so you had plenty of say.SageRuffin said:
If you believe that a terrorist dislikes the United States simply because they live in a different section of the world, then I beg you to question this belief. The United States has involved itself in countless wars in the Middle East. The easiest examples are the Iran-Contra affair, putting Saddam Hussein in power, and arming the Mujahideen during the Soviet-Afghan war. I'd imagine that a terrorist has more of a grudge for the United States meddling in the affairs of the Middle East, then a simple hatred for geography.
I think too much is expected of them, after months maybe years of combat training they're off to fight, usually its over quick and that same soldier is now required to rebuild the place hejust conquered. Now not only is he a police man, he's a teacher, a doctor, a engineer, a press consult, human relations officer, negotitor, the list goes on. Soldiers arent soldiers anymore far more is required of them an i think they deserve respect, its a tough job and they volunteered to do it.
I have a lot of respect for servicemen. They put their lives in harm's away so that I will never have to on my own soil.
However, a few people I know, all of whom are, or were, U.S. Marines, have an attitude I just cannot stand. If you're in there and you chose to be there, great. Just don't shove in my face that you're so awesome and better than the other three branches of the U.S. military who are also active combatants.
I also don't like ROTC kids in high school. They're arrogant and think they're so hardcore. But at least they get a rude awakening when they actually go into the service. Then they get knocked down a peg and usually aren't so arrogant.
However, a few people I know, all of whom are, or were, U.S. Marines, have an attitude I just cannot stand. If you're in there and you chose to be there, great. Just don't shove in my face that you're so awesome and better than the other three branches of the U.S. military who are also active combatants.
I also don't like ROTC kids in high school. They're arrogant and think they're so hardcore. But at least they get a rude awakening when they actually go into the service. Then they get knocked down a peg and usually aren't so arrogant.
I had plenty to say about policies I didn't even know about when I signed up? Yeah, okay, whatever. ¬__¬ParticleBliss said:
But even so, you do know that the military isn't a bunch of mindless, emotionless fuckwits with nothing better to do that sit in a corner jabbering to themselves while they nurse an M-16, right?
I don't agree with a lot of shit that goes on here, but I agree enough to shut the hell up and do what I'm told. Sure, I'm not on the front lines trying to flush out some random dickhole with enough explosives to turn a city into a lake, but I still do my job because that's what I'm supposed to do. And even with you on the outside, if you're told to do something, you do it because that's your fucking job. You don't do it and what happens? You get in trouble, or at least a stern talking to.
So you can't fault infantrymen but so much for following orders. What about the guys who didn't wanna be on the front lines and got stuck there thanks to extenuating circumstances. Sure, they signed up to join the service, but not to fight. Would that be their fault?
im a Floridian if that matters, and i view highly of soldiers, i plan to become a marine in 5 years when i turn 18, maybe go to a college for it, but thats just a thought, im definitely joining the marines one way or another. U.S military personell are all well thought of here in union park, and i am one of their supporters.
Why didn't research your job before you joined?SageRuffin said:
Having lived on base for most of my life and being part of a military family (father is ex-USAF, grandfather is ex-CRAF, great-grandfather was Royal Army), then being set to join the military until recently (as in, I was a month away from being sent to Parris Island), yeah, I do.SageRuffin said:
Yes, it would be their fault, because they should have known that being on frontline service was a definite possibility. It's not like it's explicitly stated in the contract you sign, the oath you take, and also being one of the major reasons why the military exists.SageRuffin said:
I do what my job tells me to do, because I agree with what my job has me doing. I joined my current occupation because I believe in what it stands for. If it turns out that my job asks me do to something that I don't believe is morally right, then I'll take whatever punishment they deal out, rather than turn my back on my own beliefs.
I'm proud of them. Also I'm from a very anti war state (Massachusetts) so I'm pretty rare, but I still love the heck out of them. I wouldn't join since I don't have that kind of mentallity and I am very smart (or so I've been told) so I feel that I would do better outside the military.
You honestly think that simple research would tell me everything I needed to know? Are you seriously asking me this?ParticleBliss said:
You know what? Don't answer that. I'm done with you; I don't know why I even wasted my time with this.
I like the soldiers but hate their discriminatory rule against allowing people with Asperger's Syndrome in the military. I guess their reasoning is it's too hard to replace us if we get killed where as high school football players are grown in abundance.
