What do you want in the next fallout?

[Daddy Go Bot]

Do not have it set in America again! Have it somewhere like Australia instead!

Fallout is never gonna be set outside of America for obvious reasons.

 

[NotSoLoneWanderer]

On-Topic: Obsidian Entertainment. They know how to actually make a good Fallout game, unlike Bethesda.

Great here we go agin, ok what was your problem with fallout 3.(i will humor you)

Here's a summation of the general fallout fan's views of fallout 3.

It's a perfectly good game. Great, even.

But compared to New Vegas, it doesn't feel "Fallout" enough. 3's focus on karma and moral choice was a significant departure from the feel of previous fallout games. It made sense in the story (everyone in DC was either a psychopath/monster/enclave or a possible victim of psychopath/monster/enclave.), but it didn't fit right.

New Vegas's story and refinement of 3's gameplay made it considerably more popular among fallout fans, despite it's technical flaws. Some people even think of Obsidian in a "My Real Daddy" sort of sense.

Perhaps if New Vegas was called Fallout 3, and Fallout 3 was instead called "FalloutC" or something, everyone'd be happier.

Wow that was 100X move civilized then i expected it to be. I accept that responce although I disagree with it a bit.

wich brings me to my sugestion MORAL GRAY AREAS in the main story line. Seriously this is one of the things that NV did Worse then f3 and in wich both games are bad. I think the Enclave had a way beter moral leg to stand on then ceasers legion. I mean "hmm i wonders whos side ill be on, the side of the slightly corrupt government or the side of the army of cosplayers whos leader is sick and whos lutenient is an insane psyopath

Remember what the Enclave was doing in fallout1 and 2?

 

[Keith Reedy]

On-Topic: Obsidian Entertainment. They know how to actually make a good Fallout game, unlike Bethesda.

Great here we go agin, ok what was your problem with fallout 3.(i will humor you)

Let's see:

Story was an absolute joke with virtually no choice given to the player character (Shit, it might as well have been a completely different franchise).

The characters were laughable at best; completely one-dimensional and almost cartoony in a sense with zero depth given to them.

Bethesda didn't seem to understand the concept of dark humor, which is a fairly major thing in the Fallout franchise.

They completely ruined the lore in regards to the Enclave, the BoS and the F.E.V.... I'd even go as far as to say that they butchered the BoS.

Really, there are several other things too, but I'll just leave it as this for the time being.

Three Words: Stay. in America.

A setting in Europe would not only remove what made Fallout Fallout but also would break the lore. Europe and most of the rest of the world is gone, it was bombed to hell, like three or so times. (Not talking one bomb drop, but many bombs dropped each time.)

This guy actually gets it. Bravo.

I'm gonna say first off we're not gonna agree on much so I'm gonna say what I agree with first.

The story was yeah pretty meh, and the dark humour definitely dropped several notches but I still enjoyed the game. I have enjoyed all the fallout games greatly.

Now that thats out a the way,
I don't see how they messed up the Enclave, other then perhaps they were supposed to be gone after 2 or somethin, The BoS wasn't slaughtered although the outcasts were a better representation of the actual BoS and Lyons groups should have been the real outcasts.It is mentioned that they are seperated from the western BoS.
After consulting the wiki... Please tell me how they F@#$ up the FEV

The setting could go out of the US sure the other areas were more devastated but that could be a good reason to go there since the US is getting back on its feet(slowly but surely) they could go out to the rest of the world and find it is just shit full of subhuman mutants and wildlife from the areas that didn't have anything to bomb. Ya know.

But seriously how did they mess up the FEV

In regards to the Enclave, weren't they supposed to dead? What the hell are they doing in D.C.? Bethesda resurrected a faction because they couldn't pull something original out their rectum; fine, whatever.

The Brotherhood of Steel: Why are they also in D.C.? When did they suddenly become a bunch of white knight purists? Why am I forced to side with them?

Speaking of D.C., why are there super mutants here? They're not supposed to stretch out that far.

The F.E.V. was supposed to only be in California.

All in all, those were some major lore inconsistencies.

Its not that hard for me to believe that an organization that was as strong as the enclave had a base in more than one part of the nation, its more of a minor inconsistency as is the FEV being somewhere else, its only hard to believe if you think VaultTech is trustworthy so again minor inconsistency.

The Super mutants are of a different variety than what was out west and come from were vaulttech had smuggled away some FEV for there own experiments, so thats not really inconsistent at all.

I agree about the brotherhood lyons group should have been the outcasts and the supposed bos outcasts should have been the bos. Having to work with them is a lack of choices on the developers part not a lore inconsistency.

 

[ciasteczkowyp]

a) Another company making it, bethesda has proven to be a tragic dev when it comes to delivering quality product.
b) A return to the original setting or even a prequel to FO.

 

[Wintermoot]

less bugs and more grey/grey morality.
also remaking FO1/2 would make a interesting game.

 

[thehermit2]

More vaults. I love vaults. Vault 11 from Fallout New Vegas is my favorite so far, but even vaults like Gary's vault (forget the number) from Fallout 3 are fun to investigate. I love getting the story in pieces from old notes and hacked computers. Vaults need to be bigger and take longer to investigate and have more backstory. Also traps and monsters whose presence are explained by whatever screwed up nonsense was happening in the vault. It's like the science-fiction equivalent of dungeon crawls.

Also, horses from Oblivion would be nice. But what would be even nicer is a motorcycle, or an ATV, or maybe one of those flying motorcycles from M.A.S.K. or Megaforce. Or something goofier like a little girl's bike or a inexplicably functional Segway scooter.

 

[spartandude]

I want Barry Island!

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

Its not that hard for me to believe that an organization that was as strong as the enclave had a base in more than one part of the nation, its more of a minor inconsistency as is the FEV being somewhere else, its only hard to believe if you think VaultTech is trustworthy so again minor inconsistency.

The Super mutants are of a different variety than what was out west and come from were vaulttech had smuggled away some FEV for there own experiments, so thats not really inconsistent at all.

I agree about the brotherhood lyons group should have been the outcasts and the supposed bos outcasts should have been the bos. Having to work with them is a lack of choices on the developers part not a lore inconsistency.

"Well...uhhh... they secretly hid more F.E.V. somewhere in D.C." is honestly something I'd expect from a bad fanfic, not professional developers. It's been a while since I played the old Fallout games, but I'm fairly sure it was made pretty clear that the F.E.V. was a one time thing. Finding it in D.C. really makes no sense.

As for the Enclave, while they were surely not completely wiped out in Fallout 2, but them suddenly gaining new bases out in the East Coast with such a sizable army was just flat out silly. Again, while not wiped out, they were not supposed to be such a major threat as they were in Fallout 3. It's like finding out the Empire had a 2nd Death Star all along.

I get the feeling in my gut that your like one of the 7 people that will go on forums and defend Interply judging by your responce.

Way to forfeit the argument there, bro. But no, I'm not a fan of Interplay. They ruined Fallout with that sub-par console game (And even wanting to make a sequel).

I'm surprised they're still around, even though they're only a shell of what they used to be.

 

[Deus mortuus est]

I'd like to see a MMO in the Fallout universe. The story is already there, just have the player choose a faction and dump them in the wasteland (or wherever), then it's a battle for the few resources there is.

Perhaps someone finds oil, or a spring with clean water. The raiders, slavers, brotherhood and the enclave would all fight for such things.

 

[Keith Reedy]

Its not that hard for me to believe that an organization that was as strong as the enclave had a base in more than one part of the nation, its more of a minor inconsistency as is the FEV being somewhere else, its only hard to believe if you think VaultTech is trustworthy so again minor inconsistency.

The Super mutants are of a different variety than what was out west and come from were vaulttech had smuggled away some FEV for there own experiments, so thats not really inconsistent at all.

I agree about the brotherhood lyons group should have been the outcasts and the supposed bos outcasts should have been the bos. Having to work with them is a lack of choices on the developers part not a lore inconsistency.

"Well...uhhh... they secretly hid more F.E.V. somewhere in D.C." is honestly something I'd expect from a bad fanfic, not professional developers. It's been a while since I played the old Fallout games, but I'm fairly sure it was made pretty clear that the F.E.V. was a one time thing. Finding it in D.C. really makes no sense.

As for the Enclave, while they were surely not completely wiped out in Fallout 2, but them suddenly gaining new bases out in the East Coast with such a sizable army was just flat out silly. Again, while not wiped out, they were not supposed to be such a major threat as they were in Fallout 3. It's like finding out the Empire had a 2nd Death Star all along.

I get the feeling in my gut that your like one of the 7 people that will go on forums and defend Interply judging by your responce.

Way to forfeit the argument there, bro. But no, I'm not a fan of Interplay. They ruined Fallout with that sub-par console game (And even wanting to make a sequel).

I'm surprised they're still around, even though they're only a shell of what they used to be.

Yes tell he he forfeited his argument in my experience "Well...uhhh... they secretly hid more F.E.V. somewhere in D.C." derp and being a dick when someone gives a actual reason that works in the lore is much harder on your arguament there pal. Since you didn't give any real dispute to my FEV argument I'll just let it stand.

To be honest your just a fan blinded by nestalgia who will never be happy. Thats what you seem like to me. FEV wasn't in any of the fallout games made out as a one time thing if it was show me.

I enjoyed 1 and 2 and 3 and tactics and new vegas I'm sorry you didn't. For what its worth I wish they had made vanburen and 3 it would have been awesome.

 

[psicat]

A return to DC, and Bethesda making it.

 

[Stephen Wo]

Set in Havana, Cuba, but with a 60s feel rather than a 50s one.

 

[The Rockerfly]

Fresh story, I liked 3's but I know many NV fans hated it so a fresh new story would be needed.

New Vegas' story was fresh.

Fallout 1 was about The Master using FEV to create the next, perfect evolution of huamnity.

Fallout 2 was about the Enclave using FEV to destroy the people of the mainland.

Fallout 3 was about the Enclave using FEV to destroy the people of the mainland. (that sounds very familiar).

Fallout: New Vegas was about the political turmoil of the Mojave, and the war between the NCR and Caesar's Legion.

I'm talking completely out of the current fallout universe. Set in someone not done much by games in generally. London for an example

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

Yes tell he he forfeited his argument in my experience "Well...uhhh... they secretly hid more F.E.V. somewhere in D.C." derp and being a dick when someone gives a actual reason that works in the lore is much harder on your arguament there pal. Since you didn't give any real dispute to my FEV argument I'll just let it stand.

To be honest your just a fan blinded by nestalgia who will never be happy. Thats what you seem like to me. FEV wasn't in any of the fallout games made out as a one time thing if it was show me.

I enjoyed 1 and 2 and 3 and tactics and new vegas I'm sorry you didn't. For what its worth I wish they had made vanburen and 3 it would have been awesome.

Did you just take my argument with TheBear17 out of context? It has nothing to with what were discussing. And what you just typed literally makes no sense, what so ever.

But fine, there's more F.E.V. scattered across America just for the sake of it - Whatever.

Like Tim Cain said, instead of rehashing old content, Bethesda should just have come up with something new and original.

I enjoyed Fallout 1, 2, Tactics and New Vegas. I'll even admit Fallout 3 was a fairly fun video game, but an absolutely atrocious Fallout game (Keyword being 'Fallout' game).

 

[Deus mortuus est]

I'd like to see a MMO in the Fallout universe. The story is already there, just have the player choose a faction and dump them in the wasteland (or wherever), then it's a battle for the few resources there is.

Perhaps someone finds oil, or a spring with clean water. The raiders, slavers, brotherhood and the enclave would all fight for such things.

http://www.fallout-on-line.com/

Aha! Thanks a lot. Now I play the waiting game...

 

[Daddy Go Bot]

I'd like to see a MMO in the Fallout universe. The story is already there, just have the player choose a faction and dump them in the wasteland (or wherever), then it's a battle for the few resources there is.

Perhaps someone finds oil, or a spring with clean water. The raiders, slavers, brotherhood and the enclave would all fight for such things.

http://www.fallout-on-line.com/

Aha! Thanks a lot. Now I play the waiting game...

If it's gonna be made by Interplay there's no reason to even bother. It's doomed to fail.