What does evil do when it wins?

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ChildishLegacy

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I'm talking about the type of evil like in Lord of the Rings. The good side tend to fight against the oppression of the evil who want to do nothing but kill and start an "age of darkness", but what I've always questioned is what goes on in somewhere like middle-earth when there's nothing left but Lord Sauron and a bunch of orcs? Can they even still be evil and cause darkness when there are only evil creatures left, or do they keep a few hobbits around just so they can be evil to them?

This is one of my major annoyances when it comes to a lot of fantasy, the "dark side" always want nothing but destruction with no real goal after that, whereas the good side always have a bit more depth to their aims other than "win and conquer".
 

Bassik

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I saw in Megamind that the villain gets bored, accidently makes a bigger villain and then has to fight this new villain and become the anti-hero.

Seemed perfectly logical to me.
 

Rastien

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A true nihilist evil villian would destroy not only everything but himself along with it.

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Dryk

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This is why I wouldn't kill the hero. It gives you something to do after you conqueror the world, something that's less boring than having to run the world.
 

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I've always just imagined it would just end up like Mordor, everyone continues to kill each other for the sake of it, until they're pretty much all dead, then the world starts over anew.

Actually that would be an awesome premise for a fantasy book or game: The bad guy has won, all civilisation has been overrun and destroyed, and then the evil minions turned on each other until they were all killed. You play one of the first of a new race of people stepping out into this destroyed, deserted fantasy world. Trying to survive until the plants and wildlife replenish themselves and exploring the desolation of the old world to try and discover what happened. It could even end with the birth of a new evil, that would probably eventually destroy your new world.
 

Matthew Kjonaas

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true evil will not stop after all good in the world is gone they will just find a way to still be evil.
 

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Yeah I've always figured if the villain is pure evil, it'll just turn on it's own minions after everything is else is dead, then maybe kill it's self because it has nothing to fuel it's evilness?

This is why I prefer conquering villains, they don't want to destroy everything, they just want to RULE everything. Then the answer after they win is obvious, they rule, and they can rule until the day they die, or some hero rises up to overthrow them.

Or like Bassik says, do what Megamind does and accidently make a new villain.
 

Bobic

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Some men aren't looking for anything logical. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
 

DJjaffacake

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I'm pretty sure in the Lord of the Rings Sauron wanted to enslave everyone rather than kill them, so I guess he'd just lord it over everyone and industrialise everything.
 

Able Seacat

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Would they eventually cancel themselves out? So being evil until everything was destroyed and dark but then they hate that too so they destroy evil with good. Actually that thought doses't make much sense. Umm..

 

HardkorSB

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In Krull, the beast had a spaceship and he went to other planets and destroyed other civilizations. The universe is so big that he would never run out of things to kill.

In Lord of the Rings, Saruman had already started to build machines. Sauron could just get another evil genius(es) and make them work until they make something that could leave Earth. I don't think he would die of old age so he could wait a few centuries, I guess.

I can see it now - Mordor Space Program.
"One small step for an orc, one giant leap for evil."
 

Timberwolf0924

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I love how everyone thinks the badguy is going to kill themselves.. I doubt that..

BUT!

The way I see it, they still run a still evil existance. Slowly consuming all resources and taking lands their own.
Sooner or later, there's going to be a group that wants to break away and be their own evil group, so they start a civil war. Through the civil war their leader hunts vampire a group of "good guys" will be born, if they win or lose it's going to be a constant thing.

The opressors will always fight groups of the oppressed.
 

Akytalusia

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they become the new standard, and as long as their reign is oppressive, the discontent of their subjects will incubate resistance, and ultimately, new heroes will rise against them. this cycle repeats until the standard rule's oppression is not significantly perceived.
 
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I'd assume they keep some people around as slaves, they probably expand further into the world. They establish their own cities, trade routes, and grow as a society.

There are very few truly destructive bad guys in fiction. Even when the motivation is 'rake over the world' that does still give them something to do when they win, because then they have to rule the world.

It's like asking 'what would the Nazis have done if they'd won?' Well they'd have gone on much the same as they did in Germany pre-WWII. Establish big Roman-influenced architecture, oppress and kill anyone who didn't agree with them, set about making the millennium empire they dreamed of.

What did the COmmunist Party do in China when they 'won.' They set up a government and ruled the country with an iron fist. What did Kim Jong Il I do when he 'won.' Set up a government with himself as supreme ruler.