What does evil do when it wins?

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SirPlindington

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Then they just live in utter decadence until the end of time. They've won. They'll round up the good citizens, make them into slaves, and then spread across and wreck the world until they all die out. The end.
 

Doclector

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Well, create a utopian playland of course.

Seriously, it depends on the villain in question. Some may have a particular vision of the world they wish to build and run. Some may simply enjoy the pain of others, and will keep the world running simply for a constant supply of victims. Some may have a singular goal, and after that, who knows? Maybe they'd go and live a quiet life.

Of course, for some, it's simply that they could take over the world. They did it because they could, to prove something, or just for the hell of it.
 

Rednog

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You freeze the hero in carbonite and do lines of coke off them, duh.
I mean what else would you do? I guess you could hollow out the skull of the heroes friends and family and use them as ornaments or make a bitchin' goblet.
 

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Maybe they start looking elsewhere to invade like using your Lord of hte Ring example, they start to inade that Elf haven place that Frodo and co went at the end. If Sauron did suceed with that than maybe they start to advance their technologies to the point of reaching outer space so then they can invade other sentient life forms.
 

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I've always thought that all the orcs and goblins would find themselves some nice wives, and settle down for a peaceful life of farming in homesteads across Rohan and Gondor. Or alternatively, the evil collapses as it isn't sustainable and the lieutenants fight it out between themselves, presenting a chance for the good guys to win again.
 

Fluffythepoo

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I thought the master plan of all evil things after the eradication of good was to settle down in a small town and bake sugar cookies
 

Roganzar

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Roll around in their piles of money, gold, whatever, while eating delicious cake.
After that find a new hero to beat cuz their bored.
 

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Fluffythepoo said:
I thought the master plan of all evil things after the eradication of good was to settle down in a small town and bake sugar cookies
What a horrible world that would be, Sugar cookies are awful.
 

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There's no such thing as evil, just different cultures and moral outlooks. The Orcs in Lord of the Rings might be a bunch of destructive backstabbers but that doesn't make them any more 'evil' than Hobbits who are a bunch of jolly loafer. The Orcs probably look down on Hobbits for lacking Orcish qualities. If the Orks were to win the war and spread across the world, their culture would become defacto and all other cultures would be considered evil, degenerate, dispicable, etc.
 

burningdragoon

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Well let's see, in Final Fantasy VI...


Kefka becomes a god and sets off an apocalypse (more as a result of becoming a god than him directly destroying the world. After which he creates a tower for himself to rule the now ruined world and occasionally smites people who oppose him... or sometimes just for fun.
 
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realize that running THE WORLD is very tedious and difficult and proceed to delegate most of their powers to others and then sit in there base laughing maniacally
 

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Their plans don't just stop after victory, but since you asked Lord of the Rings, they'd enslave the rest of the races into servitude and basically something big, we are never really clued into why they fight if I remember correctly.
 

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Yeah that's part of why "evil" always sounds a bit childish to me...
If that is all that "describes" a character, they really have no purpose and are just some generic non-specific villain. Something that has nothing to do with reality and that just collapses like a card house if you think about it.

It's hard to understand why "evil" is used so prominently in the english language by adults to describe real-life things and meant to be taken seriously.
"Evil" is something that belongs in shitty fantasy novels.
That dungeons and dragons movie started off with a monologue that mentioned the "evil king" and I remember how me and my peers were laughing at how cheesy that sounded and you really can't help but sound overly melodramatic when calling something "evil".
 

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Midgeamoo said:
I'm talking about the type of evil like in Lord of the Rings. The good side tend to fight against the oppression of the evil who want to do nothing but kill and start an "age of darkness", but what I've always questioned is what goes on in somewhere like middle-earth when there's nothing left but Lord Sauron and a bunch of orcs? Can they even still be evil and cause darkness when there are only evil creatures left, or do they keep a few hobbits around just so they can be evil to them?

This is one of my major annoyances when it comes to a lot of fantasy, the "dark side" always want nothing but destruction with no real goal after that, whereas the good side always have a bit more depth to their aims other than "win and conquer".
Sauron's goal was to wage war against the Maiar and Valar, and invade Valinor where he would meet the same fate as Melkor - cast into the void, with his forces scattered. The various players of the Third Age weren't fighting for 'good,' or 'evil,' they were fighting for the control of Middle-Earth. There was nothing ahead of Sauron except a quest for more power.

Saruman would have been destroyed regardless of other events, either by Gandalf, Galadriel, Elrond, or Sauron.

It should also be noted that Gandalf and the other Istari would have certainly been the equals of Sauron without the One Ring. Since Gandalf bore one of the Elven rings, Middle-Earth was in no real danger of falling to Sauron.
 

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Was actually wondering that the other day. Or particularly what Voldemort would do if he would have won and once the euphoria had worn off, what would he do?

Does he have a long term political plan? I was thinking that he would of course kill all those he deemed unfit for his society (blood traitors and mudbloods by his account), and once that was done, standing on top of his fallen enemies, surrounded by devoted followers but not a single friend, punctuating that hammered love moral of Rowling. Reminds me of this gem from 'A very potter musical':

"You would think that killing people would make them like you...but it doesn't. It just makes them dead."

And after quite some time as Supreme Ruler of All an Everything, he would let his minions do the maiming and torturing, get himself a comfy desk job position, take three hour lunch and perhaps take up the magical equivalent of golfing.
 

Mylinkay Asdara

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Same thing that good does when it wins - carry out their attitude until the opposite comes up again and then battle it. That's the nature of opposing forces, they aren't much of anything without the opposite force to define them. Thing is, once one has been utterly wiped out they aren't contrasted by anything anymore and therefore cease being what they were and become simply a kind of status-quo. Luckily for both sides, total destruction of the opposing alignment isn't possible in the long term and so the struggle is never-ending and they get to continue being defined by one another.
 

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RvLeshrac said:
Midgeamoo said:
I'm talking about the type of evil like in Lord of the Rings. The good side tend to fight against the oppression of the evil who want to do nothing but kill and start an "age of darkness", but what I've always questioned is what goes on in somewhere like middle-earth when there's nothing left but Lord Sauron and a bunch of orcs? Can they even still be evil and cause darkness when there are only evil creatures left, or do they keep a few hobbits around just so they can be evil to them?

This is one of my major annoyances when it comes to a lot of fantasy, the "dark side" always want nothing but destruction with no real goal after that, whereas the good side always have a bit more depth to their aims other than "win and conquer".
Sauron's goal was to wage war against the Maiar and Valar, and invade Valinor where he would meet the same fate as Melkor - cast into the void, with his forces scattered. The various players of the Third Age weren't fighting for 'good,' or 'evil,' they were fighting for the control of Middle-Earth. There was nothing ahead of Sauron except a quest for more power.

Saruman would have been destroyed regardless of other events, either by Gandalf, Galadriel, Elrond, or Sauron.

It should also be noted that Gandalf and the other Istari would have certainly been the equals of Sauron without the One Ring. Since Gandalf bore one of the Elven rings, Middle-Earth was in no real danger of falling to Sauron.
I wasn't exactly asking about the Lord of the Rings plot in specific. It was more what would Sauron do when he had all the power he could acquire? What does one do when they have conquered everything?

It would just be a few orcs and Sauron hanging about and the orcs would be "LOL, remember that one time you lost your ring, good times"
 

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Well I think evil would tax the poor while giving tax breaks to the rich, undereducate the young while telling people "they are our future", spread their evil to other countries and... hang on a second!!!!

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Hero in a half shell said:
Actually that would be an awesome premise for a fantasy book or game: The bad guy has won, all civilisation has been overrun and destroyed, and then the evil minions turned on each other until they were all killed. You play one of the first of a new race of people stepping out into this destroyed, deserted fantasy world. Trying to survive until the plants and wildlife replenish themselves and exploring the desolation of the old world to try and discover what happened. It could even end with the birth of a new evil, that would probably eventually destroy your new world.
Or practically every post-apocalyptic work of fiction ever.