I came in this thread hoping somebody would have posted some pictures of sexy goth girls. Yes I miss the style, but it seems that goth has been absorbed into the emo style. Unfortunate, emo just feels like lazy goth to me.
what ever happened to goths?
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Visigoths or Ostrogoths?
I think they got captured and imprisoned into Age of Empires 2...
Visigoths or Ostrogoths?
I think they got captured and imprisoned into Age of Empires 2...
Most goths just grew out of it as they got older and acquired jobs. I remember back in High School the goths and emos was the only group of people who were pleasant to hang around with, though I wasn't either myself. Miles better than the chavs that dominated the population at any rate. One of my best friends was a goth during that time, that was probably why I was so welcomed by the group.
If you ever went to a Combichrist concert, you'd be surrounded by Goths. When I saw them last year, I was one of the few non-Goths in the venue. Since I'm a Metalhead, I fit in well enough. Those two subcultures seem to mesh pretty nicely.
Well, like all subcultures, eventually they moved on.
They are still around though, last year a random goth couple was beaten to within an inch of their lives on a tram in Manchester. Perhaps all the bullshit finally drove them even further underground? I just dont know. I do like the visual style of emos and scene peeps though, not that I have met any since I left college and most of them had no common ground with me, bar depression (With the emos) and liking AFI (With the scene peoples). And I found that hanging around people whos common ground with you was a general level of misery is bad for EVERYONES health.
They are still around though, last year a random goth couple was beaten to within an inch of their lives on a tram in Manchester. Perhaps all the bullshit finally drove them even further underground? I just dont know. I do like the visual style of emos and scene peeps though, not that I have met any since I left college and most of them had no common ground with me, bar depression (With the emos) and liking AFI (With the scene peoples). And I found that hanging around people whos common ground with you was a general level of misery is bad for EVERYONES health.
I don't know really. I have like one or two legitimate goth girls in my neighborhood, but one is only 14 and the other is 22. Other than that, I've tried goth a couple years ago, but as a teenager I was busy bouncing around randomly between styles. First it was rock, then it was goth, then I went for a...*shudders* "Normal" look, and then I went straight into emo. After that I decided that focusing so hard on my style and clique was a waste of time and have since just been stuck in some limbo between all those styles, simply wearing and acting however I want, listening to largely metal music and some other bands that aren't metal like Say Anything.
Well, first they were subdued by the Huns, but a group of Goths led by Fritigern fled across the Danube, later revolting against the Roman Empire and achieving a decisive victory. In the 5th-6th century, they split into two separate cliques, the visigoths and the ostrogoths.
The ostrogoths revolted against the huns, established a kingdom in Italy, and eventually controlled the whole peninsula, though after their king's death, they were shattered by the Eastern Roman Empire and eventually absorbed by the Lombards.
The visigoths, meanwhile, sacked Rome, established a kingdom, were eventually pushed to modern day Spain by the Franks, and converted to catholicism. Eventually, around the middle ages, the goth fad died, and they evolved into modern day Spain and Portugal.
The ostrogoths revolted against the huns, established a kingdom in Italy, and eventually controlled the whole peninsula, though after their king's death, they were shattered by the Eastern Roman Empire and eventually absorbed by the Lombards.
The visigoths, meanwhile, sacked Rome, established a kingdom, were eventually pushed to modern day Spain by the Franks, and converted to catholicism. Eventually, around the middle ages, the goth fad died, and they evolved into modern day Spain and Portugal.
Yes very true, Goth has been around for at least thirty years.albino boo said:
The whole Goth phrase began in Britain's Post-Punk scene, and spreading into it's own genre and subculture by the early 80's. Bands such as Siouxxie and the Banshees and Joy Division (who are considered the forefathers of Goth), paved the way for bands like Bauhaus, The Cult, The Cure, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and The Sisters of Mercy. Gothic Rock is often described as Post-Punk with dark lyrics and meanings, such as Death, Isolation, and Sexual Mutilation.
Nowadays, due to the original 80's Gothic Rock scene decline, the Gothic subculture have moved on to other musical genres such as Industrial, which has links to the original Post-Punk scene of the late 70's.
Emo on the other hard was the American Answer to Britain's Gothic scene that emerged from the Post-Hardcore Punk scene in the mid 80's. It was considered Hardcore punk with Emotional lyrics, and vocals. It wasn't a huge scene at all (kinda like the New York No-Wave scene of the 70's, or the British Shoegazing scene of the 90's), but it got resurgence in the mid 00's when it was infused with a pop punk base, which was considered popular at the time. This gave it a mass mainstream appeal, and thus a subculture was born.
I hope you enjoyed the history lesson, kiddies.
I barely see anyone like that outside metal concerts these days, which is too bad. In Uppsala at any rate.Angelowl said:
They turned into emos, which turned into scene kids which then turned into swagaholics.
But i'm just talking out of my ass, I still see the 'fashion' every now and then but I no longer see packs of goths roaming around the mall.
But i'm just talking out of my ass, I still see the 'fashion' every now and then but I no longer see packs of goths roaming around the mall.
Goths are still around. Some of us just don't dress it 100% of the time. Mine is mostly I don't have the money to go out and buy a new wardrobe and I have no talent sewing whatsoever as everything I try to sew tends to fall apart after a few days or so. And it really depends on where you are. There is a goth day every year at Disneyland out here. Though that even is starting to fade out but that's more how Disney is starting to treat us(like shit as opposed to tolerance). But we're around lurking in the shadows(bad pun I know but still fairly accurate). Most have jobs where we can't look it.
Goths are still around. However..
1) Noone gets dressed up to hang around on the street past the age of 18. The only reason to do that is because you're not old enough to get into clubs, and all the goths are. Go to a goth club, you will see goths.
2) There aren't really a new generation of younger goths, partly because emo kind of stole the teenage-angst thunder and partly because my generation (mid to late 20s) never felt much identification with the 80s, so we all became cybergoths or rivetheads or metallers.
All of the goths I know who are my age only got into goth through metal or industrial or some other "alternative" style. Your typical trad goth or new romantic is well into their 30s if not 40s now.
3) The fashion elements tend to get toned down as people get older, particularly for guys, as it impacts on the ability to get jobs and/or dates. You can do the "corp goth" look with officewear, but most people don't really bother because it's not too hard to afford a basic going out outfit.
1) Noone gets dressed up to hang around on the street past the age of 18. The only reason to do that is because you're not old enough to get into clubs, and all the goths are. Go to a goth club, you will see goths.
2) There aren't really a new generation of younger goths, partly because emo kind of stole the teenage-angst thunder and partly because my generation (mid to late 20s) never felt much identification with the 80s, so we all became cybergoths or rivetheads or metallers.
All of the goths I know who are my age only got into goth through metal or industrial or some other "alternative" style. Your typical trad goth or new romantic is well into their 30s if not 40s now.
3) The fashion elements tend to get toned down as people get older, particularly for guys, as it impacts on the ability to get jobs and/or dates. You can do the "corp goth" look with officewear, but most people don't really bother because it's not too hard to afford a basic going out outfit.
Yup, was at Metal-Town last year. highest concentration I've ever seen. Btw, what's up with the idea that metal is male-dominated? At least 40% of the people I saw at that place were women. Not complaining! ^^Count Viceroy said:
Happened to see victorian/goth couple that looked beautiful. Authentic clothing, fitting personality by the looks of it etc.
But yeah, it is mostly the clothing style that remains popular and mostly amongst metal-fans.
Oh, we're still around. We just wear normal people skins and normal people clothes now - most of the time.
As for the awesome underground scene - around here, it got torn to shreds by the influx of bad music, the emo trend, insatiable sexual hunger that would end in getting a bouquet of STDs, including HIV, vegans and vegetarians objecting to perfectly fine satinist blood n guts chic and impaled goats heads, political folks making everything political and projecting political statements into everything, oh, and the same political folks hiring skinhead security musclemen to keep non-Marx-worshipping folks out of events that turned stale, boring and no fun in no time. We're just not entertained by Titty von Teese or Dr. Fisto fisting fistees on stage for the lulz.
That's that in a nutcase's skull cap.
Yeah, around here, the revolution is still merrily munching on its children. And my nerves.
Yeah, I remember going to Six Flags, bumping into a pack of feral goths munching on corn dogs. We adopted them for the night and showed them the fun bits of absinthe and datura. We had a blast.
As for the awesome underground scene - around here, it got torn to shreds by the influx of bad music, the emo trend, insatiable sexual hunger that would end in getting a bouquet of STDs, including HIV, vegans and vegetarians objecting to perfectly fine satinist blood n guts chic and impaled goats heads, political folks making everything political and projecting political statements into everything, oh, and the same political folks hiring skinhead security musclemen to keep non-Marx-worshipping folks out of events that turned stale, boring and no fun in no time. We're just not entertained by Titty von Teese or Dr. Fisto fisting fistees on stage for the lulz.
That's that in a nutcase's skull cap.
Yeah, around here, the revolution is still merrily munching on its children. And my nerves.
OOooh you take that back, you filthy, filthy beard.DugMachine said:
Yeah, I remember going to Six Flags, bumping into a pack of feral goths munching on corn dogs. We adopted them for the night and showed them the fun bits of absinthe and datura. We had a blast.