What Exactly Is Wrong With World Of Warcraft?
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Well, it started with the welfare epics, then the ease of PvP rewards being much better than top tier raiding equipment, then it just went straight downhill into daily quest grinding.
Which, if you do with friends, doesn't seem all that dull. Unless your friends are dull. Then, agreed, it is dull. I can't stand soloing things in any game. I just get so fed up with it, so I don't mind WoW so much as I tend to quest with my pals, and we have a good banter going on.Johnnyallstar said:
there is nothing perticularly wrong with it, its just not for me.
I like an mmo game where my character can be unique, where there are a billion variables that I can change and none of them will affect me in any perticular way.
I like it when people are like "so we should get zenfox3/funnydoody/noble/legend3/tenn/Ryan to join us, he has high attack and is fun to play with."
with WoW, its pretty much "pick this or that or we wont let you be part of our group"
and that makes me sad.
I like to be me in games, not "the tank" or "the healer", I like to play as I play, and not have to learn spell rotations so I can be like one of the other 10billion people who all picked the same class.
plus, I just dont find the exp/gold farming or questing rewarding enough. its like "youre the 80 ballilionth person to do this, congrats." and yeah, not for me.
EDIT: maybe if it was free, I might play it from time to time, but if I were paying for it I would feel obligated to play it, and that makes it kinda not fun.
In the end, Im glad WoW was made though.
because I dont have an xbox, and my friend(who is addicted to WoW) doesnt mind if i take his provided I bring it back from time to time(I have a higher gamerscore than him, and I own more xbox games than him, AND ITS HIS FREAKING XBOX!!!)
I like an mmo game where my character can be unique, where there are a billion variables that I can change and none of them will affect me in any perticular way.
I like it when people are like "so we should get zenfox3/funnydoody/noble/legend3/tenn/Ryan to join us, he has high attack and is fun to play with."
with WoW, its pretty much "pick this or that or we wont let you be part of our group"
and that makes me sad.
I like to be me in games, not "the tank" or "the healer", I like to play as I play, and not have to learn spell rotations so I can be like one of the other 10billion people who all picked the same class.
plus, I just dont find the exp/gold farming or questing rewarding enough. its like "youre the 80 ballilionth person to do this, congrats." and yeah, not for me.
EDIT: maybe if it was free, I might play it from time to time, but if I were paying for it I would feel obligated to play it, and that makes it kinda not fun.
In the end, Im glad WoW was made though.
because I dont have an xbox, and my friend(who is addicted to WoW) doesnt mind if i take his provided I bring it back from time to time(I have a higher gamerscore than him, and I own more xbox games than him, AND ITS HIS FREAKING XBOX!!!)
For some people there isn't anything wrong with it. It's rewarding, has a great community, has tons of content and variety blah blah.
I'm reluctant to say it's deliberately exploitative because it has everything i'd put into an mmo if i made my own. Not because i want to exploit people, but because they genuinely make it more enjoyable.
A lot of people hate that it's addictive though or just don't like mmos because of the grinding.
It has a few gameplay problems too. Blizzard seem to pick favourite classes and they get royal treatment while others are left severely underpowered. And recently they've started ruining existing content just to get people onto the newer stuff more quickly.
I don't recommend it but for an mmo it's one of the best
I'm reluctant to say it's deliberately exploitative because it has everything i'd put into an mmo if i made my own. Not because i want to exploit people, but because they genuinely make it more enjoyable.
A lot of people hate that it's addictive though or just don't like mmos because of the grinding.
It has a few gameplay problems too. Blizzard seem to pick favourite classes and they get royal treatment while others are left severely underpowered. And recently they've started ruining existing content just to get people onto the newer stuff more quickly.
I don't recommend it but for an mmo it's one of the best
I'll agree with the others who say its boring. Really, its just that. I played a trial of it, and after two days I was staring at my monitor going "... why?" Nothing was explained, there was no real interaction, the game had a very... Hollow feel about it. Like, it was just there to distract you from whatever it is you probably need ot do in the real world.
I find it bland, mainly because I hate grinding, and has basically been designed to make you addicted to it [http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html].
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I will admit, I never even realised there was an ongoing story until way after I hit 80. I never really saw a story in MMOs. I found it hard to imagine a world in strife when every Tom, Dick and Harry had the Sword of Mount Awesome and were practically indestructible. It gets to a point where the evildoer wouldn't dare stab the little old lady on the likely chance that she's a hero in disguise.Eicha said:
I'll give you an answer that isn't about sub fees or ruining your life.Thyunda said:
The short answer: Its not EVE-Online (circa 2006).
The long answer: No non-consensual PVP and no real death penalty, for me this is a complete turn off in an MMO. I know the majority hate such mechanics but its what gives an MMO depth and excitement.
I have to have the feeling of danger and at the same time that danger meaning something, if you lose you should feel the effects and if you win you know its not a hollow victory.
Thats the main one, theres a few others such as one server for all and player driven content and economies.
I don't hate WoW but I hate how it defines what all MMOs should be, which to me is the complete opposite to what I and a small minority want.
After playing Runescape, I vowed never to play a MMO again. Unless it's a strategy game.
It literally takes months and months of grinding to get to level 90, and you haven't even reached halfway to get to the highest level, which is 99. It takes up an enormous amount of your time. Time which I regret losing and never get back. WoW isn't very different as I've heard.
It literally takes months and months of grinding to get to level 90, and you haven't even reached halfway to get to the highest level, which is 99. It takes up an enormous amount of your time. Time which I regret losing and never get back. WoW isn't very different as I've heard.
Lol. Yeah well, at least a prostitute gives you instant gratification... and she'll make a man out of you boy.Thyunda said:
Unbalanced PvP, constant re-tweaking of the classes, and not to mention that the game has been fundamentally made easier so some of the things that used to mean a lot back then are completely worthless now.
It's just dull. Limited character interaction, limited character design, wide arcing plots you have no input or interest in; and over-reliance on grind.
I really liked the look of it to begin with but then I realized it's just micro-management against a motivational poster. I expect to get paid for work, not pay to work.
I can sit by the Commonlands Oasis, set up a Vaporator on Dantooine, Scuttle through Neriak, Fly over Steel Canyon or just sit whittling bows in Coombe and it's fun. In WoW, I ran round the Undead village killing maggots and it wasn't.
I really liked the look of it to begin with but then I realized it's just micro-management against a motivational poster. I expect to get paid for work, not pay to work.
I can sit by the Commonlands Oasis, set up a Vaporator on Dantooine, Scuttle through Neriak, Fly over Steel Canyon or just sit whittling bows in Coombe and it's fun. In WoW, I ran round the Undead village killing maggots and it wasn't.
Alright, wall of text incoming.
Loads of people think World of Warcraft is awesome. Awesome in the sense that the game is pretty easily defined, with mechanics that are very easy to grasp, and somewhat more difficult to master. There is a lot of content in that game, a mindblowing amount of content, and it would take you years to see everything that game has to offer. It has a gigantic fanbase, which means that no matter how much of a unique little snowflake you are, there are bound to be people playing with you that have the same views as you, same playing style as you, fetishes, etc.
It's a game that you can spend an hour a day playing comfortably and still enjoy what the game has to offer. Your grandmother can log on and choose a class, not having any idea what's really going on, and she can still bunny hop all the way to Ironforge with you on your leet ass epic mount. I remember having a conversation a few years ago with my stepfathers chiropractors receptionist about the best spec for a PvE hunter.
Vanilla WoW was a very different game than WotLK. The servers barely ran, PvP Battlegrounds didn't exist, shit was going crazy. In the time since then, Blizzard has added at least two dozen gigabytes of content, and that's just on your computer, nevermind their servers. After realizing what a goldmine the game was, and after seeing that the demographic of people who played this game was vastly different than who played WC3 or any of their other titles, Blizzard started to make changes accordingly. They tried to create systems to prevent pigeon-holing in classes, simplifying the raiding system, and generally making it easier for people to experience the content they were really proud of. When BC came out, they made it easier for you to get through the dark portal. When WotLK came out, they made it easier for you to get to Northrend. This has been largely regarded as a bad move by the people on the forums on their website(which is composed mainly by people who are almost completely braindead), but lets get one thing straight here;
People hate WoW for a number of reasons. Some people hate it because the game got really easy all of a sudden. This is mostly(98%) bullshit. Mechanics have been tuned so that early game content is easy (where the casual players generally stay), and end game content (where the hardcore players complain) is a lot easier to access. That's not to say that getting geared out to handle the final boss in an expansion is easy, and I'd like to point out that almost all of the people who complain about how easy the game is are not involved in end-game content.
Some people hate WoW because it steals their friends. This is probably the only acceptable reason to hate the game, but if your friend started playing World of Warcraft and promptly dropped off the face of the planet, he probably had an addictive personality anyway. And lets face it, drugs are more dangerous, casual sex is more maiming to your psyche, gambling and shopping are more expensive, and eating makes you a fatass. So it's among the better of addictions to have. If you're upset that you lost your friend to WoW, introduce him to crack cocaine and you two can spend quality time together. That is, until you start to kirk out and tear off your clothes because you think it's 1000 degrees in your basement.
Other people hate WoW because of the little children playing and I wouldn't normally call people out for that, but it's important to note that in general, the kids playing that game aren't nearly as bad as the self righteous elitest teenagers/adults who play it. I had a metric fuckton more fun playing WoW with a 13 year old from Australia than my friends seemed to have playing in a hardcore raid guild. Especially because she thought the dust devils in Westfall were going to kill her family (I promise I had nothing to do with that).
You see, World of Warcraft is like Coldplay, McDonalds, hardcore drugs, or having children. Whenever something becomes ridiculously popular, there are people who used to like it but don't anymore because everyone else "ruined" it for them, there are people who refuse to even look at it because they've heard so much about it that they just can't accept it's validity, and then there are people who are upset because their friends like it more than they like them.
Basically, if you like WoW, play it. You don't need to let the haters get you down just because you enjoy something they don't like. It's like farm sex. Some people are gonna get pissed at you for violently sodomizing a few cattle, but hey, if you enjoy it, you can't let opinionated people stop you.
Personally? I haven't played it in years and I don't intend on starting again anytime soon. I got kind of bored with it.
Loads of people think World of Warcraft is awesome. Awesome in the sense that the game is pretty easily defined, with mechanics that are very easy to grasp, and somewhat more difficult to master. There is a lot of content in that game, a mindblowing amount of content, and it would take you years to see everything that game has to offer. It has a gigantic fanbase, which means that no matter how much of a unique little snowflake you are, there are bound to be people playing with you that have the same views as you, same playing style as you, fetishes, etc.
It's a game that you can spend an hour a day playing comfortably and still enjoy what the game has to offer. Your grandmother can log on and choose a class, not having any idea what's really going on, and she can still bunny hop all the way to Ironforge with you on your leet ass epic mount. I remember having a conversation a few years ago with my stepfathers chiropractors receptionist about the best spec for a PvE hunter.
Vanilla WoW was a very different game than WotLK. The servers barely ran, PvP Battlegrounds didn't exist, shit was going crazy. In the time since then, Blizzard has added at least two dozen gigabytes of content, and that's just on your computer, nevermind their servers. After realizing what a goldmine the game was, and after seeing that the demographic of people who played this game was vastly different than who played WC3 or any of their other titles, Blizzard started to make changes accordingly. They tried to create systems to prevent pigeon-holing in classes, simplifying the raiding system, and generally making it easier for people to experience the content they were really proud of. When BC came out, they made it easier for you to get through the dark portal. When WotLK came out, they made it easier for you to get to Northrend. This has been largely regarded as a bad move by the people on the forums on their website(which is composed mainly by people who are almost completely braindead), but lets get one thing straight here;
People hate WoW for a number of reasons. Some people hate it because the game got really easy all of a sudden. This is mostly(98%) bullshit. Mechanics have been tuned so that early game content is easy (where the casual players generally stay), and end game content (where the hardcore players complain) is a lot easier to access. That's not to say that getting geared out to handle the final boss in an expansion is easy, and I'd like to point out that almost all of the people who complain about how easy the game is are not involved in end-game content.
Some people hate WoW because it steals their friends. This is probably the only acceptable reason to hate the game, but if your friend started playing World of Warcraft and promptly dropped off the face of the planet, he probably had an addictive personality anyway. And lets face it, drugs are more dangerous, casual sex is more maiming to your psyche, gambling and shopping are more expensive, and eating makes you a fatass. So it's among the better of addictions to have. If you're upset that you lost your friend to WoW, introduce him to crack cocaine and you two can spend quality time together. That is, until you start to kirk out and tear off your clothes because you think it's 1000 degrees in your basement.
Other people hate WoW because of the little children playing and I wouldn't normally call people out for that, but it's important to note that in general, the kids playing that game aren't nearly as bad as the self righteous elitest teenagers/adults who play it. I had a metric fuckton more fun playing WoW with a 13 year old from Australia than my friends seemed to have playing in a hardcore raid guild. Especially because she thought the dust devils in Westfall were going to kill her family (I promise I had nothing to do with that).
You see, World of Warcraft is like Coldplay, McDonalds, hardcore drugs, or having children. Whenever something becomes ridiculously popular, there are people who used to like it but don't anymore because everyone else "ruined" it for them, there are people who refuse to even look at it because they've heard so much about it that they just can't accept it's validity, and then there are people who are upset because their friends like it more than they like them.
Basically, if you like WoW, play it. You don't need to let the haters get you down just because you enjoy something they don't like. It's like farm sex. Some people are gonna get pissed at you for violently sodomizing a few cattle, but hey, if you enjoy it, you can't let opinionated people stop you.
Personally? I haven't played it in years and I don't intend on starting again anytime soon. I got kind of bored with it.