What final fantasy game is your favorite?
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The original one on the NES because it was the only challenging one that had me explore semi-complex dungeons with death looming over my party at every step, that made me decide between better armors/weapons or new spells or even supplies to get me through the next area because money was hard to come by and that had me talk to npcs for info on what to do, all things that where slowly eroded out of the series sequel after sequel.
Maybe X-2, honestly.
Yeah, there have been other great experiences (I've played, in various incarnations, I-V, VII, VIII, X, X-2, D/DFF, CC(7), EoT, MQ, and some VI, XI, XII, DoC(7), CC, EoT, with all the former but III and MQ to the credits (okay, I was at the final battles in VII)), but I don't think I've invested myself in any of them as much as in X-2 (closest may have been the first DFF). I was plotting out my "uber-file" and everything. If a "FFX Collection" is made for PS3, damn straight I'd plan out an uber-file again, especially with save file backup (I'm good 'til late 2013).
EDIT: Right, I started up some WOTL, too (Warriors Of The Light?), but put that on hold. FFX was my first (before that, my friend had mentioned FF8 in an in-class AIM chat, and that was all I knew) when a twice-schoolmate lent me some games (started with Budokai, then, IIRC, started Xenosaga, then FFX, and KH somewhere in there; good bunch), back in mid high school (graduated in '06). Lately, though, I haven't felt up to investing myself in these time-consuming games, even though my time is consumed by the less assuming ones. If that "FFX Collection" (or likely "COMPLETE" or "COMPLETE COLLECTION", ala FFIV) is ever made, I'd force myself to set X-2 aside and give a good, long revisit to my teething ring, especially knowing as much about the series as I do now (I honestly thought Seymour's evilness was a red herring/being played off to be subverted later).
Yeah, there have been other great experiences (I've played, in various incarnations, I-V, VII, VIII, X, X-2, D/DFF, CC(7), EoT, MQ, and some VI, XI, XII, DoC(7), CC, EoT, with all the former but III and MQ to the credits (okay, I was at the final battles in VII)), but I don't think I've invested myself in any of them as much as in X-2 (closest may have been the first DFF). I was plotting out my "uber-file" and everything. If a "FFX Collection" is made for PS3, damn straight I'd plan out an uber-file again, especially with save file backup (I'm good 'til late 2013).
EDIT: Right, I started up some WOTL, too (Warriors Of The Light?), but put that on hold. FFX was my first (before that, my friend had mentioned FF8 in an in-class AIM chat, and that was all I knew) when a twice-schoolmate lent me some games (started with Budokai, then, IIRC, started Xenosaga, then FFX, and KH somewhere in there; good bunch), back in mid high school (graduated in '06). Lately, though, I haven't felt up to investing myself in these time-consuming games, even though my time is consumed by the less assuming ones. If that "FFX Collection" (or likely "COMPLETE" or "COMPLETE COLLECTION", ala FFIV) is ever made, I'd force myself to set X-2 aside and give a good, long revisit to my teething ring, especially knowing as much about the series as I do now (I honestly thought Seymour's evilness was a red herring/being played off to be subverted later).
Final fantasy VIII was my first final fantasy. I loved that game, and thought it was the bomb. But my all time favorite is IX. I've had more good times with that game than any other.
So? i like what i like and if you cared to play XIII you realise grand pulse part of game is completely open space with lots to do (missions grind and chocobo treasure hunt). absolutely loved characters and story and it's enough for me and i absolutely hated VII because of stupid characters and story. i never had a nostalgia for old FF games just because when i was growing up there were no video games in my country and i played old FF games (VII,VIII,IX,X,x-2,XII) when i got my PS3. i don't care about openness of a J-rpg because i'm expecting it from genre. i was pretty happy with how XIII begins and introduces characters if it's have to be linear so be it i don't care. i enjoy open world and will play skyrim from launch but i clearly separate Western RPG and J-RPG and enjoy both of them.effilctar said:
FF9 for me as well. When it first came out all those years ago i remember thinking it was meh. I recently went back and replayed and beat it last summer and its now my favorite jrpg of all time.
Great characters and character development.
Very likable protagonist.
Best music score ive heard in any game.
and Quina is a boss!
Great characters and character development.
Very likable protagonist.
Best music score ive heard in any game.
and Quina is a boss!
If you loved 10 above all else you should definitely give 12 a try.Sassafrass said:
Which kind of answers the topic I guess.
And I would be one of those older people.Sud0_x said:
I'm in my thirties now (also firmly in denial, but that's another story), and I still find the FF games as much fun as I did when I first picked one up. VII was my first and I was 17 at the time.
I'll be the first one to admit that by todays standards, VII is looking a little shaky. What can you expect, it's about 15 years old, and the industry has come on in leaps and bounds since then. However. Maybe it's part nostalgia speaking, but I still play it. I still find the Materia system to be one of the best, most customisable, magic systems I've ever used. Someone earlier mentioned that the characters are like old friends - that sums it up perfectly for me. I spent my formative console gaming years helping these people save the world, and I'm very attached to them.
There's an adage floating around about how generally, your first FF game tends to be your favourite. In my case that's true. Perhaps it's because it was all so new then, it made such a lasting impression. Sure, nowadays we moan about The Hero, The Loner, The Love Interest, The Kooky One, but that's because they have become somewhat forumlaic. But back in the day (and this is where nostalgia comes creeping back in), they didn't feel like stereotypes.
VIII was the next one I played after VII, and for a good while, I didn't like it. I sulked about all the different gameplay mechanisms - where's the Materia? Why is it a GF instead of a Summon? Blah blah blah. Then it clicked that I was expecting VIII to be a sequel, or at least very similar to my beloved VII, which obviously it wasn't intended to be. Once I got my thick head around this, I started to enjoy it for what it was, not what I wanted it to be. And now? Love it. Well, the Draw system still makes me twitch uncontrollably, but apart from that I love it.
So I went back and played the older games, and I've done the new ones as well. The main conclusions I've reached are that if you don't like JRPGs, these will not be your thing. Food you find on the floor is always good. Hair styles often defy the laws of physics. And take each game as it is.
Some you might like, some you'll think are lacking compared to others. But I appreciate the fact that Square haven't just churned out the same mechanics each game, they've tried new systems. Some worked and others didn't, but each game has sucked me in eventually.
I liked FF III quite a lot, and I think they actually moved in some positive directions in FF XII (although after X-2 there really wasn't anywhere to go but up...).
My favourite has to be FF Tactics A2 for the DS. I cannot believe how damn addictive I found that game - I tried it literally on a whim, not expecting to get much out of it. How wrong I was!
My favourite has to be FF Tactics A2 for the DS. I cannot believe how damn addictive I found that game - I tried it literally on a whim, not expecting to get much out of it. How wrong I was!
I would have to go with Crisis Core as it is one of the very few games that got me emotionally involved with the story and characters. I really ought to play FFVII but I just don't really get into it as much as XII, not many people like it but I do. Especially when you can faff around and get detoured from the story line.
I think what I'm trying to say is that the first time you play a game like this, it doesn't feel like stereotyping because you haven't encountered the character types before. Once you're a seasoned veteran of course, you do start to recognise them. I tend to reference them all back to VII, since it was my first - when I met Rikku in FFX I thought "Ah ha, it's a Yuffie".targren said:By nostalgia you mean nostalgia is clouding the fact that it was just as formulaic in 1997?
Up until this point in my gaming career, character stereotyping as far as RPGs went was more "Fighter, Cleric, Thief, Mage". I suppose in a lot of ways, it still all boils down to that, though nowadays with the different personalities layered on top...
It's all relative, really.
I guess it all depends on how genre savvy one is. The make-up was pretty much bog-standard Five-Man Band [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FiveManBand][0] (poorly named trope, admittedly) which goes back to (at least, in my memory) cartoons in the 80s.LittleBlondeGoth said:I think what I'm trying to say is that the first time you play a game like this, it doesn't feel like stereotyping because you haven't encountered the character types before. Once you're a seasoned veteran of course, you do start to recognise them. I tend to reference them all back to VII, since it was my first - when I met Rikku in FFX I thought "Ah ha, it's a Yuffie".targren said:By nostalgia you mean nostalgia is clouding the fact that it was just as formulaic in 1997?
Up until this point in my gaming career, character stereotyping as far as RPGs went was more "Fighter, Cleric, Thief, Mage". I suppose in a lot of ways, it still all boils down to that, though nowadays with the different personalities layered on top...
It's all relative, really.
The Hero - Cloud
The Lancer - Tifa
The Big Guy - Barrett
The Chick - Aeris
The Smart Guy - Red XIII
The Traitor - Cait Sith
Team Dad - Cid
Sixth Ranger/Tagalong Kid - Yuffie
(some would invert Tifa and Barrett. YMMV)
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The only Final Fantasy I've played is the thirteenth and I didn't think it was that bad. I guess it's probably because I didn't go into it with the high expectations that everyone else did.
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, as you can probably tell by my post count and join date, I come and go with no kind of regularity.LittleBlondeGoth said:And I would be one of those older people.Sud0_x said:
I'm in my thirties now (also firmly in denial, but that's another story), and I still find the FF games as much fun as I did when I first picked one up. VII was my first and I was 17 at the time.
I'll be the first one to admit that by todays standards, VII is looking a little shaky. What can you expect, it's about 15 years old, and the industry has come on in leaps and bounds since then. However. Maybe it's part nostalgia speaking, but I still play it. I still find the Materia system to be one of the best, most customisable, magic systems I've ever used. Someone earlier mentioned that the characters are like old friends - that sums it up perfectly for me. I spent my formative console gaming years helping these people save the world, and I'm very attached to them.
There's an adage floating around about how generally, your first FF game tends to be your favourite. In my case that's true. Perhaps it's because it was all so new then, it made such a lasting impression. Sure, nowadays we moan about The Hero, The Loner, The Love Interest, The Kooky One, but that's because they have become somewhat forumlaic. But back in the day (and this is where nostalgia comes creeping back in), they didn't feel like stereotypes.
VIII was the next one I played after VII, and for a good while, I didn't like it. I sulked about all the different gameplay mechanisms - where's the Materia? Why is it a GF instead of a Summon? Blah blah blah. Then it clicked that I was expecting VIII to be a sequel, or at least very similar to my beloved VII, which obviously it wasn't intended to be. Once I got my thick head around this, I started to enjoy it for what it was, not what I wanted it to be. And now? Love it. Well, the Draw system still makes me twitch uncontrollably, but apart from that I love it.
So I went back and played the older games, and I've done the new ones as well. The main conclusions I've reached are that if you don't like JRPGs, these will not be your thing. Food you find on the floor is always good. Hair styles often defy the laws of physics. And take each game as it is.
Some you might like, some you'll think are lacking compared to others. But I appreciate the fact that Square haven't just churned out the same mechanics each game, they've tried new systems. Some worked and others didn't, but each game has sucked me in eventually.
Thanks for sharing that with me.
I must say, I also have to thank the other individual in this thread who came in here and weathered my dickish demeanor to actually spark this more in depth discussion of the series and the somewhat love/hate relationship a lot of the long-time fans have with the series.
I didn't feel like getting too in depth in the discussion on characterization and the games themselves. However, I have to agree with you, I stated earlier that VIII was my first and I still play it. I hold it up as the definitive experience for me simply because it was the first and, yes, those characters have always remained my favourite of the franchise. (Funny considering I think they're often among the most hated)
The games do still have merit, whether it be artistic or simply as a means of entertainment or the nostalgic memories of yesteryear, I'm glad the series is still around.
XII followed by XIII and X. I dunno, I never really liked the older ones, but the newer ones were great fun.