What have you always wante to ask someone in the Army?
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That's really hard to answer. It differs for everyone. That's like asking someone "When do people start entering Puberty?"Dingoman013 said:
My Question to you is, what are the chances of getting PTSD? Also, do you have to respect your fallen or something. Is Recoil that terrible like from games?
Nothing.
My two best buddies are and were riflemen in the Australian Army, 8/9 regiment to be specific, and they've told me nearly every single story they have whether I wanted to or not.
My two best buddies are and were riflemen in the Australian Army, 8/9 regiment to be specific, and they've told me nearly every single story they have whether I wanted to or not.
Graphic. But yes.ghostayami said:
PTSD is something vastly overplayed by people who just want to get home. In a job like this, you've got to expect it. But then again, some minds just can't handle it.I'm not even sure if I could, I think I turned out alright.Nouw said:
I'm not sure what you mean by the second question, but I think you mean do we have ceremonies for the dead. Yes, we do.
Recoil isn't an issue in most weapons. The M4 can be fired off of your crotch. Not even kidding. We don't fire wild like in video games, we make measured shots. Every shot counts, never waste.
"The situation was caused by the most dangerous thing on any battlefield: an officer with a map."Wadders said:
If you look at Royal Marines qualifying tests, the officers have to be better at everything than the enlisted men.
However, they're still a weird lot with a rather different world view.
http://ptsd.about.com/od/prevalence/a/MilitaryPTSD.htmNouw said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/shocking-suicide-toll-on-combat-veterans-1746475.html
Nouw said:
That would depend on the game and the weapon and also on you. I've seen the recoil from a 12-ga shotgun knock a man over backwards because he didn't hold it right.
When you fire, the propellant burns up and generates a lot of pressure. This forces the bullet and the gun apart. Newton's third law states that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Launching a .22 SSS bullet down-range with 120 ft lbs of energy means you're getting an equal and opposite 120 ft lbs of energy pushing the gun up-range, plus a little bit of rocket effect as the remaining propellant burns up and the pressure in the barrel vents ou tthrough the muzzle after the bullet has gone. If you've got the rifle snug against your shoulder and a firm hold and so on, you can watch the bullet glint in the sunlight on its way to the target. With the right position, a titchy little 14-yr-old can fire 7.62x51mm and not get hurt or flipped over. If you hold the weapon away from your shoulder because you're scared of the recoil, you turn it into a battering ram. 4 grams of lead and copper going one way at 910 m/s and 5kg of rifle coming the other at 20 m/s have about the same energy ... and so has a 50kg teenager setting off backwards up the range at a respectable 200m pace of 8 m/s.
She doesn't have the butt against her shoulder.
That guy's got more muscle mass and he's standing to accomodate the recoil.
The mechanism can't overcome the law of conservation of momentum, but it can smooth things out a lot.
If you're firing a pistol, you get a significant rocket effect from leftover propellant, which is what produces the huge flame sprays from the muzzle:
This means you get more recoil relative to the energy in the bullet.
That recoil's coming in less time because you're using a shorter barrel. You also have one or two hands holding the weapon in one place rather than two hands and a shoulder holding it in three places. This means the same amount of recoil is rather more significant.
That video and this video are using the same calibre, I think.
Grip, muscle strength, stance and being ready for it have huge parts to play.
What you'll find with experience is that there are some weapons with which you can reliably hit a Figure-11 "running man" target at 25m, some with which you can reliably hit "him" in the face at that range and some with which you can reliably hit a barn from the inside. Power will have a part to play in this because the harder the thing kicks the more it'll bounce around as you're firing. However, the fit of the grip to your hand, the height of the barrel above your wrist (giving the recoil leverage against your forearm muscles), the force against time profile of the recoil, the change in tension in the trigger mechanism as the hammer is released and a lot of other things also come into play.
You won't get the lightweight, concealable sniper rifle of Half Life and Halo games, and the odds are that even a .22LR target pistol will jump upwards with each shot, no matter how good you are ...
... but that doesn't mean you can't have a fast return to a steady aim with a more powerful 9mm, even with a crappy isosceles stance:
In related videos, she fires a Glock .45, basically the same weapon with a slower, heavier, slightly more powerful round, and you can see it start to tremble because she's fighting it because she doesn't like the recoil of it.
So ... no sniping but it won't come back through your face if you do it right. They're got Dainty Blonde firing a .44Mag revolver in there too, and she misses the target with every round but she doesn't chip her teeth with it either.
Sensible weapon for you and the right technique and recoil pretty much ceases to be an issue ... but keep that "sensible weapon" thing in mind.
When you fire, the propellant burns up and generates a lot of pressure. This forces the bullet and the gun apart. Newton's third law states that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Launching a .22 SSS bullet down-range with 120 ft lbs of energy means you're getting an equal and opposite 120 ft lbs of energy pushing the gun up-range, plus a little bit of rocket effect as the remaining propellant burns up and the pressure in the barrel vents ou tthrough the muzzle after the bullet has gone. If you've got the rifle snug against your shoulder and a firm hold and so on, you can watch the bullet glint in the sunlight on its way to the target. With the right position, a titchy little 14-yr-old can fire 7.62x51mm and not get hurt or flipped over. If you hold the weapon away from your shoulder because you're scared of the recoil, you turn it into a battering ram. 4 grams of lead and copper going one way at 910 m/s and 5kg of rifle coming the other at 20 m/s have about the same energy ... and so has a 50kg teenager setting off backwards up the range at a respectable 200m pace of 8 m/s.
She doesn't have the butt against her shoulder.
That guy's got more muscle mass and he's standing to accomodate the recoil.
The mechanism can't overcome the law of conservation of momentum, but it can smooth things out a lot.
If you're firing a pistol, you get a significant rocket effect from leftover propellant, which is what produces the huge flame sprays from the muzzle:
This means you get more recoil relative to the energy in the bullet.
That recoil's coming in less time because you're using a shorter barrel. You also have one or two hands holding the weapon in one place rather than two hands and a shoulder holding it in three places. This means the same amount of recoil is rather more significant.
That video and this video are using the same calibre, I think.
Grip, muscle strength, stance and being ready for it have huge parts to play.
What you'll find with experience is that there are some weapons with which you can reliably hit a Figure-11 "running man" target at 25m, some with which you can reliably hit "him" in the face at that range and some with which you can reliably hit a barn from the inside. Power will have a part to play in this because the harder the thing kicks the more it'll bounce around as you're firing. However, the fit of the grip to your hand, the height of the barrel above your wrist (giving the recoil leverage against your forearm muscles), the force against time profile of the recoil, the change in tension in the trigger mechanism as the hammer is released and a lot of other things also come into play.
You won't get the lightweight, concealable sniper rifle of Half Life and Halo games, and the odds are that even a .22LR target pistol will jump upwards with each shot, no matter how good you are ...
... but that doesn't mean you can't have a fast return to a steady aim with a more powerful 9mm, even with a crappy isosceles stance:
In related videos, she fires a Glock .45, basically the same weapon with a slower, heavier, slightly more powerful round, and you can see it start to tremble because she's fighting it because she doesn't like the recoil of it.
So ... no sniping but it won't come back through your face if you do it right. They're got Dainty Blonde firing a .44Mag revolver in there too, and she misses the target with every round but she doesn't chip her teeth with it either.
Sensible weapon for you and the right technique and recoil pretty much ceases to be an issue ... but keep that "sensible weapon" thing in mind.
I must say, you are quite on top of everything. I'm impressed.Shoqiyqa said:
Varies as much as the man, truly. Some I met wanted to be officers strictly because they could give orders, others weren't satisfied with their past leadership and wanted to make it right, others are just damn great leaders.Wadders said:
I can actually answer that. Most services tend to have 6 to 12 month long deployments.RouxBelle said:
The Airforce usually only gets up to about three months. Plus, because most airforce bases are the center of Military activities, they are always around a good internet connection. Air force is jokingly the most relaxed position you can get into. My brother is encouraging me to join JTAC.
You most likely would have him calling you to much, instead of not enough.
But then again, ask the Army guy. I am not expert.
Hey, how ya doing? Been in for almost 8 years myself (MP), good to see a post like this, that was a good idea. Have you done any time with the 1st cav out of Bliss? Just a tip though, don't post your picture with your detailed job description, friend. I know you're proud and you should be, but you never know who's reading. OPSEC is your friend.theycallmemang said:
Would you say that being in the army is a kind of career choice you could work with for a long time? Just, I've often heard that people will often quit after a term or two, and sometimes others stick with it for longer. Also, do officers work with their troops in the field fairly often?
Never got into it somehow. Just didn't tickle me.Persi said:
good point. Thanks, man.mkg said:
I can't say that I have, but that does sound interesting.Phlakes said:
One time, I got kicked in the stomach, by a guy who was 6'1, and really, really fit. It hurt like hell, and my legs gave out, and I felt like I was gonna puke. Also, I couldn't breath.
Is that what a bullet feels like, but in a more concentrated spot?
Also, what's your service weapon?
Is that what a bullet feels like, but in a more concentrated spot?
Also, what's your service weapon?
