What if 9/11 happened in another country?
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Yeah, we're sorry...thaluikhain said:
But we have moved on since then. I guess being reduced to a tiny dot on the map with less inhabitants than NYC kinda teaches you to be humble and just take it^^
And I think thats exactly what Austria would do: Cower in fear and whisper "Please don't hurt me anymore"
I think we must have very different descriptions of what 'white knight' means. But anyway, where in my post was I 'grossly exaggerating' anything? This is the problem. If you just say that someone is saying or doing something but don't actually point out where they said/did such a thing and explain why they are wrong to say/do it, then it just makes it look like you're just throwing in random words that don't support your point of view in the slightest.
Same problem. Did I now? Really? When? If you answered these questions I might actually see what you're trying to get at here, and I might be more inclined to respect your point of view. Because from my perspective at the moment your lake of explanation and counter-argument implies that you can't handle your opinion being challenged. Looking at my post I can't figure out when I ever 'spoke with definitive authority'. I said I was angry. 'I' as in me personally. I never had the intention of speaking for the entire non-US population of the world.
Again with the pointlessly defensive jibes! I never asked for scientific evidence, I asked you to simply bother to address people's opinions with relevant counter arguments, rather than just call them stupid whilst offering no coherent points of your own, which you do owe me and everyone else on this thread that you insulted for no adequately explained reason. Go find me any post on this thread that you think is just saying 'AMERICA SUCKS DURRR' and I guarantee I will find at least one relevant argument within it, which is more than you supplied.
Rawne1980 said:
Diffrence is how it was done... not everyone on the PLANES were Americans. and think about it.. They crashed AIR PLANES FULL OF PEOPLE INTO FUCKING BUILDINGS. One even fought back. It a tragic-heroic story. IRA bombings would have stopped if England would leave N. Ireland according to IRA, but since they disbanded and catholisicm lost alot of face the past few decades I cant see them ever returning. Imagine growing with stories hoever that those savage Brits accross the lake made our people suffer for centuries, and try not to have some hate.
What if 9/11 happened in another country?
I'd be mainstream headline news for a day, maybe 2.
Then it'd fall down the coverage ladder for maybe a week, as headlines go on 'proper' news like X celebrity's latest scandal.
Then it'd maybe get sporadically mentioned maybe once or twice a month for the next 2-3 months.
Then it'd become a question in a pub quiz.
For a 'slow news period' extend those figures as appropriate.
I'd be mainstream headline news for a day, maybe 2.
Then it'd fall down the coverage ladder for maybe a week, as headlines go on 'proper' news like X celebrity's latest scandal.
Then it'd maybe get sporadically mentioned maybe once or twice a month for the next 2-3 months.
Then it'd become a question in a pub quiz.
For a 'slow news period' extend those figures as appropriate.
I doubt anyone would care. Which annoys me to no end. It'd probably get a quick news article - and maybe if it was done similarly to 9/11 it'd get some attention but really.... It wouldn't get half the attention for twice the number of deaths, especially if it was in a 3rd world country. If it happens in big-shot America of COURSE it's going to get attention but as soon as it happens in Europe.... Certain parts of Asia.... Africa or something people would barely blink.
I find it pretty damn disgusting to be honest. We really should base news on how many people get hurt - not because it's in a big country.
I find it pretty damn disgusting to be honest. We really should base news on how many people get hurt - not because it's in a big country.
Depends on the country. Specifics people.
First of all what is 9/11 really? It is quite possibility the greatest national shock to the system a country has had in over half a century, a symbol of that country's success and global influence is destroyed and one of its proudest cities has been reduced to mourning.
Now. If 9/11, in that context happened to any other country, this is probably what would happen.
Russia: If it happened to Russia there'd be no series of wars. Simultaneously, there'd be no middle east. This is RUSSIA people, that country simply does not give one flying fuck, its content not to invade people on most days but if something the scale of 9/11 had occured to the Russians you had best believe they'd put the boot in. And they would probably not even try as hard as America to adhere to conventional rules of engagement. They probably wouldn't make the mistake of invading Afghanistan again, simultaneously they'd have experience making war in the country. so they'd know the best ways to bomb the shit out of the country to destabilize it to all hell, (and i mean conventional bombs not nukes, Russia wouldn't overreact) then bomb the shit out of anyone who'd try to help Afghanistan. Russia would leave the Taliban ruled country SO DESOLATE it'd never be a threat to them again, and the other radical Islamic nations would pay heed. Then Russia will go back home and sit on the couch not giving a shit.
One does not idly fuck with Russia.
China: would give EVEN LESS of a shit then Russia, but would do its DAMNDEST to assassinate Bin Laden while he was still in power because they'd likely be subtler. Especially considering they dont have the navy at the time to project themselves. Once assassinated they would ensure political instability, radicalisation of socialist elements in the country and do its best to aid in a coup de tat establishing GLORIOUS SOCIALIST PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF AFGHANISTAN. That's the really scary thing about China.
The EU or any European Country west of Germany: Would piss and moan, likely self analyse themselves wondering what they'd done to bring this terror upon themselves and try to reason and placate radical islamic elements while preaching its constituent populations to be tolerent of our muslim brothers, likely while continuing population replacement policies under multiculturalism to import muslim immigrents to bolster workforces of their shrinking native populations takes to adherence to population control measures.
Oh wait thats sortof whats been happening in Europe SINCE 9/11, huh.
Also speaking as a European myself, thats how I'd view the world.
First of all what is 9/11 really? It is quite possibility the greatest national shock to the system a country has had in over half a century, a symbol of that country's success and global influence is destroyed and one of its proudest cities has been reduced to mourning.
Now. If 9/11, in that context happened to any other country, this is probably what would happen.
Russia: If it happened to Russia there'd be no series of wars. Simultaneously, there'd be no middle east. This is RUSSIA people, that country simply does not give one flying fuck, its content not to invade people on most days but if something the scale of 9/11 had occured to the Russians you had best believe they'd put the boot in. And they would probably not even try as hard as America to adhere to conventional rules of engagement. They probably wouldn't make the mistake of invading Afghanistan again, simultaneously they'd have experience making war in the country. so they'd know the best ways to bomb the shit out of the country to destabilize it to all hell, (and i mean conventional bombs not nukes, Russia wouldn't overreact) then bomb the shit out of anyone who'd try to help Afghanistan. Russia would leave the Taliban ruled country SO DESOLATE it'd never be a threat to them again, and the other radical Islamic nations would pay heed. Then Russia will go back home and sit on the couch not giving a shit.
One does not idly fuck with Russia.
China: would give EVEN LESS of a shit then Russia, but would do its DAMNDEST to assassinate Bin Laden while he was still in power because they'd likely be subtler. Especially considering they dont have the navy at the time to project themselves. Once assassinated they would ensure political instability, radicalisation of socialist elements in the country and do its best to aid in a coup de tat establishing GLORIOUS SOCIALIST PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF AFGHANISTAN. That's the really scary thing about China.
The EU or any European Country west of Germany: Would piss and moan, likely self analyse themselves wondering what they'd done to bring this terror upon themselves and try to reason and placate radical islamic elements while preaching its constituent populations to be tolerent of our muslim brothers, likely while continuing population replacement policies under multiculturalism to import muslim immigrents to bolster workforces of their shrinking native populations takes to adherence to population control measures.
Oh wait thats sortof whats been happening in Europe SINCE 9/11, huh.
Also speaking as a European myself, thats how I'd view the world.
Nothing at all. I see all these threads about "where were you when..." and all these kind of stuff, but frankly, I didn't see 9/11 as such a big deal. At the time, a bus blew up every. single. day. here in israel, and every. single. day. people were killed. I'm pretty sure no one ever heard of any of the terrorist attacks some of my friends died in. and frankly, besides scale and location there is no difference between the attacks. the US needs to get over itself.
Then our roles would be reversed. {Insert country here} would probably remember every anniversary of 9/11 because that was the day Ambiguityland was attacked and suddenly and violently lost thousands of innocents.
Every other country would be well aware of it, but none of them would be quite so concerned with it as the citizens of Placeholderia. The people in other countries would have mixed feelings on it, some people would give their sympathies and others--much like some people on the Escapist--would denounce the bloodshed and tell the citizens of Unknownia to "get over it."
Every other country would be well aware of it, but none of them would be quite so concerned with it as the citizens of Placeholderia. The people in other countries would have mixed feelings on it, some people would give their sympathies and others--much like some people on the Escapist--would denounce the bloodshed and tell the citizens of Unknownia to "get over it."
"Oh my god, who the hell cares?!" - peter griffin
seriously, who cares about the destruction of the twin towers anymore?! It happened 10, 11 years ago! And how many people died? 3000? Wow! Such a big number to you Americans! If people are still bitching and moaning over 3000 people then why are people not giving a hell about the black plaque? Jesus H Christ... DEAL WITH IT ALREADY.
seriously, who cares about the destruction of the twin towers anymore?! It happened 10, 11 years ago! And how many people died? 3000? Wow! Such a big number to you Americans! If people are still bitching and moaning over 3000 people then why are people not giving a hell about the black plaque? Jesus H Christ... DEAL WITH IT ALREADY.
If 9/11 happened in another country, no one would give a shit a month after it happened.
The people directly influenced by it, who live near the place it happened, would probably mourn.
That country would probably have a national remembrance day, but the memory would fade after a few years.
But it happened in America, so the media will be milking it for centuries.
The people directly influenced by it, who live near the place it happened, would probably mourn.
That country would probably have a national remembrance day, but the memory would fade after a few years.
But it happened in America, so the media will be milking it for centuries.
NinjaDeathSlap said:
Seriously?
I usually like to think better of people but I'm starting to think you might be a troll, or just that much of an arsehole. Are you really so up yourself that you're not even prepared to have a civil discussion with someone who would simply like to know what your actual views on the topic are, and why you felt the need to call everyone who happened to not conform to your as of yet unclear opinion an ignorant fool?
Not sure I'd call my post a non hateful one. I am a little angry that most every comment I have seen as been incredibly hateful towards America. So many of them act like America doing nothing would have been a better reaction to 9/11. Which I don't agree with. I think invading Afghanistan was, for better or worse, the proper course of action. I think it's supported by the fact that Bin Laden was found in Pakistan (which borders Afghanistan for those geography majors). And while I initially supported the invasion of Iraq, today I feel like it was little more than a distraction. Saddam was a terrible leader, but he wasn't related to the War on Terrorism. And it only weakened and further stretched American military resources. And our allies. Though, I'm not upset that he's gone.harmonic said:
As for other things. Well, no country is perfect. No. Not even yours, Dear forum reader currently reading my post. Especially not yours, everyone else. But show me a country that is. I will show you a work of fiction. And a bad work of fiction at that.
Anyway, my post might not have been overtly hateful, but I was a little angry when I posted it. So, that might count as being hateful on some level.
Beyond that. If you check my profile you'll find my motto.
I made that my motto entirely because I hate all the hate you see on the interwebz.