What if 9/11 happened in another country?

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Jumendez-sama

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As sort of a response to this topic [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.312280-How-is-9-11-viewed-internationally], I want to cover a different side of the issue:
How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?
Sorry if you think I should just pose this question in the topic I linked, but I feel this is a different enough question that it can have it's own topic.

Personally, I don't give much to 9/11 even if I am American, and when it happened, sure I was sort of shocked but I also felt not much of a personal connection to it, and the only reason I thought about it was because everyone else was talking about it (I live on the other side of the country, sue me for not feeling all too connected).
I also feel that this thread is going to end up being "Americans wouldn't care at all by now." because chances are: we wouldn't. We looked at the issues that happened in Haiti and Japan, and promoted the hell out of relief efforts for both. After a month for both, people got bored of seeing "Help Haiti" or "Ganbare Nippon!" and stopped caring.
 

Exterminas

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There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).
 

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Exterminas said:
There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).
Especially a nation that didn't have any part in the attack.

But yeah, If the Oslo bombing were any indicator, we (as in, the nordic countries) would much rather try and maintain our civil liberties instead of throwing it all to the flames of terror and fear-mongering.
 

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Considering that worse things happen regularly in any war-torn country, I think it's safe to say: no-one cares, especially not the powers that be. It's only because America was so shocked at being a victim for once that the whole 9/11 affair got so overblown.
 

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It kind of happened here in Norway less than two months ago...But we've already moved on and gone back to our normal lives.
 

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Considering the way they've treated other disasters in their own country, i.e. Katrina, I somehow doubt they'd give half a flying fuck.
 

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As mentioned, if it were anywhere else, the US wouldn't care. Smaller terrorist attacks, and much bigger wars and disasters are routinely overlooked because they happen somewhere else.

Exterminas said:
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).
Austro-Hungarian Empire?
 

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Jumendez-sama said:
How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?
British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.
 

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For most countries, it'd be a Tuesday. Terrorist attacks happen to other countries all the time.

Essentially, the US got mad it happened to them.
 

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ImmortalDrifter said:
As an American I can safely say that the people would care. The media wouldn't.
Let's test that
Do the words "Nord-ost" or "Beslan" ring any bells without needing to google it?
 

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thaluikhain said:
Exterminas said:
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).
Austro-Hungarian Empire?
It is funny that you mentioned that, It came to mind when I wrote the post. But then I realized the question was not "What would have happened, if 9/11 happened in another country and in another point of time?"

Although that certainly would make for some fun scenarios. I wonder how the pharaos would have reacted to two planes crashing their pretty, shiny pyramids.
 

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Shirokurou said:
ImmortalDrifter said:
As an American I can safely say that the people would care. The media wouldn't.
Let's test that
Do the words "Nord-ost" or "Beslan" ring any bells without needing to google it?
Beslan does. I actually donated to the UNICEF relief fund for the victims families. "Nord-ost" however does not.
 

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Rawne1980 said:
Jumendez-sama said:
How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?
British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.
One-sided opinion much?

The UVF were as bad as the IRA. There is no doubt that about that.

But still, the IRA had a large support in America because of the fact that they were seen as freedom-fighters, rather than being labelled as terrorists, as they should have been.]

Edit:

OT: America wouldn't care one bit.
 

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Exterminas said:
It is funny that you mentioned that, It came to mind when I wrote the post. But then I realized the question was not "What would have happened, if 9/11 happened in another country and in another point of time?"

Although that certainly would make for some fun scenarios. I wonder how the pharaos would have reacted to two planes crashing their pretty, shiny pyramids.
True, I mentioned that because it's just about within living memory.

On the other hand, the US wanted to go to war with Iraq for some time, they were just given the excuse.

If you were to ask "Which nations would use a terrorist attack as the excuse to start the war they were hoping to start anyway?"...well, that might not be a small number.
 

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ImmortalDrifter said:
Shirokurou said:
ImmortalDrifter said:
As an American I can safely say that the people would care. The media wouldn't.
Let's test that
Do the words "Nord-ost" or "Beslan" ring any bells without needing to google it?
Beslan does. I actually donated to the UNICEF relief fund for the victims families. "Nord-ost" however does not.
Well i guess you've probed your point.
FYI: Nord-Ost, was when in 2002 terrorists took hostages in a Moscow theater, playing the musical "Nord-Ost".
 
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Exterminas said:
There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).
Well, at least not on the wrong nation.

Rawne1980 said:
Jumendez-sama said:
How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?
British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IRA didn't attack Britain directly. They retarded-ly bombed the sh*t out of there own country, but they didn't attack Britain. You can't really pull the victim card there, I'm afraid.

Edit; Yes, I'm aware there were several bombings in Britain now, thank you very much for informing me three times.

OT; I doubt it would be as big a deal. America seemed to think that no matter what they did war would never directly touch they're country. That's why Pearl Harbour was such a big deal for them in WWII.
 

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The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
Exterminas said:
There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).
Well, at least not on the wrong nation.

Rawne1980 said:
Jumendez-sama said:
How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?
British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IRA didn't attack Britain directly. They retarded-ly bombed the sh*t out of there own country, but they didn't attack Britain. You can't really pull the victim card there, I'm afraid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London#Irish_republican_attacks_during_.22the_Troubles.22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Just some examples...