What if 9/11 happened in another country?

[Suijen]

It wouldn't have the same effect, regardless of country. All countries have their trauma moments, but the reason 9/11 was so important was because the victim, the United States, was the world's super power. When the US walks, the world shakes. If you don't believe me, look at how 9/11 and the financial crisis changed the world. For every other country, say, Russia, you'd probably get less sympathy. Russia has been hit by a string of terrorist attacks by Chechen rebels, all of them VERY brutal, but it's not too newsworthy. If you're China, then you'll definitely get a "you deserved it" every now and then (didn't that happen during the Sichuan earthquake?).

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London#Irish_republican_attacks_during_.22the_Troubles.22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Just some examples...

Fair enough, I knew there were some but not that many. I still find it hard to sympathise when I actually come from an area that had a high rate of bombings, though.

 

[jprf]

There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).

Well, at least not on the wrong nation.

How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?

British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IRA didn't attack Britain directly. They retarded-ly bombed the sh*t out of there own country, but they didn't attack Britain. You can't really pull the victim card there, I'm afraid.

OT; I doubt it would be as big a deal. America seemed to think that no matter what they did war would never directly touch they're country. That's why Pearl Harbour was such a big deal for them in WWII.

The IRA did directly attack the UK, several times. Why do you think Waterloo has no bins? (not that you have any reason to know that anyway, but whatever).

 

[El Poncho]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London#Irish_republican_attacks_during_.22the_Troubles.22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Just some examples...

Fair enough, I knew there were some but not that many. I still find it hard to sympathise when I actually come from an area that had a high rate of bombings, though.

The point is though that America didn't care for Britain, they were all for the IRA. No sympathy is expected.

 

[Tidenburg]

There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).

Well, at least not on the wrong nation.

How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?

British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IRA didn't attack Britain directly. They retarded-ly bombed the sh*t out of there own country, but they didn't attack Britain. You can't really pull the victim card there, I'm afraid.

OT; I doubt it would be as big a deal. America seemed to think that no matter what they did war would never directly touch they're country. That's why Pearl Harbour was such a big deal for them in WWII.

Um, no. Britain was attacked directly.

Also, if you don't think America provoked Pearl Harbour then you haven't looked through your history books enough. The government went directly against advice given to them and did things like cutting off oil to the Japanese, which was taken as a threat to them.

I don't want to turn this into a conspiracy thread, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the government had knowledge of a large terrorist attack prior to 9/11 and let it take place in order to gain an excuse to go to war. Same with Pearl Harbour.

Basically all attacks on America (even the spanish american war's vessel attack which has been admitted was a complete lie) have led to a war which America wanted to be in on, but couldn't because of their constitution. I don't think any other country would do that.

 

[goldendriger]

We wouldnt keep crying about it. Yes it was a tragedy and it was bullshit why so many people had to lose their lifes for something they didnt do. But geez, America seems like that little kid who never forgave his mom for not buying that one present for xmas a few years ago. You need to shut up and move on, mourn them (Building twin towers version 2 as a memorial is a damn good idea btw) and dont bring it up every 30 seconds.

It seriously gets annoying how everyone thinks its the worst tragedy ever, i mean 4 years ago i remember people asking "What will they do to remember the 10th annerversary?" Yeah no one has said "Next year is 100 years since Titanic sank what will they do?"

Tragedies happen, you can either A- Mourn, be sad and move on or B- ***** about it to the point where i think "Hey why not bomb them again to shut them up"

 

[SoulChaserJ]

My perspective... Americans care about 9/11 because it happened in America. Other countries should care about 9/11 because it shows exactly how carelessly Americans can/will react to any provocation. If 9/11 happened elsewhere America would only care about the outcome, not the event. Acts of terrorism happen all over the world every day and the only time it even makes the American headlines is when in some way shape or form the U.S. is involved(ie a single American died in a bombing that erased the lives of 1000's of Eurpoeans). America is a very self centered country and most of its citizens could give a crap if legions of non-Americans are dying. Again this is all my POV and if you don't agree then voice your own opinion. BTW I am an American and I do care about other countries...just not as much as what's going on in my own area.

 

[Immortal_Engines]

There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).

Well, at least not on the wrong nation.

How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?

British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IRA didn't attack Britain directly. They retarded-ly bombed the sh*t out of there own country, but they didn't attack Britain. You can't really pull the victim card there, I'm afraid.

OT; I doubt it would be as big a deal. America seemed to think that no matter what they did war would never directly touch they're country. That's why Pearl Harbour was such a big deal for them in WWII.

Err, yes they did, on several occasions, for example:

Brighton hotel bombing
1996 Docklands bombing
1993 Bishopsgate bombing
Hyde Park and Regent's Park bombings
M62 coach bombing
Birmingham pub bombings
Guildford pub bombings
Deal barracks bombing

Also, Northern Ireland still counts as the UK.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

I doubt it would be as big a deal. America seemed to think that no matter what they did war would never directly touch they're country. That's why Pearl Harbour was such a big deal for them in WWII.

Um, no. Britain was attacked directly.

Also, if you don't think America provoked Pearl Harbour then you haven't looked through your history books enough. The government went directly against advice given to them and did things like cutting off oil to the Japanese, which was taken as a threat to them.

I don't want to turn this into a conspiracy thread, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the government had knowledge of a large terrorist attack prior to 9/11 and let it take place in order to gain an excuse to go to war. Same with Pearl Harbour.

Basically all attacks on America (even the spanish american war's vessel attack which has been admitted was a complete lie) have led to a war which America wanted to be in on, but couldn't because of their constitution. I don't think any other country would do that.

I never said they didn't provoke those attacks. I said they didn't see them coming because they thought they couldn't be touched directly by war, and I wasn't talking about their government either. Also, as three people already pointed out, I now know Britain was attacked by the IRA a few times.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London#Irish_republican_attacks_during_.22the_Troubles.22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Just some examples...

Fair enough, I knew there were some but not that many. I still find it hard to sympathise when I actually come from an area that had a high rate of bombings, though.

The point is though that America didn't care for Britain, they were all for the IRA. No sympathy is expected.

Yeah, I think that's bullocks. The ignorant may have sympathised with them, but I find hard to believe more than a few Americans thought that the IRA, a group that killed as many Catholics from the Republic as it did Anglicans form the North, were a noble group of freedom fighters.

 

[imnot]

There probably would not have been a series of wars afterwards.
I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).

Well, at least not on the wrong nation.

How would Americans react if this sort of thing happened in another country?

British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IRA didn't attack Britain directly. They retarded-ly bombed the sh*t out of there own country, but they didn't attack Britain. You can't really pull the victim card there, I'm afraid.

OT; I doubt it would be as big a deal. America seemed to think that no matter what they did war would never directly touch they're country. That's why Pearl Harbour was such a big deal for them in WWII.

Err, yes they did, on several occasions, for example:

Brighton hotel bombing
1996 Docklands bombing
1993 Bishopsgate bombing
Hyde Park and Regent's Park bombings
M62 coach bombing
Birmingham pub bombings
Guildford pub bombings
Deal barracks bombing

Also, Northern Ireland still counts as the UK.

Trust the Irish to target pubs for a terrorist attack XD

OT: It would have spun off an a crazy new time strea mawhere the doctor would end up at soem point.

 

[Amplify]

If it happened in England I'd do what I always do and you should too, which is to not let it take over your way of life but instead to mock it mercilessly. I don't care how "terrible" something is, it's only once it beats you mentally that you have lost to it.

Spoiler

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[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Err, yes they did, on several occasions, for example:

Brighton hotel bombing
1996 Docklands bombing
1993 Bishopsgate bombing
Hyde Park and Regent's Park bombings
M62 coach bombing
Birmingham pub bombings
Guildford pub bombings
Deal barracks bombing

*Sigh, I can see I'm going to have to edit that post because of that "direct attack" comment. Just scroll up the page a bit.

Also, Northern Ireland still counts as the UK.

I know that, I'm not a retard, but geographically speaking it's;
a) Not part of Britain
b) Part of the isle of Ireland.

Edit; You'll also find that the bombings effected the Republic much more than they effected Britain.

 

[Aprilgold]

It would be called 11/9, because the american date system is stupid.

Wait, America did the whole DAY then MONTH thing? Fuck America, go back to school and learn the PROPER way of dates, I mean god Country, LEARN IT!

Anyways, I would react about 80% the people over the oceans do to USA's 11/9 accident.
"Oh, so sad. So utterly tragic."
Then within a day.
"I don't give a shit."

Also, people, I doubt your country wouldn't do something similar to the USA, were not that thick. Maybe not a whole WAR, but the 9/11 or 11/9 thing would happen. *Also, I said 9/11 so that I would be Ironic, I pointed it out to ruin your laughter, you mad? {I'm kidding, still though, I KILLED THE JOY}*

 

[briankoontz]

There already has been another 9/11 in another country.

September 11, 1973 is the date that lives in infamy in Chile. Their president was overthrown in a coup and the country was terrorized for a couple decades by a corporatist totalitarian military regime supported by the United States.

Interestingly perhaps, the number 911 was only adopted as an emergency telephone number a few years earlier in the US, in 1968. Prior to the adoption of 911 as the emergency number September 11 was not a notable date for emergencies, with two happening in merely 33 years subsequently.

What makes the attack in 2001 especially notable is that the US is the world's biggest bully, and one never expects the school bully to be given a bloody nose. Those in Ifaq and Afghanistan may note that one might very well expect a bully when punched in the nose to go on a rampage.

 

[ThetaNova]

I can think of no other country on the earth that would use a terrorist attack by a small group of fanatics as a reason to declare war on another nation(s).

Austro-Hungarian Empire?

...and that shit lead too WW1, WW2 and posibly "the cold war" and vietnam.

 

[bauke67]

Than maybe they'd finally get it right and call it 11/9, like every other country.

 

[Rabish Bini]

Yeah, 11/9 was terrible.

Wait, we're talking about the 1974 Eastern Airlines Flight 212 crash yes?