What if a major publisher was controlled by SJWs?

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2015, the SWJs take over.

They start work on the most inclusive, least offensive game ever. They pour millions upon millions of dollars into giving each and every NPC a fleshed out background and making them a fully realised person, so that they aren't mere background decoration. In the game's narrative, no character is at any point acted upon by any other character, because this would make them an object!

After several years, they come up with a game where nobody is ever presented as a victim or an object. To this end, each NPC just sits in his or her (or xis or xer) box and does nothing, and the player character also does nothing. But at least you can customise your ingame avatar to be a half-carribean/half-korean transgendered woman!

burnout02urza said:
At some point, they'll just turn on each other like a swarm of monkeys with knives. They'd kill each other for not being 'politically correct enough'.

Such is the nature of the beast.
Lord of the Flies but with 3rd wave feminists?
 

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It would really depend on whether I could play as a spider.

If spiders aren't represented, and not just as low-to middle level enemies in caves or dark forest settings - so stereotypical, and always as cannon fodder!- then I call this project arachnist and bugsogynistic and take my money elsewhere.

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filthy mammals! ooh! shot across the bow! What you got, you milky-teated, live-birthing, mouth-breathing cuddlebloods?

(obviously not a male spider, they are useless. They have tiny brains. It's science.)



OT: I dunno. Did the game look fun? Maybe their first couple of projects are about games being fun. If the company's focus is on making games that entertain, then I reckon it doesn't matter who is in charge.

Are people who want equality in games, or the chance for others to have the protagonist spotlight, really so reviled? That makes me sad.
 

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burnout02urza said:
At some point, they'll just turn on each other like a swarm of monkeys with knives. They'd kill each other for not being 'politically correct enough'.

Such is the nature of the beast.
You've made three posts within a very short time of each other. I'm not sure if you know this, but it's much easier to just edit a post and add what you were going to say.

OT: If a major publisher was controlled by a certain phrase I refuse to use, they'd publish games that they like.
 

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Pogilrup said:
Ugh I hate having to type those three letters, S-J-W.

Anyways it is an unlikely scenario, but what if the same minds that currently dominate the gaming press finally managed to succeed in taking control of AAA game publisher?

IMO it would certainly produce some interesting AAA games.

What if people who use pejorative terms like "SJW" finally managed to succeed in taking control of AAA game publisher?
 

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Don Incognito said:
Pogilrup said:
Ugh I hate having to type those three letters, S-J-W.

Anyways it is an unlikely scenario, but what if the same minds that currently dominate the gaming press finally managed to succeed in taking control of AAA game publisher?

IMO it would certainly produce some interesting AAA games.

What if people who use pejorative terms like "SJW" finally managed to succeed in taking control of AAA game publisher?
I apologize for the lack of a better word.
 

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Looks like we're going to find out. It appears Anita Sarkeesian is a consultant for Mirrors' Edge 2.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/TheKodu/the-sarkeesian-the-dice-and-the-mirror--235992.phtml
 

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Don Incognito said:
What if people who use pejorative terms like "SJW" finally managed to succeed in taking control of AAA game publisher?
Then we'll get games like the ones we've currently getting. Or like the ones we get from Japan. I don't really see the downside: Those people just want the status quo to continue, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I certainly wouldn't mind them making games that are heavier on the violence and the sexuality, though.

Bad Jim said:
Looks like we're going to find out. It appears Anita Sarkeesian is a consultant for Mirrors' Edge 2.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/TheKodu/the-sarkeesian-the-dice-and-the-mirror--235992.phtml
Oh, this is going to be amazing. I await the imminent trainwreck.
 

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Worst case scenario: They'd attempt to make a few SJW themed games and they'd either succeed or fail. And maybe there'd be a few social media wars about it, but otherwise life would continue as normal. Truthfully though assuming a SJW did manage to get control of a majour publisher they'd still have to answer to the company's board of directors which are driven by one thing and one thing only: money.
 

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Bankruptcy probably would happen.

Random trolls and kooks don't make good businessmen.

Even if you take regular internet activists (like Anita for example), it still would not end well.
Businessmen with less scruples and more leadership should be much better at achieving profits than a bunch of inexperienced idealists.
Night elves are sexist and military shooters show much violence: cancel WOW and COD!
 

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...It probably be the exact same types of games but with a woman being the main role instead of a man. Oh no. What horror.
 

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veloper said:
Businessmen with less scruples and more leadership should be much better at achieving profits than a bunch of inexperienced idealists.
Explains why EA is doing so well and Valve is filing for bankruptcy.

Valve might be overcome with a slightly different form of idealism, but businessmen with no scruples rarely produce anything good in a creative industry like gaming. You need actual artists and people with vision to do that. Giving too much power to the businessmen gets you present day EA, THQ, Ubisoft of the past several years, etc. All huge corporations that are, respectively, reviled by fans and struggling to earn money, non-existent because they went bankrupt, and completely reviled by fans.

Yeah, sounds like the businessmen, MBA's and marketing people really know what's up.
 

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They would probably be caught buying services from prostitutes towards gaming journalists to achieve publicity and good reviews, then calling it harassment when someone criticizes them for it
 

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Isn't this BioWare? I feel like this is basically BioWare. Looking at BSN, it certainly seems that way. Not to mention I got called homophobic for criticizing DA2.

Meh, BioWare makes alright games. Okay, maybe not lately, but I'm keeping an eye on Inquisition. It looks like a real return to form for BioWare. And I try to judge a product on it's merits, not who made it or what they do in their free time. I mean, a lot of people depend on BioWare for income. Feels wrong to deny them all money just because there's some prominent staff member that I disagree with.
 

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They would go out of business really really fast. SJW is just loud, they are far from being a majority of actually important to the average Joe. They have no idea about business as it seems because they put "justic" over profit. Also they would make shit games considering that they actually believe Gone Home is anything but awful. Not even a game.

Pogilrup said:
Real or not, those journalists obviously want to change the industry.
No they don't. They just want more clicks and SJW topics currently are the perfect click bait because both sides in favor and against are clicking on those articles as if their life depends on it. Journalists, especially gaming "journalists" are all in for money and views. Nothing more.
 

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Vivi22 said:
veloper said:
Businessmen with less scruples and more leadership should be much better at achieving profits than a bunch of inexperienced idealists.
Explains why EA is doing so well and Valve is filing for bankruptcy.

Valve might be overcome with a slightly different form of idealism, but businessmen with no scruples rarely produce anything good in a creative industry like gaming. You need actual artists and people with vision to do that. Giving too much power to the businessmen gets you present day EA, THQ, Ubisoft of the past several years, etc. All huge corporations that are, respectively, reviled by fans and struggling to earn money, non-existent because they went bankrupt, and completely reviled by fans.

Yeah, sounds like the businessmen, MBA's and marketing people really know what's up.
As a publisher and as a developer, Valve don't get much done. How long have we been waiting for the next HL2 episode again?

It's just that as a distributor (Steam) that Valve have a goldmine and they can happily muck about, just as long as they don't mess up Steam.
 

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I'm going with the understanding of .... 'moderate SJW and Twitter users'? Mind you I don't use twitter so...

A game would be made, with good characters and good coverage(Male female black white latino etc), story would probably be above average though still cliche'd, gameplay probably up in the air but decent bet on a slower gameplay, less twitch. All and all, not a bad game. Maybe it's interesting, maybe it does something new. Who can say.

But it would then be crushed by WoW, CoD, Street Fighter, Free to play titles, and other big earners. Then the stockholders/CEOs get upset that they aren't making money, people get fired/moved around, and Game 2 has multiplayer tacked on with micropayments.

Do yah see how this works?!? You can swap my second paragraph with whatever you actually think could happen and this would still probably be the result. I'm sorry people, especially those that claim to fight for diversity, but if you aren't going to actually buy the games you're trying to get made, you'll see one of them made, die horribly, and then no one tries again for awhile.

A publisher controlled by SJW is a pretty silly idea unless they actually form one themselves. But for mental exercise, I see it flopping if no one actually buys the game they make in enough numbers.
 

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Winnosh said:
Can someone explain to me why the term Social Justice Warrior is supposed to be a bad thing? Isn't that something you should want to be? A person who works towards the good of others?
The term has been co-opted by extremist third wave feminists who could be likened to a hate group.