What if they make a movie like Inglourious Basterds but for Native Americans

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el grandos tabetos

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I noticed many people cheered and applauded with joy when seeing a group of Jews sadistically butchering Nazis.
So I'm wondering, would an audience have the same gleeful reaction if they saw a movie about a group of Native Americans going into White territory and brutally torturing and killing White people?
 

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If they were the people, the exact same people, who in a previous scene had been shown killing and butchering unarmed or captive native americans then yeah i would since obviously they did something awful. If the people being killed are merely the descendants of the people who actually committed the atrocities then obviously no.
 

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native americans and whites are far more broad than jews vs Nazis.

You can do a movie around a particular tribe vs say...the American Cavalry (whom are almost always the villians in the wild west type movies). Having a bunch of Native Americans come in a torture/kill a bunch of shopowners wouldn't be something that is cheered.
 

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As said above; it would probably do well outside the US.
I'd pay to see that and I haven't been to the cinema since Inglorious Basterds, actually.
 

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It depends on the reasoning really. Django Unchained had fairly the same premise and did well, so following along a revenge or getting back at the people (the specific people) that hurt them story then it would do fine. Just having Native Americans running into places to kill and torture that would picture them horribly. I believe that would be the biggest problem with it other than a scant few thinking it's unpatriotic.
 

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Perhaps an Inglorious Bastards version of an escape from the "war relocation" camps for Japanese-Americans. The enemy would be the abusive guards and other violent staff. This possibility seems more concentrated in terms of the victims and the enemies as opposed to separating on the basis of race for both. I know that there would be several interesting court cases associated with Native Americans earning their land back through American court, but...
 

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I can safely say I think a movie like that would work just fine. It just needs to do a good job of distancing those who did wrong to the Native Americans and those who had nothing to do with it. I'd be surprised if that wasn't Tarantino's next film.

Django did a great job of it, killing a bunch evil, white, AMERICAN, slave owners. If you can make the audience root for the hero's's revenge then you'll have a fine movie on your hand.

Edit: Although, I'd like to seem some movies portray none violent Native Americans, that'd be a breath of fresh air.
 

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el grandos tabetos said:
I noticed many people cheered and applauded with joy when seeing a group of Jews sadistically butchering Nazis.
So I'm wondering, would an audience have the same gleeful reaction if they saw a movie about a group of Native Americans going into White territory and brutally torturing and killing White people?
I'm not sure if this is an attempt to be edgy and controversial, you misspoke, or you just didn't think this through.

For starters, lumping all white people into one boat is no different than declaring all Arabic people as terrorists or all blacks as criminals; in other words, it's racist as all hell.

2nd, I imagine something like this would get the same reaction as if the "Basterds" had walked into a random town in Germany or maybe Italy and started butchering random people. In other words: revulsion.

3rd, from a purely financial basis, the movie would flop. Tarantino was smart by utilizing two groups that are, for all intents and purposes, universally hated: Nazis and slave-owners. 'White people' are generally not so universally hated (except by racists).
 

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To be honest my only issue with the idea (apart from the whole 'all white people' thing) is how you'd get spears and bows looking effective against six-shooters and rifles.

Sort that little problem out and I'm all for it.
 

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el grandos tabetos said:
I noticed many people cheered and applauded with joy when seeing a group of Jews sadistically butchering Nazis.
So I'm wondering, would an audience have the same gleeful reaction if they saw a movie about a group of Native Americans going into White territory and brutally torturing and killing White people?
I believe Last of the Mohicans did something like this. It's been years since I've seen that movie so if someone wants to chime in here that'd be appreciated.

And the thing is, you know that Nazi's did bad things to the Jewish populace among other groups. They were scene torturing Jews. So if it was just to show people getting killed for the fun of it without any reason at all, then no, it wouldn't be ok. If these people had been shown or known to have killed or hurt Native Americans then its perfectly fine. As a matter of fact just showing them butchering people for no reason would just portray them to be a bunch of violent savages, which just isn't the case almost the entire time (there were some very savage groups but let's not judge everyone by those standards).
 

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Squilookle said:
To be honest my only issue with the idea (apart from the whole 'all white people' thing) is how you'd get spears and bows looking effective against six-shooters and rifles.

Sort that little problem out and I'm all for it.
Native Americans got their hands on (and used) firearms in various battles. Against Custer, for example.
 

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I would personally be super down for it. I think the best possible way to do it would be to show a group of Natives walking the Trail of Tears and then have their "Hitler" be Andrew Jackson. It gives extra good motivation, it lets insecure white people pretend like they're completely separate because it was just one man who did the evil, and it gives the story an immediately good villain because honestly, Jackson was insane.

I'm surprised it hasn't already been done actually. (Oh wait actually I'm not Natives are kind of universally ignored in Hollywood)
 

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MrMixelPixel said:
Edit: Although, I'd like to seem some movies portray none violent Native Americans, that'd be a breath of fresh air.
Check out the film Black Robe. It's about the journey of a Jesuit Missionary from Samuel de Champlain's settlement in present day Quebec City to Saint Marie among the Hurons, where the Jesuits had established a missionary. The Hurons who act as the Jesuit's guides are mostly peaceful, if wary of the europeans they travel with.

Then the Iroquois attack. It's hard to find examples of non violent aboriginals, considering that they waged war with each other before the Europeans ever set foot on the continent. But the film does a good job of portraying the differences between the cultures.

As for Native Americans massacring white people?

Ironically, those very same Hurons are the aggressors in this film, given that they maintained their close relationship with the French to the point where they stayed allies as the war broke out with the colonies.
 

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I would watch it. There would be potential for interesting movies, like the Seminoles vs Jackson's troops or even during the revolution when the colonial militia was fucking over tribes. Jackson needs to be a villain in more movies because he was close to it in real life sometimes.
Or hell, I would like the native's side of the battle of little bighorn. Hollywood has tons of history to chose from but they;re too busy being lazy with remakes.

Extra: When i was googling custer's last stand the first result for custer was custer's revenge.
Holy Shit.
 

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I would absolutely love it. Although the country that spends the most going to the movies wouldn't show up. Still, they could do it on a smaller budget. Doesn't take alot of CGI to make an inglorious bastard style, just practical effects and settings.
 

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The only question I have is: Would dear old Mr. Quint be directing this one too? if so, sign me up! I don't think anyone else besides the Tarantino could handle this properly.
 

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EyeReaper said:
The only question I have is: Would dear old Mr. Quint be directing this one too? if so, sign me up! I don't think anyone else besides the Tarantino could handle this properly.
Yeah, important to look at those Native American's feet...