What if they make a movie like Inglourious Basterds but for Native Americans

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teebeeohh

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Maybe I watched a different movie but most of the soldier that are killed in inglorious basterds are not shown committing atrocities before. I know anybody wearing a Wehrmacht uniform is basically ok to kill in movies because they were all evil but most soldiers were poor sobs who got drafted. Most were just guys trying not to die and not murderous monsters.

Ot: yeah, I would be down four that, maybe apply the social commentary with a fine brush and not with a paintball gun
 

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thaluikhain said:
EyeReaper said:
The only question I have is: Would dear old Mr. Quint be directing this one too? if so, sign me up! I don't think anyone else besides the Tarantino could handle this properly.
Yeah, important to look at those Native American's feet...
Hey, I'm not going to complain about him pandering to his own fetishes, write what you love and all. Hell, the main heroine's name should mean "Toes of the Great Wolf" or something like that, while we're at it, and she'll be the only character who eschews the moccasins of the village so she can be barefoot all the time, and paint with the colors of the wind and all that
 

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CarnageRacing00 said:
Don't you know that even though only the rich owned slaves you are personally responsible for it? Every white person should feel guilty about the possibility that one of their ancestors may have said the N-Word.
 

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teebeeohh said:
Maybe I watched a different movie but most of the soldier that are killed in inglorious basterds are not shown committing atrocities before. I know anybody wearing a Wehrmacht uniform is basically ok to kill in movies because they were all evil but most soldiers were poor sobs who got drafted. Most were just guys trying not to die and not murderous monsters.

Ot: yeah, I would be down four that, maybe apply the social commentary with a fine brush and not with a paintball gun
The basterds on the other hand were murderous monsters. I think that's something most forget.
 

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I dont really care OP, I just want to watch more Native Americans in any shape or form. They are awesome.

I'd give my left foot and half my dick for a Red Dead Redemption game starring a native american.
 

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As a history major, threads like this make me weep for my profession.

People forget (or perhaps ignore?) the fact that the Indians did some pretty heinous shit as well. It wasn't just "big bad powerful white man" stomping "poor meek noble indians."

Both sides were constantly doing things we would try as crimes against humanity today and because of that, it kept escalating. The notion that Native Americans were innocent victims simply trying to defend themselves is completely wrong.
 

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NightmareWarden said:
Perhaps an Inglorious Bastards version of an escape from the "war relocation" camps for Japanese-Americans. The enemy would be the abusive guards and other violent staff. This possibility seems more concentrated in terms of the victims and the enemies as opposed to separating on the basis of race for both. I know that there would be several interesting court cases associated with Native Americans earning their land back through American court, but...
... That actually sounds awesome. It would be great to see George Takei in such a thing, probably be nice and cathartic for him, having experienced the reality of internment camps. Then again, considering George Takei's general attitude toward violence, maybe not...

OT: As has been mentioned ad nauseum at this point, that would only really work if the specific white people involved had actually committed the atrocities, but given that, I'd totally pay to see such a thing.
 

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Jacco said:
Both sides were constantly doing things we would try as crimes against humanity today and because of that, it kept escalating. The notion that Native Americans were innocent victims simply trying to defend themselves is completely wrong.
Exactly. There are things you can definitely blame on the Europeans, such as enabling the Natives with firearms in exchange for services and trade, and the whole "infest the population with small pox blankets and then take their land". But the first nations were always at war with each other. The Europeans just capitalized on it.
 

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Oh yay, race baiting . . . that's always fun. I mean, it's an interesting thought experiment, but you're neglecting so many different things: the difference in times, the economic situations, and others. You're also trying to compare the collision between two cultures to the interactions between the majority and a sub-culture.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
There are things you can definitely blame on the Europeans, such as enabling the Natives with firearms in exchange for services and trade, and the whole "infest the population with small pox blankets and then take their land".
Actually, no. There was talk of deliberately infecting them with smallpox, but for one reason or another, it didn't happen...not due to any morality or anything.

They did accidentally spread smallpox to the locals, though.
 

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The problem with a historical point of view like that comes from the diversity of colonies that came to America prior to the Revolutionary War. And also the points of view skewed by both sides. I'm a fan of history but I take everything I read with a grain of salt only because we have both contemporary analysis which may or may not be biased due to personal politics, and the historical viewpoints which may or may not be biased due to the environment.
Its not to say that there wasn't wrongdoing by the colonies, the conquistadors, settlers, etc and also from the natives. Does every white person get branded with a mark because they are white? Do descendants like myself who had ancestors that possibly came into conflict with the natives have to own some form of guilt for things we were not apart of ourselves? Why make a movie that perpetuates a form of reverse racism, blame the white man for the actions of some white people? Perpetuate hatred for what, some form of social justice porn? Thats what I feel a movie like this would turn out to be. Part of growing as a race and culture is accepting that atrocities have been committed by humanity for over 10,000 years and not continuing this idea that the sins of the ancestors be pushed down to their descendants. A movie like this would only serve to push an agenda that all white folk are bad folk and any other race that feels they've been slighted are owed justice.
I do not condone anything that wouldn't help racial relations, including taking ownership of the actions of people long dead.
Should we also make movies showing Jews taking up arms and slaughtering Egyptians for the years of oppression and slavery their people were subject to? What purpose would it serve except to inflame more animosity between today's Muslim's and Isreal?
Just a few thoughts here and there. Maybe I am taking things to an extreme... it is after all 5am and I haven't had coffee yet so my thought processes are a bit off.
 

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el grandos tabetos said:
I noticed many people cheered and applauded with joy when seeing a group of Jews sadistically butchering Nazis.
Then many people saw a different movie than i did. Ingloriuos bastards whole point was that by fighting the Nazis the other side have become just as bad and "Evil". The Bastards were no better than the men they killed.
 

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I actually thought Inglorious Basterds was one of the few things with Nazis in them to remind you that Nazis were people too, and not all were Jew haters, just some were Germans who did not want to be destroyed by the allies.

Besides, I don't condone all things whites do. If there was a movie where the Native Americans beat up the evil white people who were trying to murder them sure. If it was just a movie about them raiding peaceful settlements and murdering everyone in some sort of "karmic revenge" thing, no. Because it was wrong when the whites did it!

I don't mind when things show a brutal punishment of wrongdoers. I don't like when innocents are punished for simply being similar to them. Not everyone agrees with "their own kind".