BNguyen said:
careful said:
Aerosteam 1908 said:
Erase all but one language............ sucks for translators and foreign language teachers though.
wouldnt work........... but overall multilingualism is something to be humanly proud of not to regret.
well, technically, the way I see it, is that we all use the same worlds but with forms unqiue to each language - "same definition, different spelling" point of view - we only come up with new words to describe or define something we have not yet encountered - by limiting usage to one language (if it had been done since the dawn of man) we would all have the same understanding of everything and be able to take a step forward not as individuals, but as a collective group - to be able to experience the world from different views but ultimately be able to tell each other in a way everyone can understand, however, the choice of language would have to be an extensive one with many words with many meanings, not languages that try to simplify matters
thats a pretty well reasoned way to put it, but let me pose a few questions that beg to be answered:
- [li]"by limiting usage to one language we would all have the same understanding of everything" it seems to me that saying it this way is implicitly suggesting an assumption that 'understanding' a concept and 'communicating' a concept through a linguistic medium are near one and the same ie understanding (as a cognitive process) is not independent of the individuals liguistic knowledge. but what is the rational behind this? does everyone not understand mathematics, art, relationships all the same way irrespective of langauge? i think to prove your point here you would need to declare a propistion which is true in one langauge but false in another, which is impossible if you beleive that translations perserve the truth/falsity status of propositions.[/li]
[li]"we only come up with new words to describe or define something we have not yet encountered" what about the following phenomena: "zoological garden" being the entymological precurssor to "zoo". you cant say that this is a case of one word just being 'spelled' differently beacuse this is an instance of two words becoming one, wheres as spelling is an operation on single words. in this case there is nothing conceptually new in the mind of the individual, this is just a matter of combining words for the sake of efficiency. so in other words, there are other operations that generate new words besides a word generating operation used for naming novel concepts.[/li]
but in the first place, no finite list of words would ever be able to encapsulate all meaningul entites or experiences in human life. just think of trying to name the natural numbers, for every n we call it something, but theres always gunna be a n+1, so naming the natural numbers would require an infinite number of distinct words. to remedy this what the langauge needs is an operation for generating new words based off existing words. that way starting with a finite base of words, new words can be constructed by various algorithms to generate an infinitely big list (or at least sufficienty big so that from the human mind in all practicality it is infinite). conversely, just saying this the other way around, for a langauge of this kind every instance of a word would be either a base word or had been constructed from base words.
this is actually the case for all human langauges (the existance of a base set of words), and whats more is that these base sets are identitcal between human langauges (with the relationship of identity being defined as identity of semantic content). its quite easy to justify this to yourself, imagine you go to a foreign country, say japan, and you need to ask where you can find food so you ask someone "how do you say 'food' in japanese?" why would you assume that japanese has a word for food? because intuitively, you know that a base set exists in japanese that encapsulates such commonly encounted concepts as 'food', 'hello', 'head', 'pain', 'water', etc.
so really the way langauges differ, is in three ways:
1)how the words are represented in speech (phonology and phonetics)
2)how the base words are combined to get new words (morphology)
3)how the base words and derivations are appended with language specific words, and then ordered to produce a comprehensible speech act (syntax)
so, to unify langauge, since we would already have a base set to work with (a semantic core), we would only have to specify the above 3 parameters. becuase of its considerable arbitrariness, a writing system could be defined later; it is not nearly as important as the other 3 parameters. basically my thesis here is that to maintain unification, you have to prevent any and all change in these 3 domains specifically; since change implies linguistic diversification. i think this program would be absolutely miserable lolz...