What is a "hardcore" gamer?

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JellySlimerMan

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If you fit any of these categories that i have already posted before, then you are either an abused wife or an Hardcore gamer. Same thing really. (tecnically it isnt even mine, i just copy pasta it because seems to embrace everything that is wrong in gaming):

*The person who looks at Shadow Complex with tears on his eyes because he loves the game, but if he PAYS for it, the developer is going to use the founding on making anti-gay rights propaganda. So the person has to download it ilegaly knowing that the franchize will not move foward if he doesnt pay, but at least some people that he doesnt know will be happy.

*The person that can no longer pick up a game from the store and play it ASAP, nor enjoy games anymore because it HAS to: carefully research the game press, pre-release,how many promises are going to be broken by the developers THEMSELVES and not the marketing department, reviews that ARENT bombarded with a suspicious ammount of the game adverticing, how much of the ACTUAL game is in the disc that it paid and how many DLC he is going to pay next just to get the ending of a story, survive the journey to BUY the game while avoiding religious and feminist protesters because the word "*****" was used on the trailer and one of the Protagonist is a woman taking orders from a man (regardless of the context), and surf the forums detailing the problems that the game has and that whatever innovation was brough here, was already done before..........just for that person to be called "An entitled hedonistic piece of shit, who is the cancer that is destroying games as art"

*The person who withnessed the fall of Bullfrog and the Ultima series and many innocents more in the hands in Electronic Arts. And yet, when its absolutely clear that they see games as products before they are even CONSIDERED art, people STILL think that the Mass Effect 3 ending fiasco its the fault of the gamers and not the executives that pulled the strings AGAIN.

*The person who cant give a honest opinion about the boot babes without being labeled as sexist. Even if the intention was to ilustrate how OBVIOUS it is that the exec of the game are pulling a Turd Polishing tecnique for mass appeal to avoid using that same money on the ACTUAL GAME.

*The person who watches in horror on how the last 10 years of gaming history remain forgotten. Where developers still think that pulling something as magnifiently done as a final boss in Planescape Torment is "so video-gamey", and still being lauded as the ONLY people who bring innovation to the industry even if it was done already.

*The person who sees the "artistic integrity" as a cheap device for future lazy developers to excuse their lack of creativity and humility in admitid that they are just in for the money. Thus with that excuse on the table, developers can never be criticized for their faults because they expect the audience to shut down their brains and enjoy the madness. Because after all its just a game, right? there is no objective analizis because everything is subjective. And for that, you can enjoy our crap along with other mastepieces like Birth of a Nation, Mein Kampf, Twilight and Jack & Jill.
If the audience is too stupid to care about the effort that an artist has to offer, then why they should even TRY to elevate the medium as an art form? Doesnt that hurt the medium even MORE if the audience were the problem? as some people have said?
 

rbstewart7263

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MeChaNiZ3D said:
See, this whole thread, I don't get. Where does all the elitism get implied, why are hardcore gamers automatically douches, why is looking down on other people part of the definition? I would, if pressed, agree that I am a hardcore gamer, but wouldn't use the term myself. I think a hardcore gamer is willing to put in the effort to thoroughly understand a game's mechanics and as a result can play the game well. A hardcore gamer is in a position where they can offer advice to others, whether they do or not. There are many varieties, but I don't initially think "Oh, a douche then".
He has a point does anyone not see themselves becoming the douches that they talk about the very instant that they belittle them?
 

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Everyone seems to have their own definition of the term. I think of it as someone who plays a large (possibly unhealthy) amount of games. That doesn't make it absolutely corrent though.
 

razor343

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The only logical definition I could think of is someone who plays a lot of games...That's it. It doesn't have to be a particular type of game, just A LOT of fucking games.
 

Nomanslander

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Hardcore is a term popularized in the 90s describing someone that goes to some extreme in the pursuit of a hobby, recreation, or even job.

For instance, there is a difference from someone that regularly skateboards to get around compared to someone that turns it into an X-sport and starts flipping trips that would probably lead to broken bones and injuries.

A hardcore gamer is someone that feel unchallenged by generally most games, and would probably crave something way more murderously difficult like playing I want To Be the Guy, Battletoads, or - as mentioned - Dark Souls.

Now, of course, some sense of elitism among this group can follow. I've stressed in the past on these forums that I don't think there's anything wrong with that as long as these so called elitist don't turn around and begin belittling other players who are mostly just unwilling to take gaming to that extreme.

Personally, I believe there are two types of gaming modes. Those that play for the experience, and those that play for the challenge. As for myself, I've flip flopped amongst these two depending on the game. And, I'm guessing that's almost everyone.

You can hate Dark Souls because you find the game boring, yet, you can spend hours on a CoD match trying to earn top rank.

Also, hardcore gamer could emphasize the amount of time you tend to put into games. So if you've clocked over 300 hours on Fallout 3. That's pretty hardcore, I'd say.

:p
 

KarmaTheAlligator

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Last time I got a reply to this query, it was "someone who plays more than 4 hours a day and invest a lot of their time into studying how games work (as in, make/read guides, bugs, glitches and such) or who knows a series inside out".

Personally I don't see the point of the "hardcore" label. A gamer is a gamer. After that you have varying degrees of skill, and those can't really be classified by just one word.
 

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Shocksplicer said:
Are you the sort of self-aggrandising douchbag who unironically refers to oneself as "Hardcore"?

If so, then congratulations! You are way hardcore!
Unfortunately for you, most other people DO use the term ironically.
You couldn't be further from the truth. I play a lot of games and enjoy a challenge, but I only really play games for fun or a really good story. So in other words, I'm the same as many people on this forum.
 

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Hardcore gamers are a term that varies from person to person and because it varies so widely I dont really think it can be defined in this day and age (much like the definition of art). It was originally a term used to express how dedicated a person was to gaming or how uncompromising they were toward other forms of media when they had games. So it had both positive and negative meanings.

In recent years the idea of a hardcore gamer has changed so much that it almost holds no meaning except in a personal sense. I still use the word as a means of expressing a persons dedication toward gaming as entertainment and a lifestyle. I consider myself a hardcore gamer by my own subjective definition because Im dedicated to exploring our medium. Its a kind of passion of mine to watch the industry, criticize the art developed from it, and just play games of all kinds. There's no game that I wont try but games that often seen as "casual" like angry birds arent for me. My personal preferences are such that I enjoy games I can really sink my teeth into, games with real depth, philosophical ideas, beautiful art, interesting narrative. That kind of stuff. As you might imagine that leads me to play games of nearly all genre's.

Personally as one of the well known fans of Dark souls on the forum I dont think anyone is less of a gamer if they havnt played it or even dont like it. Ive always said that Dark souls is a very niche game and the cut down definition of niche is "Not for everyone". Play what you like on whatever you like and have fun with it. I think its a tragedy when someone spends their free time doing something they dont like to do.
 

Shocksplicer

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BoredAussieGamer said:
Shocksplicer said:
Are you the sort of self-aggrandising douchbag who unironically refers to oneself as "Hardcore"?

If so, then congratulations! You are way hardcore!
Unfortunately for you, most other people DO use the term ironically.
You couldn't be further from the truth. I play a lot of games and enjoy a challenge, but I only really play games for fun or a really good story. So in other words, I'm the same as many people on this forum.
So am I. And, like most people on this forum, I have the good sense to refrain from using the term "Hardcore".

What I said was nothing against people who like challenging or deep games (that would be hypocrytical).
I was saying that the term "hardcore" is used almost exclusively by douchbags who lack perspective.
 

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Time investment figures in, but then there are people who play Angry Birds with a significant amount of time invested in that game. Does that make them hardcore? I think it's a combination of factors that include what you play, how often you game in general, and how long you've been into gaming.

I wouldn't call someone who plays puzzle games on their phone a hard core gamer, nor would I call someone who only plays first person shooters. Even if you play FPS for money, that makes you professional,but not really hard core. Not sure I can say I'd be into gaming if all I play is one genre of game.

I mean, I have most of my old games, I have many of my old consoles, and I've been gaming for 20 plus years. I'm def hardcore.

My thing is that the label is super corn ball-ish. The "core" thing definitely started in the 90's and it's very weak slang. Metalcore, Grindcore, Mathcore...all those labels don't really mean anything to me, but that's just me.

If you can talk for a long time about games, you're definitely hardcore - not just about what's popular, but games that are not popular. You know what a good game is.
 

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I guess a Hardcore Gamer would be that kind of person who would go through multiple games a week beating them all on the hardest difficulty and getting every achievement/trophy. Or it's just one of those things jealous people call other gamers when they're better in every way :p
 

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People who want their opinion to appear to have more weight behind it.
People who want to put themselves above others who aren't like them.
People who are hard for video games.

All three in the end, really.
 

SlaveNumber23

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Someone who refers to themselves as a 'hardcore gamer'? An egotistical douchebag.

Someone I would define as a 'hardcore gamer'? Someone who takes video games way too seriously.
 

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GigaHz said:
I like to think hardcore gamers fall into six categories:

1) Highly competitive gamer (could be professional)
2) Highly obsessive gamer (in a completionist sense)
3) Highly skilled gamer
4) Marathon gamer
5) Masochistic Gamer
6) Dedicated Gamer


1) Highly competitive gamers don't necessarily need to be of high skill, they just need to take a game seriously enough to want to win whenever possible. I don't just mean preferring to win, winning is their one option. Only a small percentage of this type has what it takes to game professionally and many are prone to raging when they have experienced a severe whoopin'.

2) Plays one game for years to uncover any and all secrets. Sometimes, they can be like Masochistic Gamers in that they will do something seemingly arbitrary for the sake of experimentation and will probably examine an internet rumour if it means uncovering something they don't yet know about.

3) Speaks for itself. You know 'good' gamers. These people have the skill of ten of them. You don't know how they got so good. You suspect they may be cheating. Honestly, they scare you a little bit. They are just lucky enough to posses the traits required to thoroughly master a game.

4) Plays a game of Civilization 5 in one sitting... as a warm up. Not opposed to pulling all nighters or "poopsocking". They have way too much free time and it shows. You just hope they don't end up as a news headline at some point in the future.

5) Will play a game on an untested difficulty, despite developer warnings, despite logic, despite the laws of physics. The gamer embodiment of "if there's a will, there's a way". If they can disadvantage themselves in some way, they will do it. Somehow, they always beat the game. This "throws out the challenge" to the next Masochistic gamer to do something even more crippling to one-up his damned brethren.

6) Nothing fancy here, just someone who regularly games. Closest to the definition of hardcore, as in possessing intense loyalty.


Or at least, this is how I see it. I'm sure there are more examples.
I agree with this "chart of hardcore" as it were. While the word itself seems to be thrown around like every other catch phrase (aka Epic, Extreme, etc) the personality behind the word can be broken down into different types, which I think are outlined pretty well here.
 

MammothBlade

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Hardcores bend themselves to play a game, casuals demand that the game bends itself for them.

Casuals place high demands on a game's gratification factors. They want to be impressed, awed, flattered. The game is not supposed to frustrate them.

Hardcores want games to place high demands upon them. They will be disappointed if the game isn't frustrating.

Both categories of gamer are certifiably nuts.