Why do I just know that you played KotOR II. I'm actually gonna play it again and see how many times Kreia says that.Donnyp said:
What is Evil?
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Hurting other people for no good reason.
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Hurting can be done in many ways, so please don't ask me to specify. Because I won't.
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Hurting can be done in many ways, so please don't ask me to specify. Because I won't.
remember that truly evil people does evil things while they believe they are doing the right thing and that they themselves aren't evil.
Just think about Hitler, do you think he just woke up and said, I'm gonna be a elitist, douche today!?
Just think about Hitler, do you think he just woke up and said, I'm gonna be a elitist, douche today!?
Well, there are many different ways of looking at it, but one of the more popular, and the one I personally prefer, is that evil is when you stop worrying about the effect your actions have on others.
A certain degree of selfishness is normal and healthy. In fact, our whole society is set up with the expectation that you will consider yourself and possibly your close friends and family first. No one has the same knowledge of your needs that you do, so no one else is in the same position to see that they are filled as you are.
The problem comes when your actions start having an effect on others. The ideal situation is trading something you have an excess of and someone else has a shortage of for something that has a reciprocal status. That way both people are better off. Everybody wins. However sometimes that isn't practical and we need to engage in uneven deals hoping that over time it will even out.
Evil, by this definition, would be best explained as a lack of concern for people that leads you to unnecessarily engage in behavior that benefits you while it harms others.
A certain degree of selfishness is normal and healthy. In fact, our whole society is set up with the expectation that you will consider yourself and possibly your close friends and family first. No one has the same knowledge of your needs that you do, so no one else is in the same position to see that they are filled as you are.
The problem comes when your actions start having an effect on others. The ideal situation is trading something you have an excess of and someone else has a shortage of for something that has a reciprocal status. That way both people are better off. Everybody wins. However sometimes that isn't practical and we need to engage in uneven deals hoping that over time it will even out.
Evil, by this definition, would be best explained as a lack of concern for people that leads you to unnecessarily engage in behavior that benefits you while it harms others.
Evil is just a word, and does not exist as such. The definition will vary according to what you have been taught and what this has made you arrive at as an adult.
My personal definition of evil would be doing something bad to another person with the intent of making them suffer.
My personal definition of evil would be doing something bad to another person with the intent of making them suffer.
Evil is just a word, nothing more. If you want to get technical I'd say that evil is unbridled chaos. Anarchy. people who don't really care. People without purpose striving for nothing. Good and Evil, right and wrong. These mean nothing because each side is fighting for good, each side is fighting for right.
Edit #3 on a somewhat side note i'd say this is what evil sounds like because of the harmony of distortion
damn... somewhat ninja'dtzimize said:
Edit #3 on a somewhat side note i'd say this is what evil sounds like because of the harmony of distortion
Aren't "chaos" and "anarchy" also both words? For that matter, isn't "adult" just a word? I don't get why everyone always insists on saying something cannot be defined just because opinions can widely differ. We may not get everyone to agree, but that doesn't mean we should automatically skip straight to "it's relative, thus pointless."rekabdarb said:
I would define it as knowingly and actively working in opposition to the greater good. There are some caveats to this definition. If one ignores the greater good out of fear for his own life he may be merely a coward and not necessarily "evil". So I guess doing so without coercion? I don't know. It's a tough question and a little difficult to define.
EDIT: For example, what EA is attempting to do to the games industry (particularly the PC market.)
Doing things you know are wrong and specifically for that reason.
Causing terror and pain for no other reason then causing terror and pain. Example
Slicing a guy open because you want to make them suffer horribly before you kill them. The thrill of chopping him up. There is no other reason then your desire for sadistic torture. As well you can consciously accept that slicing up a random person is wrong. It's not that you don't care its wrong, you just feel even better knowing what your doing is horrible.
So... Jake killed john because John slept with Jake's wife. Prior to the killing Jake had never met John. Not evil.
Jake killed john because he wanted to see john's family miserable. He wanted them to suffer. Prior to the killing Jake had never met John. Nor had he done anything that can be considered 'deserving' even in the abstract. Evil.
Causing terror and pain for no other reason then causing terror and pain. Example
Slicing a guy open because you want to make them suffer horribly before you kill them. The thrill of chopping him up. There is no other reason then your desire for sadistic torture. As well you can consciously accept that slicing up a random person is wrong. It's not that you don't care its wrong, you just feel even better knowing what your doing is horrible.
So... Jake killed john because John slept with Jake's wife. Prior to the killing Jake had never met John. Not evil.
Jake killed john because he wanted to see john's family miserable. He wanted them to suffer. Prior to the killing Jake had never met John. Nor had he done anything that can be considered 'deserving' even in the abstract. Evil.