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Phishfood

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Mumonk said:
Its the ULTIMATE troll. A bunch of people (4chan probably) decided to make this some sorta "internet cult". They post something that is clearly unfunny and childish, in hopes people will go on the forums and start flaming.

Some guy posts, "ZOMG! 1itt1e p0nieez r deh bestorz!" someone else goes on and says, "Why do you like little retarded kids shows? Are you stupid?" then they get banned or something.

At least that's what it seems to be. I can't for the life of me understand why some kinda little kid, teletubby like show would be popular otherwise.

Because its a FAMILY show. Like many "kids" things it works on several levels and does indeed have something to offer to everyone. Lots of 80s nostalgia too.

deserteagleeye said:
I don't really get it either but I've been wanting to use this.http://www.determinismsucks.net/archive/1289847738726.gif
Argh, I remember that show. What was it? Thats gonna bug me. That was off the credits.
 

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Phishfood said:
Argh, I remember that show. What was it? Thats gonna bug me. That was off the credits.
Dexter's Lab, I believe. Also a great show.
 

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Phishfood said:
Mumonk said:
Its the ULTIMATE troll. A bunch of people (4chan probably) decided to make this some sorta "internet cult". They post something that is clearly unfunny and childish, in hopes people will go on the forums and start flaming.

Some guy posts, "ZOMG! 1itt1e p0nieez r deh bestorz!" someone else goes on and says, "Why do you like little retarded kids shows? Are you stupid?" then they get banned or something.

At least that's what it seems to be. I can't for the life of me understand why some kinda little kid, teletubby like show would be popular otherwise.

Because its a FAMILY show. Like many "kids" things it works on several levels and does indeed have something to offer to everyone. Lots of 80s nostalgia too.

deserteagleeye said:
I don't really get it either but I've been wanting to use this.http://www.determinismsucks.net/archive/1289847738726.gif
Argh, I remember that show. What was it? Thats gonna bug me. That was off the credits.
Dexter's laboratory, but I can't remember the guy's name. I think it's the episode about Dexter's and Dee Dee's cereal box code fanclub or something.
 

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deserteagleeye said:
I can't remember the guy's name. I think it's the episode about Dexter's and Dee Dee's cereal box code fanclub or something.
Action Hank

...I haven't watched the show in years. Why do I remember that?
 

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Mumonk said:
Its the ULTIMATE troll. A bunch of people (4chan probably) decided to make this some sorta "internet cult". They post something that is clearly unfunny and childish, in hopes people will go on the forums and start flaming.

Some guy posts, "ZOMG! 1itt1e p0nieez r deh bestorz!" someone else goes on and says, "Why do you like little retarded kids shows? Are you stupid?" then they get banned or something.

At least that's what it seems to be. I can't for the life of me understand why some kinda little kid, teletubby like show would be popular otherwise.
Someones clearly never seen the show.
 

Phishfood

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Ahhh, Action Hank.

They got the rings mixed up didn't they? piss takes of GIJoe and MLP (original). Dex ends up at the pony club and DD ends up with action hank.

I didn't spend my college years watching cartoons rather than studying clearly.
 

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Phishfood said:
Ahhh, Action Hank.

They got the rings mixed up didn't they? piss takes of GIJoe and MLP (original). Dex ends up at the pony club and DD ends up with action hank.

I didn't spend my college years watching cartoons rather than studying clearly.
 

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Aidinthel said:
deserteagleeye said:
I can't remember the guy's name. I think it's the episode about Dexter's and Dee Dee's cereal box code fanclub or something.
Action Hank

...I haven't watched the show in years. Why do I remember that?
Because he's a mix of Shaft and Chuck Norris?
 

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Mumonk said:
At least that's what it seems to be. I can't for the life of me understand why some kinda little kid, teletubby like show would be popular otherwise.
That's one possibility. The other is that the show is actually good. Have you seen it? I'd encourage you to give it a try.

 

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Well, what IS so great about Half Life?
Answered many times at the forums.



Part of why many people don't often get the story, is because in most games, they just tell you everything and you don't have to think about the story but in hl2 you have to draw your own conclusions. There happens something and the game doesn't exactly tell you what/why/how etc. You have to think about it yourself and then come up with an answer that makes sense.

The narrative is just different than in most other games. A big part of the story is told through the environment. Let's take for example, the chapter "Highway 17". You drive along the coast and look at the "beautiful" scenery but what you see there is strange, a lot of stranded ships and landing stages far above the sea level. It shows that the sea level has sunk quite a lot in a very short amount of time. Thanks to that you can come to the conclusion that the Combine destroy our environment and need a lot of water, for whatever it is that they're doing (some even say that it's a warning from Valve, to look more after our environment or something like this will happen). Many don't really think about it or barely even notice it and just drive past it.
Another example from "Highway 17". A house is standing beside the road. The game lets you choose, you can just drive and leave it behind you, or you stop the car and go inside it. The house looks deserted, the windows are boarded and the front door doesn't open. On the wall there is a skull sprayed. This shows that the people try to tell others that the house is dangerous and no one should go inside, it's "infested". Upon entering, you get attacked by zombies and after getting rid of them, you look around. You see beds, cupboards, pans and other thing. Now you start to wonder, who lived here, what happened to them? Was it a family, or an outpost of the resistance? It's a perfect example of the cruel way, the Combine use to get rid of people from places, where they don't want them to be. They just shoot the headcrabs inside and then leave the rest to them. Now you're left to wonder, how many people made it out in time, if any at all.

Let's take something much more subtle and insignificant but something that I really like about the narrative. Right before you encounter the Manhacks for the first time in the sewers, you meet a man in an outpost from the resistance and then you two get attacked by the Manhacks. After fending them off, you go on and that man stays back. Shortly after that, you meet again some Manhacks. Now, after destroying every single one of them, most people move on because there is no reason to turn back. But if you do head back to that room with the rebel, a Manhack attacks you, even though you destroyed them all. It must have come through the way which you first entered the room from. Now again after blowing up the Manhack, when you look down, you see the poor guy lying dead on the ground. Most people easily overlook this and who could blame them, the game doesn't give any reason to go back to this room. But just because of that I love this scene. It just shows that you and your immediate surroundings aren't the only thing in the world, things continue to happen even if you don't witness them, they happen almost simultaneously with your actions and the game doesn't tell you at all that this occurred. It just goes unnoticed unless someone tells you about it, or you go back for no reason.

All this, combined with the personality of Gordon Freeman (won't talk about that now), leads to something else that's really good about Half-Life 2. The game is very personal. Everything that happens there, everything that you experience, is your own experience. No one else has it. Only you played the game that way and thought and looked at things that certain way.

I could now go on and on, about the atmosphere, the immersion, the characters, I could write another post with this length about the G-Man alone but I won't. I don't want to force you to like the game. I just tried to show you why I love it so much and why it got so much praise.
I think part of the problem is, that it has been praised so much, that a lot of people expect something entirely different, something like Mass Effect (not that I wish to imply that Mass Effect's Story isn't good) but then they play it for the first time and get disappointed because it wasn't what they had thought it would be.
Of course it's entirely possible that Half-Life 2's style is just not your cup of tea. There doesn't exist something that everyone likes.
...there was also the beginning of the game where Breen was addressing the City 17 inhabitants on the large screen. If you wanted, you could stand there and try to understand what had happened while you were gone, or you could just walk past and they would never break your immersion by imposing arbitrary cutscenes. In similar fashion, there were also the newspaper clippings on walls of the war that raged between the humans and Combines, meaning that you were garnering information from environmental story telling, instead of some tired expository-filled dialogs. And remember how there were anti-Combine posters in Ravenholm, and head crab rockets just beside them...?
HL involves a lot of subtlety, subtext and attention to detail. The other day I was reading an <url=http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MichelMcBrideCharpentier/20110509/7585/Acoustic_Ecologies_HalfLife_2s_City_17.php>article at Gamasutra that was entirely about the acoustic ecology of City 17 - how Valve carefully placed the keynote sounds, sound signals and soundmarks to give the city a unique soundscape.

Even now devs from Homefront and Crysis 2 said that they wanted to emulate HL2's level of pacing (Crysis succeeded, Homefront failed utterly). And there are very few FPS titles that has HL's eye for detail. Go back and play Far Cry, and see how a body dumped in the water floats and is carried downstream. It's the little things that make a game environment so palpable.

And I didn't even scratch the tech. It looked amazing back in 2004, still has better facial animation than most studios today (looking at you Bioware and Bethesda), and the only game that has been modded more than HL2 is probably just HL1.


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People may not appreciate it. Taste differs, I understand. Maybe it doesn't hold up to modern shooters, and you find it a grind. Perfectly acceptable. But just don't go around calling me an irrational Valve fanboy for that.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
What's up with My Little Pony?

What's so great about Half Life?

Why are all PC gamers such a bunch of elitists?

Will you fuck your avatar?


These threads that should be locked on posting.
Don't forget Mass Effect is not an RPG/good game/game.
 

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I should post the Fanfictionist's Dissection I'm working on for MLP:FiM on the Escapist. Hopefully, that will put an end to these threads so we don't have to reiterate what's already been said about it.
 

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Aidinthel said:
That's one possibility. The other is that the show is actually good. Have you seen it? I'd encourage you to give it a try.
I have seen it, and thought it was extremely unfunny as I expected from a kids show. I showed it to my wife, and told her this is become popular among grown men, maybe she sees something I don't, she thought it was "gay", and then my my 7 year old, and a 8 and 6 year old that come over and play with my kid saw it and said it was stupid. I showed it too them with NO BIAS. I just said, "I heard this was a new funny cartoon, why don't you watch it", and gave them a snack and let them watch an episode. Nothing, not one snicker or laugh, as I would expect from them watching something like Barney or Dora the Explorer.

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Mumonk said:
Aidinthel said:
That's one possibility. The other is that the show is actually good. Have you seen it? I'd encourage you to give it a try.
I have seen it, and thought it was extremely unfunny as I expected from a kids show. I showed it to my wife, and told her this is become popular among grown men, maybe she sees something I don't, she thought it was "gay", and then my my 7 year old, and a 8 and 6 year old that come over and play with my kid saw it and said it was stupid. I showed it too them with NO BIAS. I just said, "I heard this was a new funny cartoon, why don't you watch it", and gave them a snack and let them watch an episode. Nothing, not one snicker or laugh, as I would expect from them watching something like Barney or Dora the Explorer.

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Your wife sounds grumpy. Anywho. people are entitled to their own opinions and its up to us bronies to tolerate and love you all the same!
 

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Well we haven't had a pony storm in a few weeks, I suppose it was about time someone else started it up now. For you regardless of intent, I leave this:

It's animation is great, its characters are fleshed out and realized without being stereotypes, the voice acting is phenomenal, the songs are good, the subject matter is excellent, they don't treat the audience like idiots, and the Creator Lauren Faust made it with the intent that adults will be watching it with their daughters, thus she didn't dumb it down.

Lauren Faust was also able to make this happen by telling Hasbro that she wasn't just going to make a twenty minute commercial for the toy-line and actually make people care about what they are buying. Plus, she's the one behind Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, both of which are quite good.
 

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Radoh said:
Plus, she's the one behind Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, both of which are quite good.
Or her husband created those and she did some work on them also.
 

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Aidinthel said:
Radoh said:
Plus, she's the one behind Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, both of which are quite good.
Or her husband created those and she did some work on them also.
To you and your minor complaints I say "BAH"!