Well this is pretty much what I meant with "something people talk a lot of shit about in ignorace".JaymesFogarty said:
What is philosophy to you?
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Over-complicating stuff for the sake of over-complicating them.
thinking and talking, and quite often talking a lot without really saying anything, instead of acting.
over-analizing simple moral questions which were never that hard to understand in the first place.
I guess it comes off a little more negative than intended, but i honestly think philosophy is pretty much just thinking, with added "flashyness-value"
Overrated thinking.
Pretty much exactly what I found, people spouting of some guff they've made up.Jaranja said:
No one picks random fights with geology without knowing the first thing about rocks.
Your ignorance is immense. /sighJaranja said:
OT : Philosophy branches out into many different areas (metaphysics, epistemology etc) which pursue different questions. The pursuit of wisdom and knowledge of the world around us and of ourselves, of existence and of morality (ethics) aswell as so much more. It attempts to answer questions which have troubled many through the ages.
To me philosophy is important because it is the only logical and reasonable method that can be applied to fundamental questions of existence. Of course there is religion. But I have no faith in religion let alone anything else. So i'm going to lean on philosophy, naturally.
My interest for it goes futher than why I think it's important. I'm just so perplexed sometimes by the human race as a whole. The way people can just go about their days, seemingly oblivious to the fact that their is no immediate point to anything on this earth. The vast empty void is on the fringe of my mind, so I cling desperately to the last twig on the ground as it howls behind me. And that twig is philosophy.
I'd argue its impossible to not have encountered philosophy. You know some politics, you know a branch of philosophy, have a moral opinion, well, there's one too. Not knowing you, I'd have no idea if you've hit more of the "pure" stuff but statements like "Philosophy is for people that don't have evidence" is just daft. Every single decent work of philosophy in existence is essentially an exercise in evidence. A Philosophy that doesn't try and support itself through reasoned argument isn't a philosophy at all.Jaranja said:
Philosophy is asking questions about the nature of reality. Religion and science are both offshoots of this, and are, for the most part, accepted (though not necessarily at the same time) by most people. Which is why it confuses me that people think philosophy makes no sense. There were a lot of things that had no answers in the past. People asked the questions, talked about it, and got the answers. And if they were wrong answers, they talked about it some more til they figured out the right ones. That's what philosophy is, a quest for answers. Just because we don't know the answers now doesn't mean that we won't ever know them. Some of them are pretty tough questions, but who knows, maybe in future we'll all know exactly what reality is and what we're here for. And if we do, it's because we asked the questions, reasoned it out, and came to a conclusion. Philosophy is the art of asking questions. That's all.
Oh dear lord.Jaranja said:
It's not a peice of evidence like a sceintists experiment, it is an attempt at evidence. A philosophy isn't something pulled out of some ones arse. Rene Descrates did not write his Meditiations as an idle fancy, he tries to argue, through reason, for his conception of various things. It is much, much more than just his opinion.
The scientific process is in itself a particular philosophy.
No, as any philosopher would tell you, simply stating something does not make it true.Jaranja said:
It is not simply Rene Descartes opinion that "I think therefore I am", its an inescapable
apriori fact.
Like I said, Philosophy is a knoweldge discipline. It deals with knoweldge. It does not sit around making stuff up. There is a massive world of difference between conception and opinion.
Philosophy is the never-ending search for truths. Science is the never-ending search for facts. The two are closely interrelated, but still distinct in many ways.
Maybe that's a bit too simplified, but I think it's close enough.
Maybe that's a bit too simplified, but I think it's close enough.
Agreed on all points, except the emboldened bit. There have been many valid arguments against cogito ergo sum.Mr Wednesday said: