What is so great about Anime?

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Reese's anything is delicious.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[UrbanCohort]

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Inane babble

Obviously I disagree, and I feel as though now you're arguing for arguements sake... but...

I nominate you for best ending point.

Reese's anything is delicious.

Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree then. On the one point, not on the second point.

 

[Texas America Murphy]

Hey guys. Sorry that took so long. My friend Collin came over with a DVD and his SKS because he's an idiot who doesn't know how to clean Cosmoline out of a barrel, and we ended up watching "One Night in Mangkok." I swear to God if Hong Kong cinema were a woman we would all combust just by looking at her.

Anyway, my girlfriend just came back from her friends house with the Deathnote DVD (turns out the disc wasn't in the box. She had loaned it to her friend and drove over to get it back.)

Anyway, the DVD just popped into the player.

It is go time. We are doing this. My girlfriend, myself, and our mutual friend Jack Daniels are sitting down and watching this movie. Updates to follow.

 

[[.redacted]]

Hey guys. Sorry that took so long. My friend Collin came over with a DVD and his SKS because he's an idiot who doesn't know how to clean Cosmoline out of a barrel, and we ended up watching "One Night in Mangkok." I swear to God if Hong Kong cinema were a woman we would all combust just by looking at her.

Anyway, my girlfriend just came back from her friends house with the Deathnote DVD (turns out the disc wasn't in the box. She had loaned it to her friend and drove over to get it back.)

Anyway, the DVD just popped into the player.

It is go time. We are doing this. My girlfriend, myself, and our mutual friend Jack Daniels are sitting down and watching this movie. Updates to follow.

Aha, enjoy yourself, all of you, hope you like it.

But I will not desist untill you either like anime, or have watched Claymore.

...Enjoy, and good night. =)

 

[wartuk65]

It is go time.

I think he's just afraid of answering me, or the other people here who are finally starting to give some actual points instead of fanboy rage. Oh well, I'm off too. To bed that is, I'll check this thread again tomorrow to see how far we've come convincing him. =]

And at Niagro, I won't either, although I'm more of a Clannad type!

 

[Blue Musician]

It was like walking into a Mexican soap opera midway through the plot.

You don't get to watch so many Mexican soap operas do you?
OT: There aren't so many worthwhile animes in my opinion, they are only 1 good worthwhile anime in every 10, just like games. Those animes I cannot say they are reprentive of the whole anime genre.
Otakus really piss me off, but I must admit there are some great animes that you might enjoy, but I cannot guarantee anything. Here goes my list:
Serial Experiments Lain
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni
Hellsing Ultimate
RahXephon
Elfen Lied
Darker than Black (please do not watch the second season).
Death Note

My favorites are the first four by the way, but still don't be too harsh to animes as there are some really good ones. But I guess you can be harsh to otakus, for me thanks to them I tend to despise anime more than I used to. This is probably ones of the most generous anime-related posts that I have done, but whatever...

 

[Marik2]

Saw a little post mentioning Witchblade a few parts up, and thought that this is perfect to highlight something to you, OP:

Anime does one crucially bad and off-putting (for some) thing, and that is it tends to oversexualise and overobjectify women at every opportunity it gets - this is not indicative of the rest of the writing, it is - if you will - in the same vein as the token ethnic minorities in every film [sub]I do not harbour any racist feelings, *sigh*, this is just a metaphor, albeit a bad one[/sub]: it's there because without it, some people will not watch it.

Do not let this deter you, or alter your perspective on anime as a whole, many (if not most) of the best series do not contain this, but some (like Witchblade), do - but it is in no way a sure-fire sign that it will have a bad story.


Argh, that was horribly worded, I should have gone to sleep when I said, but you get my point.

I hope...

Yeah Im the guy who posted witchblade and I was recommended to it back when it first came out in 2006. At first I thought it was gonna be an oversexualized anime with lots of violence, but I finally gave it a chance and...wow its a character driven story and this is basically all the violence in the whole show really. (turn it up to 480p in the video)

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How bout Shigofumi? IT doesnt have that typical garbage like big headed expressions, bouncy boobs, stupid annoying schoolgirls etc.

Each episode deals with things like child abuse, suicide, depression, society, betrayal, revenge; while learning of the origins of the main character. And no its not as depressing as it sounds its actually very thought provoking.

And Elfen Lied does the same except with tons of nudity and gore.


Pick whichever one you like.

 

[Texas America Murphy]

Deathnote Update 1:

I swear to God I am going to take this fucking Korean DVD player outback and shoot it like an enemy combatent.

 

[doodger]

I like some anime... altough i'm not obsessed by it or somethign... some anime are really good... not the crap most people watch tough.

 

[LordOmnit]

It is as many people said before and in all the other threads with self-proclaimed artistic judicators that said some combination of they dislike anime, don't get it, think it is stupid, etc. that it is a matter of personal preference. If the sum of your encounters with anime is a few random episodes of Naruto, Code Geass, and Guren Lagan then I have to say that you have no real stake or place in so much as speaking about it. Sure, first impressions and all, but really you have as much place talking about it as I do talking about the history of Swaziland. Another issue is as others have said; anime titles tend to be highly un-episodic. Not always, but a lot of the time one episode changes things greatly, so starting in the middle means nothing to anyone unless you already understand how that world works- bringing us to another pair of points. Just like anything else there are genres under anime (the usual: sci-fi, fantasy, slice-of-life, comedy, modern, period pieces, etc.) and if you don't understand the rules of that particular world which are introduced at the beginning and build into throughout, then you won't understand why anything works the way it does (except in the case of Naruto where him wearing orange is never explained and makes no sense at all since he rarely did anything to hide other than use trees or buildings or corners or something). The other point is that anime comes from Japan which has all kinds of different rule sets, values, customs, and (most importantly) history from the rest of the world.
So considering that you are judging it from: outside the originating nation's history, in the middle of a story, and standard fare rather than a more creamy crop it's natural that you would come to that conclusion.
That is assuming that you aren't intimately aware of Japanese history and culture (and by that I mean a lot of critical study, not just one or two courses).
Finally, good luck with the Death Note business and I hope you are starting from the beginning this time. If that doesn't work and you have at least a little tiny glimmer of possibility in the deepest recesses of your heart, then try Mushishi. I've yet to watch it myself, but I've determined the slightly sparse extremely positive reviews and no negative reviews to mean that people have collectively stepped away from it to not over-hype it and not let anything bad be said about it.

 

[Texas America Murphy]

Deathnote Update 2:

YOU SON OF A ***** DVD PLAYER. YOU PLAY DVDS FOR ME FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN BETRAY ME LIKE THIS! I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL BREAK INTO BEST BUY AND KILL YOUR ENTIRE DVD PLAYER FAMILY.

 

[LordOmnit]

Looking like not so much good luck on that Death Note thing 'cept for different reasons. Got any other DVD players?

 

[emeraldrafael]

I dont know. I guess cause (to me at least) its a step up from cartoons and to serious shows that are still animated. Granted, not all Anime is good, but ones like Cowboy Bebop, Speed Grapher, um... hm... oh, Read Or Die are all great ways to tell a story and still have that adult feel while being able to do a lot with them.

 

[UrbanCohort]

-wrote in my Notebook-

Texas America Murphy's...DVD...player.

will suffer a magnificent, rage-inducing failure after two years of use.

 

[Lollerman]

I'm not sure if OP is mad that the DVD player is playing back something horrible, or that it's refusing to play at all.

Edit: Hahaha Urban, genius.

 

[moretimethansense]

1. You're a film student?
Well whoop-de-fricken-do that does not give you authoroty to decide what is or is not a good medium.

Sir, I completely agree with your statement but since he is a film student wouldn't it make since for him to be able to tell weither or not a type of film is structurely good?

Not if he believes that he can judge (for example) a 600+ anime from a handful of episodes, let alone an entire medium.
To put the above in to perspective it's as though he watched twelve seconds of Gran Torino (bad example I know but just roll with it) and decided that all films everywhere were just old men sitting on their prcch drinking beer and talking to their dogs, or eight seconds of Trasformors and claiming all films were just robots pissing on people.

Also you can argue what makes a film structurally good till you're blue in the face but that won't change the fact that art, any art is subjective, people like different writing tropes, some people have no sense of humor, others hate sad endings, others still love the concept of a regenerating preist with blessed swords dueling an imortal vampire that duel weilds massive hand guns while wearing a giant red fedora, structure can't account for taste.

 

[Arehexes]

Isn't him doing these anime updates spamming at this point? I mean he is already watching anime from the advice of some of the posters here, now he is just saying what he thinks. He can watch it without typing then just say what he thinks in one post when he is done.

 

[Gigaguy64]

And Elfen Lied does the same except with tons of nudity and gore.


Pick whichever one you like.

Are you trying to turn him off anime forever dude?


In all seriousness i don't think Elfen Lied would help him any.

Something like Ghost in the Shell or Monster would be better choices.
But this is all my Opinion, nothing more.
Even though Monster was epic.

 

[teisjm]

To me, anime has limitless potential. It can be themed and targeted for any audience for the most part and since it's animated, the only real limit seems to be ones imagination.

I like this alternate universe you live in where animation isn't expensive and budgets are never a problem.

Animators are not really that high paid, so in some cases it might be cheaper than live action films.

A lot of anime has the budget advantage of using fewer unique frames pr second than a lot of other films, so they can reduce the amount of pictures they have to make to about a third.

Add to that that animation can and is partly beeing outsourced to countries with lower wages, and studios often use low or unpaid interns for in-between drawings.
I'd think it's hard to outsource the actors and everyone else on the set of live action films.

 

[SaviorAtimus]

May I say something. Anime is one of the few forms of medium that i am actually ashamed that i love. Anyone who doesn't watch anime only see it as school girls and monsters. Whats wrong with that. That is why i love it. It usually have absurd stories and larger than life situations. It usually doesn't make sense for the most part. The visuals are bright and flashy and the story and characters are retarded. I love it. It gives out a sense of absurdity that the west would not even brush up on. I think the west kind of takes itself too seriously with its medium. Maybe sometimes I want a story about a high school boy who is getting lusted by 18 other girls. Or a girl that fights crime with a magic panda. Anime reaches out to the "retarded idea spectrum" of our thoughts. The most perverted, fantastical, and weird ideas come from anime. Still though, it is not to say that it is just that. I has many anime with great story (in my opinion) and lessons such as Mysterious Girlfriend X (innocence) Great Teacher Onidzuka (Boldness) and many more. Like any other medium, it has its crap, its good, and its weird. Don't judge anime in general by 2 shows, and don't judge it by its fans. If you really are interested, look it up. If you enjoy it (no matter how stupid) it shouldn't come as such of a confusion