What is so wrong with new Dante?

[Hectix777]

This has been bugging for awhile and it's just time to set the record straight right now, once and for all:

The protagonist of Ninja Theory's DmC is still Dante, DmC is both a prequel and an origin story. I repeat:new Dante is still Dante, just younger

I'm sorry if all of you are groaning right now or are going,"how dare you!", but it's really petty. I'm not saying that I'm okay if something like this were to happen to one of my gaming icons, say turning Megaman into a special agent over a reploid, I'd be pissed off. The one thing I would look for is why, why Megaman is no longer a robot boy/evolved Astroboy and is now a generic special agent? You're all asking, why does Dante have black hair? He looked great before! This is understandable, I can respect your curiosity and your dedication to retaining a mascots general look, but that's no reason to hate it before DmC gives you a chance to impress you.

I know everyone's mad, but Capcom gave the reason behind Dante's new look, it's an origin game, before he embraces his demonic nature. Let me ask you this: dis you always imagine your gaming icons to have always looked the way they do through out their entire life, birth to present? No, at some point Master Cheif was just a regular kid, Kratos was just a Spartan boy, John Lennon was a baby with no knowledge of music, and Bruce Wayne only became Batman when his parents died. The key thing here is that this game debuts Dante, it explains the white hair and we witness his reaction to the fact that he is a half demon. Obsessing over a minor aesthetic isn't going to cripple the game just your personal experience to it. I'm not saying your grieving right now I'm just saying it's not a big deal, it's a moderately sized deal, but one with a reason for it. Dante will get the white hair at some point int the game, just not now. Think of this game as Dante going through demonic puberty, okay? I don't want to light fires, I just want to quell this one. Dante fans, you still have Dante, your getting the same over the top action the franchise is known for. It's just a minor change, with an explanation. If you feel the need for me to clarify or counter me, feel free to quote.

 

[humpty334]

There is nothing wrong with the new Dante it just gives him depth and makes it more interesting

 

[Valagetti]

Hope hes only wearing one belt this time around. That the only thing that helped me identify Dante from Nero. Na, DMC4 was a whole lotta fun, just stop making so many cutscenes guys! And no QTE's are not an improvement.

 

[scnj]

I think you'll find that the problem is that the new Dante isn't exactly like the old one, and as much as people call for change and new things, they throw a fit when it actually happens.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I never really had a problem with the new Dante.

I had a problem with the new developer.

Ninja Theory brought us the crap-tastic battle systems of Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

 

[WanderingFool]

I was put off by his new appearance when they first showed it. Since than, ive grown less concerned with it.

But to anser why people dislike it. Its different. Compared to what Dante looks like now, to his old look, people dont like the idea of such a radicle change. Also, some characters are better not having a non-fimilur appearance (ala, young look).

 

[teh_Canape]

the new Dante isn't exactly like the old one

that's, like, the point of a prequel, right? XD

but you're right, people tend to be like

*game released*
"this is so cool"
*sequel released*
"okay guys, it was fun and all, but how about you change it a little?"
*sequel released experimenting new mechanics and stuff*
"JESUS CHRIST NOT THAT DIFFERENT, YOU RUINED IT"

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

There's a pic somewhere that shows that there are few facial differences between the "old" Dante and the "new" Dante so the only thing that's different is the hairstyle.

 

[lordlillen]

wait no you have this all wrong this isnt a prequel they already made a prequel its called devil may cry 3 its the first in the timeline this new game is simply a re-boot. the problem with new main guy (shut up he's not dante) is that he's not what we expect from DMC, what most of us know is the cool cockey old dante that kicked so much demon ass that he could do it in his sleep while this new dante is nothing like the old one he looks like a emo guy trying to be dante but failing on so many ways its not funny. alot of people say that dante lost his iconick look with nero and vergil in the series but all it really needed was remove those charackters and then they would be golden.

 

[Phlakes]

He looks like a twat. There's really no reason for it, too, just to make him look younger, which can easily be done with a less twat-like hairstyle.

 

[Duncan Trice]

He looks more likely to cut himself than some demons. I just hope they don't turn him into a whiner and that he still has his snarky sense of humor. By the way if you have not seen some E3 gameplay of the game his hair turns white and reverts somewhat back to normal, I am guessing it is some sort of devil trigger thing (yes i know he does not have it as this is before DMC3).

 

[Rooster893]

I never really had a problem with the new Dante.

I had a problem with the new developer.

Ninja Theory brought us the crap-tastic battle systems of Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

Don't forget Metroid: Other M.

Ick.

 

[Smertnik]

the problem with new main guy (shut up he's not dante) is that he's not what we expect from DMC, what most of us know is the cool cockey old dante that kicked so much demon ass that he could do it in his sleep while this new dante is nothing like the old one he looks like a emo guy trying to be dante but failing on so many ways its not funny.

Pretty much this. I just don't like this character. At all. I loved the Dante in DMC3, because of both his looks and his attitude. This Dante doesn't have any of the traits that made him likable to me. Now he's just some generic depressed dude with a sword.

alot of people say that dante lost his iconick look with nero and vergil in the series but all it really needed was remove those charackters and then they would be golden.

I didn't think Vergil was that similar to Dante (and they were brothers, after all) but yeah, Nero was a total overkill.

 

[cgentero]

First off its not a prequel, its a reboot and origin story, in the same way Casino Royale and Batman Begins are both reboot and origin story, as in not in the same canon, both NT and Capcom refer to it as a reboot and origin story not a prequel.

* Replacing Dante's personality, appearance, story, etc. all the the things that make Dante who he is, to make him a generic revenge driven scowlface Kratos clone. The switch of focus from brutality instead of stylishness, grimdark instead of over the top, street punk instead of gothic horror, etc.

* So far nothing actually "new" has been shown or talked about, the things that made Devil May Cry gameplay unique have copied numerous times and some would say surpassed in recent years, people complained that DMC4 played too much like DMC3, yet DmC's big innovation is that its DMC4 but gritty and 30fps(UE3). If you look at the gameplay trailer a lot of the moves actually use animations from DMC4(Nero mostly).

It seems the only reason they are rebooting is because its a fashionable thing to do a "gritty for the sake of looking gritty" reboot nowadays.

EDIT
Here is a good explanation
http://captainstarball.com/opinion/devil-may-cry-fan-explains-backlash

 

[TheGreatKlaid]

Twofold, it's that you can't change iconic characters a whole lot it looks weird. Sonic = OK, Dante = WRONG! Secondly, to the original post it could explain on the other hand it might not.

 

[scnj]

wait no you have this all wrong this isnt a prequel they already made a prequel its called devil may cry 3 its the first in the timeline this new game is simply a re-boot.

Yes it is, which means there are bound to be differences. Next, I'll break down your uber long sentence:

the problem with new main guy (shut up he's not dante)

Yes he is, whether you like it or not.

is that he's not what we expect from DMC,

No, it's a developer taking a risk and trying something new with a stale franchise.

what most of us know

Please don't speak for people other than yourself when stating your opinions.

is the cool cockey old dante that kicked so much demon ass that he could do it in his sleep

The key words here are 'old Dante'. As you've already stated, this is a reboot.

while this new dante is nothing like the old one he looks like a emo guy trying to be dante but failing on so many ways its not funny.

I'd argue he's very much like the old Dante. He uses guns and a sword, he wears a red jacket, he has a devil trigger that gives him silver hair and he has a bad attitude. These are all aspects of Dante's character.

alot of people say that dante lost his iconick look with nero and vergil in the series but all it really needed was remove those charackters and then they would be golden.

You're suggesting removing Virgil, who's been in the series from the first game? I agree that Nero was a mistake, but then I'd argue that making Devil May Cry 4 was a mistake in the first place. DMC3 was excellent, by 4 the franchise was tired and in need of a fresh direction. There are many worse developers than Ninja Theory, and I expect the story and characters to be exciting, if nothing else.

Why not give the actual game a shot before completely writing it off?

 

[crono738]

I never really had a problem with the new Dante.

I had a problem with the new developer.

Ninja Theory brought us the crap-tastic battle systems of Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

Don't forget Metroid: Other M.

Ick.

That was Team Ninja...you know, the Dead or Alive & Ninja Gaiden folks.

 

[Rooster893]

I never really had a problem with the new Dante.

I had a problem with the new developer.

Ninja Theory brought us the crap-tastic battle systems of Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.

Don't forget Metroid: Other M.

Ick.

That was Team Ninja...you know, the Dead or Alive & Ninja Gaiden folks.

Well.... *facepalm*

Maybe I should do the research first, eh? Sorry bout that.

 

[cainx10a]

The Japanese developers have a way different method of writing characters. Sure, they might be based off western cliches, but the little tidbits they add fleshed out Dante on his own, as much as Bayonetta or Sam -Fucking- Gideon, they are over-the-top awesome. Sure, they are definitely not the people who you would expect to have sitting next to you in a bar, and that's what I loved about them.

To have Dante, as a young misunderstood junkie who fight off demons in a different realm, a situation that get him in a lot of trouble no doubt, is silly in the old world of DMC. So, I guess they are trying to aim for a more realistic approach to the medium. Reimagining Dante as a 'troubled' tween who thinks he is hunting demons, I supposed that not a bad idea, given that he will eventually turn into the witty and laid back demon hunter the old dante is, but then the game better have an awesome story to go along with the fighting system which is definitely what will make or break that style of game.

 

[nothingspringstomind]

Infamous 2 had the same problem and the developer caved and changed the main character from interesting looking to baldy gravel-voice bloke again.
As if we don't have enough of those already.