What is TF2 like?

Recommended Videos

archvile93

New member
Sep 2, 2009
2,564
0
0
RaziTheRed said:
archvile93 said:
It's a good way to raise your blood pressure to dangerous heights. Also, everyone will most likely have better weapons than you, and the only way for you to get those weapons is to kill those better equipped players enough times to get the achievements or pay Valve. So good luck with that, you're going to need it. By the way, the soldieer is not the basic class, since rather than having a general all purpose assault rifle type weapon, he has probably the most situational weapon in any game, a rocket launcher coupled with another situational weapon, the shotgun. Come to think of it, almost all the classes has a very situational weapon, it's pretty much just a glorified rock paper scissors. Every class is tailor made to destroy another specific class and nothing else.
You must not understand how the classes work then. ANY class can kill ANY class depending on how you use it. A great Sniper can even beat a good Soldier in close quarters.

And "better weapons"? Each weapon has ups and downs to it, no weapon is inherently better than another: something I can vouch for as an almost completely vanilla player.

TF2's classes are meant to encourage teamwork with their various skills, abilities, and such, but at the same time a great player doesn't suffer for choosing to stick to a certain class.
Well yeah, skill and luck will always come in to play no matter what who you're playing as is designed to do. So yes if a master sniper takes on a completely retarded soldier in close combat the sniper will win since he's not a moron. Also the soldier is at a disadvantage in close combat as well. You can't use a rocket launcher at that range, you'll kill yourself.
 

archvile93

New member
Sep 2, 2009
2,564
0
0
Ultratwinkie said:
archvile93 said:
It's a good way to raise your blood pressure to dangerous heights. Also, everyone will most likely have better weapons than you, and the only way for you to get those weapons is to kill those better equipped players enough times to get the achievements or pay Valve. So good luck with that, you're going to need it. By the way, the soldieer is not the basic class, since rather than having a general all purpose assault rifle type weapon, he has probably the most situational weapon in any game, a rocket launcher coupled with another situational weapon, the shotgun. Come to think of it, almost all the classes has a very situational weapon, it's pretty much just a glorified rock paper scissors. Every class is tailor made to destroy another specific class and nothing else.
assault weapon? what did you say?! rifles are for sissies. rocket launchers are for men.



the game is balanced so you will always have someone who trumps your class, this is to balance out the classes so there is no 1887 akimbos or cheap gameplay tactics like in MW2. every weapon has a DOWN SIDE AND A POSITIVE SIDE so it BALANCES OUT. all weapons are situational and you can trump anyone with any weapon. you are just making things up.

Well yeah, it's just that all down sides are specifically designed to be exploited by specific classes, not by certain player. Also, I'm sick of games that start you with shit and the only way to get good stuff is to unlock it by killing players that already have more experience than you, now they have better equipment too.
 

Flying-Emu

New member
Oct 30, 2008
5,367
0
0
archvile93 said:
Flying-Emu said:
archvile93 said:
It's a good way to raise your blood pressure to dangerous heights. Also, everyone will most likely have better weapons than you, and the only way for you to get those weapons is to kill those better equipped players enough times to get the achievements or pay Valve. So good luck with that, you're going to need it. By the way, the soldieer is not the basic class, since rather than having a general all purpose assault rifle type weapon, he has probably the most situational weapon in any game, a rocket launcher coupled with another situational weapon, the shotgun. Come to think of it, almost all the classes has a very situational weapon, it's pretty much just a glorified rock paper scissors. Every class is tailor made to destroy another specific class and nothing else.
So you played TF2 for what, six minutes?

Any class can beat any class. A scout can beat a soldier, a heavy can beat a sniper, and a medic can beat a pyro. It all depends 100% on the skill of the players involved.
Change minutes to hour andd your absolutely right, and I know, xfire says so.
Then you must have sat sucking your thumb for most of that time, as evidenced by half of your comments in this thread.
archvile93 said:
Also the soldier is at a disadvantage in close combat as well. You can't use a rocket launcher at that range, you'll kill yourself.
You will lose, at most, 50 hp. Sure, that's fully 1/4th of your HP, but when you can deal THREE TIMES THAT to the enemy at point-blank range... it's a pretty fair deal.

You obviously have no grasp of the basic concepts of the game, otherwise you wouldn't be spewing such drivel.
 
Jun 11, 2008
5,331
0
0
Flying-Emu said:
archvile93 said:
It's a good way to raise your blood pressure to dangerous heights. Also, everyone will most likely have better weapons than you, and the only way for you to get those weapons is to kill those better equipped players enough times to get the achievements or pay Valve. So good luck with that, you're going to need it. By the way, the soldieer is not the basic class, since rather than having a general all purpose assault rifle type weapon, he has probably the most situational weapon in any game, a rocket launcher coupled with another situational weapon, the shotgun. Come to think of it, almost all the classes has a very situational weapon, it's pretty much just a glorified rock paper scissors. Every class is tailor made to destroy another specific class and nothing else.
So you played TF2 for what, six minutes?

Any class can beat any class. A scout can beat a soldier, a heavy can beat a sniper, and a medic can beat a pyro. It all depends 100% on the skill of the players involved.
You forgot to add about his weapon comment that the standard set of weapons are the most and most verstitle and very few added weapons have replaced olds one in general and competitive play.

OT: If you like cartoony style graphics, comedy and fps games and are willing to put up with a bit of a steep learning curve given that a lot of people have at least 500+ hours on it. If you like or can deal with that you will like the game.

Corpse XxX said:
Servers:
Fast respawn
Official maps

Good maps and you dont have to wait so long to play again when you die.

Gamemodes:

KOTH- both teams try to capture a single point and hold it for 2 minutes.
CP- like KOTH, but several points instead of one, and one team only defend whilst other capture.
PL- payload map, there is a cart you have to push from A to B while enemy team try to stop you.
CTF- capture the flag, each team has a intel that enemy team must steal
Arena- no respawn, team deathmatch

I do not recommend arena in the beginning, seeing as it is the servers that seem to attract the higher skilled players. Beeing a newbie you will spend a lot of time waiting for end round.


Fun community made modes:

Dodgeball- you play as pyro, playing dodgeball with a missile..
Prophunt- one team hide as different props, other team try to find them.
Randomizer- game chooses class and weapons for you, so you can end up as beeing a scout with soldier weapons for instance..
You forgot territory control although the only map that plays it is Hydro.
 

TheYellowCellPhone

New member
Sep 26, 2009
8,617
0
0
yundex said:
TheYellowCellPhone said:
Basic TF2 Knowledge:

It's a large scale FPS
Multiplayer only, but there's one (short) singleplayer mode
Comes by itself for around $20 on Steam, or around $30 on the Orange Box (which includes four other games. Yeah.)

There are several different game modes: Area Control, Capture the Flag, Payload, and tons of community-made modes.
There are around thirty different maps, not counting community maps.
Nine (very balanced) classes: Scout, Soldier, Pyro, Engineer, Heavy, Demoman, Medic, Sniper, and Spy.
It uses health-kit health, not recharghible health.
Around 50+ added weapons, and hats.
Despite above fact, the game is very well balanced.
EVERYTHING I mentioned is free (well, on the PC at least).

Best tip: Play as a Medic: Self healing, not much combat needed, basically just follow experienced players and learn the ropes. But please, heal the guys with the big guns.
Are there any mods/addons I should use with the game? I guess I will start as a medic.
I just looked on MODDB (if you don't know, it's where you get mods for your various games) and I have to say, no, not much - still some, but most people are satisfied with Team Fortress 2 now. But, for your Team Fortress 2 content, I highly suggest going to http://www.fpsbanana.com/, where you'll find lots of maps, skins, gamemodes, etc.
 

DustyDrB

Made of ticky tacky
Jan 19, 2010
8,365
3
43
I spend ridiculous amounts of time on 2fort, mostly as a demoman, stealing and defending intel.

I pretty much play Capture the Flag exclusively. I'll dabble in capture points, and don't play Payload at all.

You're going to meet a lot of people who are obsessed with hats. I never got the fever, myself. And people who like to complain about weapons (Natscha, Backburner, and Force of Nature are popular targets. The Shortstop is quickly ascending the most whined about list though). Ignore them.
 

archvile93

New member
Sep 2, 2009
2,564
0
0
Flying-Emu said:
archvile93 said:
Flying-Emu said:
archvile93 said:
It's a good way to raise your blood pressure to dangerous heights. Also, everyone will most likely have better weapons than you, and the only way for you to get those weapons is to kill those better equipped players enough times to get the achievements or pay Valve. So good luck with that, you're going to need it. By the way, the soldieer is not the basic class, since rather than having a general all purpose assault rifle type weapon, he has probably the most situational weapon in any game, a rocket launcher coupled with another situational weapon, the shotgun. Come to think of it, almost all the classes has a very situational weapon, it's pretty much just a glorified rock paper scissors. Every class is tailor made to destroy another specific class and nothing else.
So you played TF2 for what, six minutes?

Any class can beat any class. A scout can beat a soldier, a heavy can beat a sniper, and a medic can beat a pyro. It all depends 100% on the skill of the players involved.
Change minutes to hour andd your absolutely right, and I know, xfire says so.
Then you must have sat sucking your thumb for most of that time, as evidenced by half of your comments in this thread.
archvile93 said:
Also the soldier is at a disadvantage in close combat as well. You can't use a rocket launcher at that range, you'll kill yourself.
You will lose, at most, 50 hp. Sure, that's fully 1/4th of your HP, but when you can deal THREE TIMES THAT to the enemy at point-blank range... it's a pretty fair deal.

You obviously have no grasp of the basic concepts of the game, otherwise you wouldn't be spewing such drivel.
Your personal attacks don't help your case.
 

archvile93

New member
Sep 2, 2009
2,564
0
0
Ultratwinkie said:
archvile93 said:
Ultratwinkie said:
archvile93 said:
It's a good way to raise your blood pressure to dangerous heights. Also, everyone will most likely have better weapons than you, and the only way for you to get those weapons is to kill those better equipped players enough times to get the achievements or pay Valve. So good luck with that, you're going to need it. By the way, the soldieer is not the basic class, since rather than having a general all purpose assault rifle type weapon, he has probably the most situational weapon in any game, a rocket launcher coupled with another situational weapon, the shotgun. Come to think of it, almost all the classes has a very situational weapon, it's pretty much just a glorified rock paper scissors. Every class is tailor made to destroy another specific class and nothing else.
assault weapon? what did you say?! rifles are for sissies. rocket launchers are for men.



the game is balanced so you will always have someone who trumps your class, this is to balance out the classes so there is no 1887 akimbos or cheap gameplay tactics like in MW2. every weapon has a DOWN SIDE AND A POSITIVE SIDE so it BALANCES OUT. all weapons are situational and you can trump anyone with any weapon. you are just making things up.

Well yeah, it's just that all down sides are specifically designed to be exploited by specific classes, not by certain player. Also, I'm sick of games that start you with shit and the only way to get good stuff is to unlock it by killing players that already have more experience than you, now they have better equipment too.
what? i can kill a damn huntsman sniper with the stock sniper rifle in close combat and have been for YEARS. the grenade launcher on the demoman alone can kill anything. the weapons ONLY OFFER DIFFERENT PLAY STYLES, THEY ARE NOT "BETTER" IN ANY SENSE OF THE WORD. FOR EXAMPLE, THE HEAVY'S SASHA MINIGUN = OFFENSIVE AND NASTASCHA MINIGUN= DEFENSIVE. you don't "unlock" shit, you get DROPS of it. you play the game and get random weapons in intervals. want better equipment without trying? join a damn idle/achievement server if you cant be arsed to play. the game is balanced, and its not TF2's fault if its not like MW2 or COD. you are just making up shit.

HERE are some more guns with playstyles:

Syndey sleeper = body shot gun
huntsman = close combat sniper
scottish resistance = defensive sticky bombs
jarate = support sniper
gunslinger = offensive engineer
blutsauger = front line battle medic
Those sound like great guns, much better than the shit and airsoft guns I started with. Too bad I have to unlock them. And don't assume I liked MW2 because it was shit. If you want a team based game I liked, try Quake Wars.
 

ottenni

New member
Aug 13, 2009
2,996
0
0
A truly fantastic hat simulator.

Also there are a few guns and such, but thats not the point. Hats are the point, lots and lots of hats!
 

Delusibeta

Reachin' out...
Mar 7, 2010
2,594
0
0
Tip: if you can't aim, be a Medic. Point at person, hold left mouse button, he gains health until you release the button (or stray too far from him). Surprisingly trilling when you're in the face of the enemy team.
 

DustyDrB

Made of ticky tacky
Jan 19, 2010
8,365
3
43
Delusibeta said:
Tip: if you can't aim, be a Medic. Point at person, hold left mouse button, he gains health until you release the button (or stray too far from him). Surprisingly trilling when you're in the face of the enemy team.
Yeah, I can't hit moving targets that well. But more than medic is useful. I main as a Demoman, and am also good with the Pyro and non-direct hit Soldier.
 
Feb 13, 2008
19,430
0
0
yundex said:
I'm bored of wow and have done some reading. I hear that you get drops and stuff, that sounds pretty cool. Is there a place I can go or a guide I should read to get the basics down before playing? Is there a newbie mode or something? I don't want to be "that guy". Also, what do you DO in the game?
Join [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/The-Escapist-Team-Fortress-2-Group-PC]

Watch

Play :)

Although it's not all work, work, work:

And sometimes it's downright silly
 

Tharwen

Ep. VI: Return of the turret
May 7, 2009
9,145
0
41
The first part of the name is the most important.

It's a team game, and the more you play it like that, the better you'll do. That means you should stick with the team and help them push important points (except in specific cases), and you should use a class's team-oriented abilities as much as possible.

That probably doesn't give you any clues on how to actually play, but it's still a useful fact to remember.
 

PortalParadox

New member
Jan 6, 2010
88
0
0
My advice:

Find 4-5 servers that usually have an average of about 16-20 people on, minor custom settings (low gravity, community-made map, instant respawn, etc.) that you find to improve the game, small map rotation and reliable connection. Then stick too them. For me, the game is 20x more fun when I am familiar with the environment.

Also, If there is one map in particular that you like the most, you can find servers that play that map exclusively (24/7 tag)
 

TheYellowCellPhone

New member
Sep 26, 2009
8,617
0
0
TimeLord said:
TheYellowCellPhone said:
Multiplayer only, but there's one (short) singleplayer mode.
Seriously? Where is that?
It's called "training", and I think it can be found on the start up page. It's really simple: you start on some fixed area as a Soldier, it gives you the basics, then it sets you loose in a game filled with you and a bunch of bots.

I think it lasts until you leave, and they possibly go to different maps. I haven't had the patience to figure it out.