what is the best assault rifle?

[firedfns13]

A Gau-8 Avenger Cannon.
That's the best assault rifle there.
And my idea of a fair fight is the fact that I live while the enemy and anything near them is atomized by the hailstorm of depleted uranium bullets.

Otherwise, I'd pick the Ak47 if I was going on an extended engagement with little or no support since it is the most reliable, but for accuracy and support, I'd either go with the M4 sopmod, G36k, a Scar-H, or the sexiest gun yet: the XM8, which is cancelled.

 

[Bob the Average]

the best weapon is the one you have on hand when you need it.

 

[Xcelsior]

This will all boil down to a matter of opinion, IMO I'd go for the G36C.

 

[Rigs83]

There are no good assault rifles. They're all built to hurt or kill people, and that is not my definition of "good".

Living people pave over fields to build shopping malls, cut down rain-forest to plant palm plants and poison the air water and land so anything that turns living people who harm the environment into dead people whose flesh feed small creatures like crows rats and worms ( and tend to reside in large and efficient mass graves) is just a wee bit good.

 

[Antlers]

really? i wish i could get a Brittish military opinion on this. i'm in the USAF and almost ALL of the guys i work with have a Xbox360 or PS3. based on that i thought Brittish forces would be gamers themselves. could be wrong tho.
as for the majority in both countries i know that most are not in the military and almost no one is in the IRA. but with Brittain as a military superpower i thought the civilians would have at least an idea about what the thread was asking. as for bringing up the RAF in Brittain and the IRA in Ireland i was trying to convey that there are weapons in these countries and SOME people know one from another and have preferences of one over others. if you dont know anything about weapons or dont have an opinion on them why post? bringing up the fact that i am american and that this thread is completely foriegn to everyone outside the US is just wrong.

Calm down! I didn't mean any sort of offence by it!

I was more implying that the Escapist demographic are unlikely to be in the army, not that people in army don't have xboxes. But I could be wrong. I can't speak for the British really, but I doubt civilians would have much of an idea. I, as a civilian, have no idea. You seem to be taking this awfully personally and I'm regretting saying anything... I was only pointing out the rather interesting culture difference.

 

[Sevanum10]

FAMAS, of the french military. Even though they don't ever use the goddamn things. (Ba dum psh) But the bullpup design does give it the accuracy for an longer range combat role, while keeping it compact enough for closer combat. Its ugly as shit, but its comfortable, easy to reload, and very durable.

 

[Rigs83]

You may find it a bit interesting (well ok, maybe not) to know that this thread was completely lost on me. I presume it's because I'm not American. I don't even know if you're talking about real rifles. Are any other British/Irish/non-Americans completely lost?

Americans, we're like Nazis we kill the weak too.

 

[HK_01]

Who cares about assault rifles? I want a musket!

Seriously though? An AK 107/8 probably, or a G36.

 

[DogofRaw]

I would have to say either the AK-47, plus some way to reduce the recoil and increase stability. Either that or the XM8, due to its lightweight and versatility.

Xm-8 failed due to its heavyer weight than the m16

And the fact that it melted when fired for prolonged periods.

 

[Jenkins]

the British L85 rifle?

also the AUG, and possibly the new rifle being tested to replace the M-16, I cannot remember the name of the rifle or the company making it, but its supposed to have the reliability of the AK-47, with the firepower of the M-16. and it can shoot full auto as well as burst and single.

 

[open trap]

my friend it all depends on the situation, but id have to say the ak because its simplisity, reliability, and power

 

[Fenring]

I'd go for the SA80, but out of the two you've given, I like accuracy and range so M16.

 

[redeye596]

http://www.robarm.com/ is my personal choice, high reliabilty, easy clean up, very accurate, light recoil even in the bigger 7.62, awesome look, easy barrel swap allowing the use of scavged ammo in the Field, and can be used left or right handed.

 

[open trap]

Clearly not many people know much about guns here. As with say, a longboard, there is no such thing as the "best" assault rifle. Picking an assault rifle is entirely dependent on the current situation and personal taste. Me and my friend have discussions about this fairly often, he prefers the M4, and similar weapons, which allow for lighter rounds, hence the ability to carry more with you, as well as general advantages of a 5.56mm round. I on the other hand prefer battle rifle style weapons such as the M14. I don't feel confident shooting at the enemy with a glorified .22. In my opinion, the best era of war was WWII, where they cared less about the little features of weapons, which really don't matter, and more on knocking for the enemy with one shot. I also appreciate the ability to reach out further than most 5.56mm weapons can and still inflict some damage.

With that said, as mentioned above, I really don't like assault rifles, since they compromise range and power for rate of fire and ammo capacity. So I'd say an M14 with a EBR stock. I really wish everyone would shut up about the Tar/Tavor, since it is pretty much the Halo of assault rifles, it has brought nothing new to the table, but everyone still seems to love it for some unknown reason. Bullpups are supremely overrated. The SA80 blew so bad, that the brits needed HK to fix the entire design so it didn't jam more than a 'nam M16. If I have to choose and assault rifle, however, it's going to be some variation of a G36 in 6.5mm Grendel.

i think u meen smgs sacrifice rang and accurcy for rate of fire.AR's ar ment to be the inbetween with medium ROF and accurcy to be more appropriat for more situations

 

[US Crash Fire]

really? i wish i could get a Brittish military opinion on this. i'm in the USAF and almost ALL of the guys i work with have a Xbox360 or PS3. based on that i thought Brittish forces would be gamers themselves. could be wrong tho.
as for the majority in both countries i know that most are not in the military and almost no one is in the IRA. but with Brittain as a military superpower i thought the civilians would have at least an idea about what the thread was asking. as for bringing up the RAF in Brittain and the IRA in Ireland i was trying to convey that there are weapons in these countries and SOME people know one from another and have preferences of one over others. if you dont know anything about weapons or dont have an opinion on them why post? bringing up the fact that i am american and that this thread is completely foriegn to everyone outside the US is just wrong.

Calm down! I didn't mean any sort of offence by it!

I was more implying that the Escapist demographic are unlikely to be in the army, not that people in army don't have xboxes. But I could be wrong. I can't speak for the British really, but I doubt civilians would have much of an idea. I, as a civilian, have no idea. You seem to be taking this awfully personally and I'm regretting saying anything... I was only pointing out the rather interesting culture difference.

i can go with you on that our cultures are different. (even though were closer to you guys than anyone else). the only part of Brittain that i have seen is the RAF forces while i was deployed. and i dont remember much of Ireland because we had a 3 hour layover at Shannon intl. where i discovered guinness, jameson, and scrumpy jack hard cider.
with your first post i thought you were implying that only americans use guns.
maybe it would have helped if i said that I was military and not civilian thats why i have this knowledge of military firearms.
so yeah no hard feelings man.
i wasnt mad or trying to start shit
as far as americans go im pretty chill.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

A Gau-8 Avenger Cannon.
That's the best assault rifle there.
And my idea of a fair fight is the fact that I live while the enemy and anything near them is atomized by the hailstorm of depleted uranium bullets.

Somebody has the right idea of how to do these things.


Me, I'll take the Schwere Gustav 800mm siege cannon. Because I don't want to kill everybody in the room, I want the room, the people in it and indeed the entire apartment block to come crashing down like it was just struck by the hand of god.


On assault rifles, I'll take the AK47, or an R5. The '47 was a decent shot up to about 400 yards in semiauto, but at full auto the combination of muzzle jump and recoil drops it's efficency to about 100 yards tops. The M16/4 series weapons, however, are much easier to handle firing automatic bursts at much longer ranges - 200-300 yards with a three or four round burst, and I could still actually hit the blasted target. Not very well, but I'd never fired a firearm before then, so hell.

 

[H0ncho]

How many of the AK fanboys here has ever fired one...? How many here has fired any assault rifle whatsoever? With all the experts here one could believe that the escapist community is the most battle-hardened group in the world.

Personally I have only ever fired one assault rifle, the G3. It's accurate and mine has never ever jammed under any conditions. It also uses the large 7.62 calibre, although that's not necessarily an advantage.

 

[Apocalypse Tank]

Bullpups are the way to go.

 

[US Crash Fire]

Americans, we're like Nazis we kill the weak too.

you shouldnt post anymore.
its shit like thats that people need to remember when they wonder why our country has such a bad reputation!
even if your joking all it takes is for this to be seen by someone who thinks your serious.

 

[Spitfire175]

H&K 417

It's an M4, but made by zee Germans and chambered for a 7.62x51mm round.

And made it superbly reliable. I'd prefer the 5.56x45 of that, the 416 carbine.

Altogether, nowdays the M 16 reliability problems are hyped way too much: if you take care of your rifle, it will take care of you. Also it has been upgraded over the years many times, it's a good rifle. The AK family is alright, but they are very heavy, you can't carry all that much ammunition, it's not very modifyable and most importantly, AKs are not very accurate when compared to most other rifles. Reliability has been their ace.

Of all the AK rifles, I think the best alternative is the Finnish Valmet/SAKO rk. 95. It's even more reliable, thanks to anti-frost systems, it's lighter, the sights are placed in a more convenient way, so it's more accurate and it may have interchangeable barrels, so you can change the calibre quite quickly. The stock is in line with the barrel, so recoil is more managable than in classic AKs. It's also more modifyable.(I spent 18 months in the Finnish armed forces, I know the rifle through and through. We fired AK 47s, 74s and even the 101. they were outpreformed by rk 95. Unless you have real military expertice, please, don't counter-hype)

My personal pick would be one of these: for harsh conditions and extreme reliability: the rk 95. For an intense urban conflict, I'd want a short rfle, a bullpup. Steyr AUG, SA80LA2, Tavor. They are proven, effective and dead accurate (600 yards? no problemo). The rate of fire is also good. For a more open fight, a big hitter. Possibly FN SCAR of even the museum piece FN FAL.(I wouldn't ignore the G36 or the Sig. SG 551 either) they are superbly accurate, may have a seriously big calibre and are reliable enough. Seriously, the FAL will blow doors of hinges, knock out heavy equippment such as radars and light vehicles. However, fire it on full auto and it soon becomes an AA gun.