What is the deal with The Dark Knight?

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Arsen

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Illogical escape plot.
The whole "blocking off several streets in Gotham (Chicago) to transport a single prisoner" thing.
The fact that the Joker wasn't truly evil enough.
The plot was horrible.
It was missing Liam Neeson.
 

Samurai Goomba

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SteelStallion said:
Although to be honest, Nolan is getting really really redundant with his pseudo philosophical shit in his movies, it's getting tiresome.
I completely agree with this. I don't think I really started noticing how grating this was getting until The Dark Knight. I mean, he's no David Fincher or Stanley Kubrick in terms of philosophy or depth, he should tone it down a bit.
 

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mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
Why do people think that movie is so good? I don't understand. I thought it was long, boring, anti-climatic, and I couldn't understand anyone. Maybe I'm just a 90 year old trapped in a 16 year old's body (I was fifteen when I saw it) but I don't see what all the rage is about in that movie.

ALSO I know I'm like 2 years late or whatever, but this was brought up by a thread about batman 3 and how DiCaprio would play the riddler and this one guy was saying how it could be like Heath Ledger as the Joker or something.
Heath Ledger did a great job of acting it and takeaway a few flaws I thought it was great.
 

Cyanin

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Saw it when i was 15, age has nothing to do with powers of interpretation, in fact, younger people are meant to have more open minds than older people, who have lived differently. As a younger person watching, you should've been more interested than less.

It was an amazing movie. One thing that annoys me so very much though, is when skeptics put a huge argument that it was only successful because of Heath Ledger's death. If he was still alive if wouldn't be that powerful a performance. Which is pure bullshit! Look at The Crow, that movie has great acting even though Brandon Lee died in the middle of the making of it.

I hate when people find unbased truths and believe utterly. It's very annoying..
 

Goldeneye103X2

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I think its that it was one of those movies which doesn't go and explain back-story like with begins or other superhero movies, and it just focuses on what happens then, which made it a fast-paced, complex, but fairly easy to understand drama.

Then again, when I saw it, I didn't expect half the movie to be a junior version of SAW.
 

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TPiddy said:
Strife2k7 said:
I don't know if DiCaprio could pull the role off or not. I'm just stating what the argument was from the other thread. Ledger wasn't well received when he was announced as Joker and I can only imagine that DiCaprio wouldn't be well received if he was announced as Riddler. I'd MUCH rather see Robin Williams play the part as a jaded older man who's extremely intelligent and very dark. He's done that before, in Insomnia, and it could work in the style I suggested in my second post very well without the silliness normally associated with Riddler.
Seconded... Or John Malkovich :).

Brings me back to the Chris Evans as Captain America hate thread.
As my dad has said before "When Robin Williams wants to act he ends up blowing you away. He just rarely seems to want to."

I think it is true, whenever he does a serious roll, even for a shitty film, I'm left in awe of his performance.

There are plenty of folks that just get typecast into crap when their abilities are far greater than those that end up getting the parts "they should have got".

Pugiron said:
If you are foolishly congratulating yourself for liking what alot of peopel liked, remember that Disco, The New Kids on the Block, N'Sync,
Wildly popular things for their time that are still influential in various modern popular things.

the Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber
Kids you could find in any highschool that sing as good as that group of kids that sings at any assembly at any highschool.

Otherwise your point is solid. Just kinda felt like "Just because they are all involved in music doesn't mean they are similar."

Cause short of taking music other people popularize and ruining it, I don't foresee the latter 2 examples every having the resonating power of the first 3 :p.
 

Assassin Xaero

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This is what happened when I watched it:
"Wow this is boring"
*falls asleep*
*wakes up when people start getting killed off*
"Cool, people are starting to die!"
*movie ends*
"Wow that was boring"
 

TPiddy

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theultimateend said:
As my dad has said before "When Robin Williams wants to act he ends up blowing you away. He just rarely seems to want to."

I think it is true, whenever he does a serious roll, even for a shitty film, I'm left in awe of his performance.

There are plenty of folks that just get typecast into crap when their abilities are far greater than those that end up getting the parts "they should have got".
Well, I think part of the problem is that the serious roles for Williams represent a smaller payday, and most studios aren't willing to cast him in a serious role because it doesn't bring a lot of bank to the table.
 

Smooth Operator

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Well not everyone likes everything, and you should always go into a movie without expectations.
I noticed that anything getting a high praise by the masses will push me to be far more critical about it, actually trying to disprove everyone(for some odd reason), thus enjoying it less then I normally would.

Personally I love the new Batman films, they are the first non-comedy creations in my eyes.
The only thing that bothered me with The Dark Knight was the Rachel replacement, while the first one was all cute and cuddly(very lovable) the new one was a complete cut-throat b*tch(or atleast that how she was portrayed), and so I couldn't quite grasp all the love/hate that was surrounding her.