What is with people?

[Kerboom]

Seriously, why are gamers such ridiculous hypocrites?

It is well and truly beyond me. The amount of people who are singing praises about Diablo 3 as if it's the second coming of Christ already is just stupid, considering when the retarded DRM was announced, everyone was baying for blood.

Please, make up your fucking mind.

Now, for the discussion value.

What's your take on the moronic nature of people who change their mind about things more often than a prostitute has sex?

 

[Popadoo]

I don't see how people changing their minds about a game as it gets close to release is effecting me in any way. Sure, it might be considered a little hypocritical, but they're just getting excited since the release is so close.
Also, perhaps the people excited about it are DIFFERENT to the people who complained about the DRM? I supposed to validate your opinion you tracked everyone who got angry about the DRM to see if they're not excited for it?

 

[Esotera]

I take issue with your OP, as your metaphor is inaccurate. Contrary to popular opinion, prostitutes don't actually need to have sex, as each session costs the client quite a bit.

Anyway, possibly it was different people being vocal about each things?

 

[Smithburg]

But of course gamers are bigger hypocrites than anyone else right? Cuz blanket statements are always true right? Anyway, I bitched about the way Diablo 3 does it's DRM and I'm not gonna touch it. There are way too many restrictions on something I'd be buying that it would just mess up the experience. Sometimes I really wish I could find the programs that these companies use and put horrific DRM on them to show them how irritating it is.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.

People who complained are not the same people who haven't.

 

[DoPo]

Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.

My name is "Gamers", for we are many. My friends call me "Shitload". And I constantly change my mind just to annoy everybody else.

Submit! Join us to end this madness you're subjected to!

 

[DementedSheep]

You do realise gamers aren?t a hive mind? The people complaining and the people praising aren?t necessarily the same.
Not to mention you can play and enjoy a game while still severely disliking certain aspects of it. It just depends on which you care about more.

 

[Lucem712]

We're human, it happens. Just like the first time you hear a certain song and you hate it. After listening to it a few times, you start bobbin' your head and eventually, it just grows on you. (Or you suffer the wrath of an earworm D: )

 

[Iwata]

Edit: Whoops, wrong thread.

Mods, delete, if you will.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Seriously, why are gamers such ridiculous hypocrites?

It is well and truly beyond me. The amount of people who are singing praises about Diablo 3 as if it's the second coming of Christ already is just stupid, considering when the retarded DRM was announced, everyone was baying for blood.

Please, make up your fucking mind.

Now, for the discussion value.

What's your take on the moronic nature of people who change their mind about things more often than a prostitute has sex?

Can you quote specific individuals who have spoken on both sides of this issue? Why not take it up with those individuals? And in private messages, yo, making a thread accusing individuals of hypocrisy, while possibly therapeutic for you, is likely to get you warned.

I think what's happened here is you saw a few people angry at Diablo 3, and then a period of time later you saw a few more people happy about Diablo 3, and came to the conclusion that the entirety of this forum or possibly the entirety of humanity in general had taken up a hypocritical position regarding whether or not Diablo 3 was a product worth having. I'm sure you can recognize why this kind of reasoning is flawed.

All that placed carefully to one side, however, I cannot for the life of me understand or appreciate the volume of your outrage here. People change their minds on issues all the time. Even if you HAD caught a person or a group of persons in the act of changing their mind on an issue...what of it? Never changing your mind on anything is not a virtue. Maybe they decided always on DRM wasn't as big a deal to them as originally suspected. Maybe they tried the beta and decided they enjoyed it enough to overlook its crimes. Or maybe they just changed their mind on some silly whim, as the whimsical are bound to do from time to time. What does it matter? What's your stake in this? Were you imagining gamers rising up in unison to topple Blizzard in punitive reprisal?

 

[unbreakable212]

Some people are willing to look past the bad things and be excited a game they want is coming out, others think the bad things about the game ruin it and thus won't buy it - Both sides are speaking about it.

Why does this anger you so?

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Do you have any proof about this aside from some people being angry and then some being happy? I don't see how that is being hypocritical since there is no guarantee they are the same people.

 

[Odbarc]

Nobody believed those idiots who boycott D3 when they all whined and pissed and moaned about every tiny little thing mentioned.

Fact is, EVERY single feature made 'someone' leave the game forever, cancel their preorder, ect. ect.
But if you think that there are maybe 1000 or less features, 8 billion people on Earth and as many as 12 million WoW or ex-WoW players who recognize Blizzard's brand and not including D2 players who never touched WoW coming into this game.


Is D3 the next coming of gaming?
Well, D1 was a smash hit. D2 was a smash hit. D2 expansion LoD was a smash hit. All things considered, D3 isn't likely going to miss it's mark based on this alone.
But Blizzard themselves also made the Warcraft series, World of Warcraft, Starcraft 1 & 2 and they're all raving successes. It's the Blizzard staple to release GREAT games.
Diablo 3 has a lot of people excited for many good and great reasons.
Most of those good reasons are simply experiences from Diablo 2. The kinds of impressions it gave people coming from Diablo 1, the kinds of impressions it left in our childhoods, young adult lives, the anticipation of all the good things coming in a greater third wave. We deserve to be excited.

Many of us probably pined over a theoretical D3 long before it was even announced.
Lucky me, I got in the Beta. It started off very D1 like in 3D with it's simplistic 'easy to learn' style. There's a lot not in the beta but it doesn't exalt our expectations, excitement or anticipation.
We're only hours away from the beast being unleashed. Hours. We've waited YEARS and now we're down to hours.

Are gamers hypocrites? Well, if you pay too much attention to the loudest people versus the humble crowds, yeah - you'd probably think that they are very much so. A lot of us are waiting. Patiently.

 

[Woodsey]

I don't see how people changing their minds about a game as it gets close to release is effecting me in any way. Sure, it might be considered a little hypocritical, but they're just getting excited since the release is so close.
Also, perhaps the people excited about it are DIFFERENT to the people who complained about the DRM? I supposed to validate your opinion you tracked everyone who got angry about the DRM to see if they're not excited for it?

Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.

People who complained are not the same people who haven't.

If there isn't a very large cross-over between the people who have complained previously about online DRM (the vast majority of PC gamers) and the sheer amount of people who have bought Diablo 3, I'll eat my own fucking face.

(I'm sure we don't have to roll out the MW2 'boycott' screenshot to lay out the case for Gamers v Self-Control.)

 

[Tony2077]

i really don't know just like i don't know why when people don't like something they think of reason that make them look like jerks or worse

 

[Tony2077]

I don't see how people changing their minds about a game as it gets close to release is effecting me in any way. Sure, it might be considered a little hypocritical, but they're just getting excited since the release is so close.
Also, perhaps the people excited about it are DIFFERENT to the people who complained about the DRM? I supposed to validate your opinion you tracked everyone who got angry about the DRM to see if they're not excited for it?

Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.

People who complained are not the same people who haven't.

If there isn't a very large cross-over between the people who have complained previously about online DRM (the vast majority of PC gamers) and the sheer amount of people who have bought Diablo 3, I'll eat my own fucking face.

why don't you relax and is it really that many who don't like it

 

[Cecilthedarkknight_234]

why are you lumping all gamers into one pile?? I think some drm is okay such as with steam or psn, xbla to get out games we would never normally see in physical format. Games like corpse party, recettar in english legally due to the niche market. Howvever the complaints that drm I will agree with is this
1.once you buy the game you are stuck with it, no trade in value or redeeming it for net money
2.pc games make you run to many programs at once just to one run one game slowing down your cpu affecting your performance
3.Drm is directly linked to an account, if that account is banned or nuked you loose all the money you invested in those games and can-not get any money back.
4.charging as much or the same as a physical copy of the game 'if one is available"
If they some how fix these three problems I will be fine until then eh I jump on the bandwagon every now and then for trolling's sakes steam has fixed a few of these problems with their sales over the years however there is still need for vast improvement.

 

[Woodsey]

I don't see how people changing their minds about a game as it gets close to release is effecting me in any way. Sure, it might be considered a little hypocritical, but they're just getting excited since the release is so close.
Also, perhaps the people excited about it are DIFFERENT to the people who complained about the DRM? I supposed to validate your opinion you tracked everyone who got angry about the DRM to see if they're not excited for it?

Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.

People who complained are not the same people who haven't.

If there isn't a very large cross-over between the people who have complained previously about online DRM (the vast majority of PC gamers) and the sheer amount of people who have bought Diablo 3, I'll eat my own fucking face.

why don't you relax and is it really that many who don't like it

A fairly large proportion of people don't like the idea of single-player being so massively tethered to something as unreliable as the internet, no. Your connection goes down? Fucked. Their servers go down? Fucked. Slow connection? Unnecessary lag, may as well be fucked. Want to play on a train journey? Fucked.

(And I always swear, chillax.)

Obviously the reaction was fiercer when Ubisoft announced it because they don't have any of PC gaming's "killer apps". Blizzard do, so people find it easier to ignore, although there was plenty of criticism initially.

 

[dyre]

I don't see how people changing their minds about a game as it gets close to release is effecting me in any way. Sure, it might be considered a little hypocritical, but they're just getting excited since the release is so close.
Also, perhaps the people excited about it are DIFFERENT to the people who complained about the DRM? I supposed to validate your opinion you tracked everyone who got angry about the DRM to see if they're not excited for it?

Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.

People who complained are not the same people who haven't.

If there isn't a very large cross-over between the people who have complained previously about online DRM (the vast majority of PC gamers) and the sheer amount of people who have bought Diablo 3, I'll eat my own fucking face.

(I'm sure we don't have to roll out the MW2 'boycott' screenshot to lay out the case for Gamers v Self-Control.)

But most people who didn't like DRM didn't say they were going to boycott it. The number of gamers who dislike DRM are many; the number who call for boycotts are few (comparatively speaking).

On the issue of MW2 boycotts and D3 boycotts, I believe the proper claim is that "gamers who declare boycotts are full of shit," not "gamers in general are hypocrites."