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Kahunaburger

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Well, I don't know. As far as I'm concerned it's still Shitty Grindfest: The Game! (Now with more intrusive DRM and transparent cash grabs by Blizzard.) Judging by this thread, I'm not the only one.
 

Vegosiux

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gamma said:
What's your take on the moronic nature of people who change their mind about things more often than a prostitute has sex?
It's only slightly less obnoxious and annoying than people who assume that it's always the same guys.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Using the line "the second coming of Christ" is such an overused and annoying hyperbole to describe someone's like of a topic, now..

Also, I happen to like Diablo 3's direction in terms of story and gameplay, even with the leaked ending. Nice refresher and more or less reminds me of the Diablo 2 glory days. I'm also indifferent to the battle.net log in.
 

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Das Boot said:
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A fairly large proportion of people don't like the idea of single-player being so massively tethered to something as unreliable as the internet, no. Your connection goes down? Fucked. Their servers go down? Fucked. Slow connection? Unnecessary lag, may as well be fucked. Want to play on a train journey? Fucked.

(And I always swear, chillax.)

Obviously the reaction was fiercer when Ubisoft announced it because they don't have any of PC gaming's "killer apps". Blizzard do, so people find it easier to ignore, although there was plenty of criticism initially.
The thing is Diablo 2 was basically a multiplayer game. That fairly large proportion of people is the less then 1% that nobody gives a fuck about. They are not a large proportion, the are an extremely small minority. Kind of like the people who buy CoD or SC2 and only ever play the story and nothing else.
Fine, but then they don't get an option to advertise a single-player campaign, because it should be offline.
 

Woodsey

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Das Boot said:
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Fine, but then they don't get an option to advertise a single-player campaign, because it should be offline.
Blizzard hasnt been advertising single player for diablo 3.
I mean claiming it has one, not running an ad campaign for it.
 

Woodsey

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Das Boot said:
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I mean claiming it has one, not running an ad campaign for it.
But blizzard has been stating all along that the game will be only online.
I can see this going round in circles. If they want to create a game that can be played in multiplayer or solo, then the solo gameplay should not be always-online.
 
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That's ass backwards.

Consider the game design and the DRM as 2 seperate entities, as they are. You can be excited about the game whilst being pissed off about tacked-on crap that has plenty of potential to ruin the experience.

Was anyone doubting the quality of the game? I'll admit I haven't been following it or caring about it. I just assumed that the outrage was at the fact that they've made something really good, and are now flicking shit at it.
 

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Das Boot said:
Woodsey said:
I can see this going round in circles. If they want to create a game that can be played in multiplayer or solo, then the solo gameplay should not be always-online.
Why cant it be always-online? When the game becomes insanely popular strictly because of its online gameplay what is wrong with its sequel being always online? The people are are


You are basically complaining that a multiplayer game requires you to be online in order to play it. You can deny it all you want but diablo 2 was a multiplayer game. Since single player was not a big deal they got rid of it to try and create something to appease the people who had been playing diablo 2 for the past ten years.
They didn't get rid of it, they made it online-only. Otherwise, single-player is as it was in Diablo 2. That's how it's been reported, that's how they've labelled it in interviews.
 

Nerexor

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See previous posts about not being a hive mind, and also pay attention to the forum posts about D3. There are still plenty of people bitching about the real money auction house and the "you have to be online" aspects of the game. The difference is that now that its release time, the people who don't care about that enough to boycott the game are expressing the fact that they want to play it.

It has nothing to do with hypocrisy and evertything to do with the "Yay! Diablo III is coming out and I'm going to play a Witch Doctor" voice being slightly louder than the "Diablo III has DRM and RMAH which means Blizzard is now Satan incarnate!" voice.
 

lazysquirell

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The term "gamer" only unites us by one shared trait... We like games. Not everyone in this community likes strawberry ice-cream some might love it and others will be indifferent to it. Does that make the "gamer" stance on strawberry ice-cream hypocritical? No because we're a collective of different people with different opinions we don't need to reach consensus. Ice-cream analogy ftw!... Right I'm off to get strawberry ice-cream now.
 

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gamma said:
Seriously, why are gamers such ridiculous hypocrites?

It is well and truly beyond me. The amount of people who are singing praises about Diablo 3 as if it's the second coming of Christ already is just stupid, considering when the retarded DRM was announced, everyone was baying for blood.

Please, make up your fucking mind.

Now, for the discussion value.

What's your take on the moronic nature of people who change their mind about things more often than a prostitute has sex?
Changing you mind is not a bad thing. In fact, changing your mind is a sign of an open thinking mind that is ready to challenge and check itself. Now, saying that people should make up their mind and stick to that position come hell or high water (or, in this case, new information) is really stupid.

In fact, this situation of gamers changing their mind about Diablo 3 is a perfect example of an intelligent reevaluation. They had based their initial opinion (that Diablo 3 would be bad) on what information was available at the time. As new information became available they reevaluated their position. The ability and willingness to reevaluate a position is the surest sign there is of an intelligent and thinking person.

What you may be thinking of are people who never really thought about an issue in the first place and are blown about by every new thought that comes into their head or by whoever they are with at the time. We have a name for these people, they are known as "tools," and they suck. But we can't exactly say they changed their mind as they never really decided on a position in the first place.
 

Scrustle

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Gamers are prone to hyperbole. It's just how we are. Or at the very least there are a subset who are prone to it, and shout it so loud they drown out the voices of all rational discourse.

But I think you are making a mistake in saying that they are hypocrites. It's not very often that you get the same people gushing over and hating on game at the same time. It's different people. With every high profile game there are fanboys and a counter culture to those fanboys. They both shout loudly and fiercely but they are not the same people most of the time.

There are also those people who get angry about these kinds of issues, but still sing the praises of a game's quality. Their love for the game itself is not diminished by the unethical practices of those who make/release it.
 

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DoPo said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Gamers aren't a hivemind you know.
My name is "Gamers", for we are many. My friends call me "Shitload". And I constantly change my mind just to annoy everybody else.

Submit! Join us to end this madness you're subjected to!
John Dies at the End reference, possibly? If so, you're my new best friend EVER.

Anyway, I'm apathetic towards this whole issue: Everyone has the right to change their mind when there's more information revealed, and it's perfectly natural for people to forget their previous anger in the face of excitement, at least in my mind.