What is your favorite scifi governmental organization?

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Jacco

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This is not a versus thread. And it is not a Halo thread (despite my opinions below). Just your favorite scifi organizations and why.

For Humans, mine would have to be UNSC from Halo. They are a competent military organization and stand more or less for a united and successful humanity. The only reason the Covenant killed them so badly was because of the sheer difference in technology levels.

For aliens, I would have to say (at the risk of being flamed) the Covenant because in just about every aspect they are pretty much the most badass alien empire I've ever seen.

Of all the governments out there in the genre of scifi, what is your favorite human one? Alien one? Why?
 

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The ones that I come up with in my head. They consist of various imperialist fascist coalitions with different sets of social and moral values, bent on world domination. They fight wars against each other. Sort of like a game of Civilization with more violence and psychosis.
 

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Cerberus, because I like the name, if a bit cliche, and I like the Lawful Evil "Its wrong but is right" type baddies.
 
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The Spectres from Mass Effect.

They're like the S.A.S., but in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace.

Friggin' techno ninjas.
 

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The Ork empire from Warhammer 40K.

They don't care about anything but war. Fighting for the sake of fighting. Hell you can't reason with them to stop unless you give them weapons to fight your enemies, but even then they would just turn on you once whoever they fought is dead.
 

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The Spectres from Mass Effect. Seriously can anyone think of anything cooler than an organisation of elite inter-stellar black-ops agents tasked to eliminate injustice wherever they find it and don't have to play by the rules?

It kind of makes me think, wouldn't the world be so much better if an organisation like this actually existed behind the scenes? Think about it, if we could have just sent one badass with complete deniability to take out Saddam Hussein and all his potential heirs, rather than made some bullshit excuse to go to was with his entire county at the cost of thousands of lives and billions of dollars, wouldn't that have been preferable?
 

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For me it would have to be the Titans from Gundam Zeta not for any real appeal or affinity I have for them but for what they represent.

For those not familiar, basically in the original Gundam series the Earth Federation fought the Principality of Zeon because the Principality of Zeon wanted independence for space colonists (and that kinda turned into world domination and all that jive). During the show we're lead to see the events from the Feddy's point of view but it becomes clear in later the series that there was no real "good guy" for that particular war. After the War the Feddies all but striped the space colonists of their rights. Basically since the Earth Federation already has world domination it now wants to completely subjugate the spacenoids because they not only fear the threat of Newtypes, a kind of evolved form of a psychic human, but because they fear that the spacenoids will rise up again and they basically want to trade the freedoms of the spacenoids for the safety and comfort on earth.

Through this parable we learn how fear and greed can lead to oppression and how easily our views of how things work are distorted through bias and perception. So why didn't I choose AUEG over Tians? Well because you can have revolutionaries with out an establishment to topple. Duh.
 

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The Federation.

Beurocratic it might be, rather too idealistic and lumbered with the horrible potential that Enterprise might remain Cannon forever. I still think it represents one of the best - or at least most optimistic - future government's yet seen.


Although I suppose at a stretch I could say the Star Kingdom of Manticore, because while they might have had the Janvier administration and other incompetents, it's otherwise a relatively realistic and yet optimistic views of future governance.

That and Black Space Queens, Killer telepathic hexapedal cats, a Logical (If total BS) FTL and physics system and its Wooden Ships Iron Men in space. Manticoran Missile Massacre away!
 

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pre much any organization from the to aru majutsu no index anime/novel series because.... hey who doesnt want a five member organization that can take on full out military attacks with epser and or magic abilities
 

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Vie said:
The Federation.

Beurocratic it might be, rather too idealistic and lumbered with the horrible potential that Enterprise might remain Cannon forever. I still think it represents one of the best - or at least most optimistic - future government's yet seen.
The Federation is way up there on my list too, but as a military force, they are as incompetent as it comes. In any realistic scenario, they would have gotten their asses handed to them by any of their enemies (Borg, Dominion, Klingons) because they just suck at fighting. Thats why I chose the UNSC- they are a happy medium between an idealistic utopia and an actual competent military force.
 

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The ones that work well and are not filled to the brim with corruption.
A man can dream.
 

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Jacco said:
Vie said:
The Federation.

Beurocratic it might be, rather too idealistic and lumbered with the horrible potential that Enterprise might remain Cannon forever. I still think it represents one of the best - or at least most optimistic - future government's yet seen.
The Federation is way up there on my list too, but as a military force, they are as incompetent as it comes. In any realistic scenario, they would have gotten their asses handed to them by any of their enemies (Borg, Dominion, Klingons) because they just suck at fighting. Thats why I chose the UNSC- they are a happy medium between an idealistic utopia and an actual competent military force.

I think the whole point of the federation was supposed to be that science, culture and diplomacy were a viable substitute to, say, kidnapping children and turning them into genetically enhanced super solder slaves.

I mean if that's you're idea of a happy medium I'd hate to see what you consider a repressed, military dominant society.
 

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Raso719 said:
Jacco said:
Vie said:
The Federation.

Beurocratic it might be, rather too idealistic and lumbered with the horrible potential that Enterprise might remain Cannon forever. I still think it represents one of the best - or at least most optimistic - future government's yet seen.
The Federation is way up there on my list too, but as a military force, they are as incompetent as it comes. In any realistic scenario, they would have gotten their asses handed to them by any of their enemies (Borg, Dominion, Klingons) because they just suck at fighting. Thats why I chose the UNSC- they are a happy medium between an idealistic utopia and an actual competent military force.
Well that science, culture and diplomacy sure served them well against the Borg, didn't it?


I think the whole point of the federation was supposed to be that science, culture and diplomacy were a viable substitute to, say, kidnapping children and turning them into genetically enhanced super solder slaves.

I mean if that's you're idea of a happy medium I'd hate to see what you consider a repressed, military dominant society.
That science, culture and diplomacy sure helped them against the Borg and the Dominion, didn't it?

The Federation is so backward when it comes to warfare that during one episode of TNG they sent Picard, Worf, and Crusher on a secret mission deep into Cardassian space and expected them to not only not be captured, but also to destroy what they thought was a super weapon. 3 members of the command crew instead of a special ops team that would be trained for exactly that kind of thing. I'll take my conscripted 6 year olds over that crap any day.
 

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Well, mine of course. Any government I come up in my head will have the incredible ability to do the one thing many real governments have trouble with: Working properly.

But if I had to choose from a media source in sci-fi...I would have to pick the human government of the anime, Heroic Age. It had its troubles and drawbacks and even idiots involved, but it was clearly a spot where humans weren't bastards and, indeed, decent people. They were protagonists worth BEING protagonists, especially the crew of the Argonaut and those of whom directly supported them...which was eventually everybody.
 

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The Time-Space Administration Bureau. They arm six year old girls with HUGE ASS FUCKING MAGIC CANONS and let the fun times and befriending roll.
 

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Stargate Command !

Yeah i'd like to work there, and then like on one of the front-line teams. Like SG-1 or 2 maybe. But to be able to go on ofworld on a daily basis. That would be enough reason for me to work at 'The SGC' ^^
 

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The Galactic Federation.
From Lilo and Stitch.
Seriously, watch the opening of Lilo and Stitch and try to not imagine a big empire with a sprawling history.
Can't do it now.
They're freaking cool.
 

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Torchwood. As awesome as it is, I don't mean the Jack Harkness Torchwood. I mean the original Torchwood back when they were evil- er I mean... Morally ambiguous.