What kind of males appeal the female demographic?

[Phasmal]

Few questions for you.

How much does the smirk affect his "sexy level," or whathaveyou?
The silver hair?

Garrus or Thane?

Certainly. It's not the smirk, it's his whole attitude. And the voice.
The hair doesn't make a difference imo.

I actually found none of the relationships in Mass Effect compelling. And boyfriend sold ME2 before I could finish it.

Snip.

Aaaand now I'm hungry. There's no chocolate in my house.

 

[NeutralDrow]

I could swear there are more Greek letters assigned to that: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Omega. Beta conveys too much importance. I could be thinking of something else, though.

Funny you should mention that. I tried reading the books and watching the movies. I saw Bella and Edward as a couple of clingy, codependent weirdos. The type of people who need a significant other in their lives to feel validated. Gave me the creeps. I actually knew a girl who used to date a guy a lot like Edward, flowery language and all. She broke up with him because she felt smothered.

Guess it just does to show that the reality seldom is anything like the fantasy.

Thing is, they're both clingy, codependent weirdos. I wouldn't call it emulatable by any stretch of the word, but they do seem made for each other.

The Alpha/Beta dynamic is only observed in wolves in captivity. It doesn't actually occur in wild wolves.

More accurately, it's an antiquated model of observed behavior. Wolf packs in the wild do have a set of specialized roles, but its not as rigidly hierarchical as previously believed. It's more a case of specializations.

Wow, so Werewolf: The Apocalypse actually got that right.

 

[DoomyMcDoom]

*snip*.

EVERY guy?
Does every girl? Or is this just a guy thing in your opinion*?
I just don't see it.
My boyfriend (just as an example) doesn't fit either of those descriptions, doesn't even seem a mix of the two.

I'll grant that not every guy uses alpha and beta in the creepy way but everytime it comes up there will be someone who swans in talking about women like they're a freaking nature proffessor and us women are just run by our instincts which OF COURSE they know all about. It's enough to make my skin crawl.

*Not being sarcastic. `In your opinion` always sounds so snarky.

EVERY human, has a mix of drives, fears, laziness, motivation.

The alpha/beta personality thing, is just to me a measurement of whether a person is confident in themselves or not, and to what degree, this applies to everyone, in different degrees at different times.

It's just that in the way a lot of the skeevier guys think and go about things, they dee it as cut and dry, one or the other.
in an even simpler descriptive, someone of a more alpha leaning personality is more likely to just do things without complaining, or worrying about if he/she offends someone, and are generally more confident in themselves as a whole, whereas people with more beta leaning tendancies tend to stay in the background more, and tend to have difficulty dealing with adversity in a proactive way.

even more simplified, you could say that agressiveness(which is almost always negative in it's social impact), and assertiveness(which unlike agressiveness is positive, more considerate, but still dominant in form, leadership requires this), are more classically alpha attributes, where passiveness, and passive agressiveness fall into beta territory.

And anyone who thinks that women just run on instinct, needs to look at themselves closer, everyone has instinctual drives that can push them in directions logic may not agree with, it's a universal human attribute atributed to us being mammals first, thinking sentient creatures second.

Also this is the internet, and I'm just another person here, so unless I go through the process of validating all of this in writing and showing it to be completely scientifically proven, it is an opinion, an opinion that I hold due to experience studying people, but an opinion none the less, so don't worry I don't find that statement offensive in any way.

Sorry about the wall of text, I tend to be needlessly verbose when conversing in text.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Thing is, they're both clingy, codependent weirdos. I wouldn't call it emulatable by any stretch of the word, but they do seem made for each other.

That's what I said. Edward is a mopey, arrogant, micromanaging dickhead and Bella is an emotionally retarded, self-important, pretentious ****. They're both the kind of hollow parasites on society that need a significant other to feel validated.

Ah. I thought you were questioning the realism of the relationship (since realistically, it likely would work...just be nauseating to watch).

Wow, so Werewolf: The Apocalypse actually got that right.

Haven't played it in years, so I can't say what you mean specifically. But as an example, the omegas were previously considered the losers of the pack. But it turns out they actually serve a very specialized role of breaking tension. When the pack are getting anxious even after any threat has passed, the omega has to get them playing and rough-housing again. Primates do this through laughter, so for canines this is the analog. It releases tension and causes endorphins to flow through the body. Wtihout the omegas, packs would self-destruct.

Ragabash!

Yeah, I was remembering some of the splatbooks suggestions about pack roles (spiritual leader, war leader, diplomat, spy, etc.) and specific instances of when leadership would shift away from the "alpha," along with the entire Auspice system (sneaks/omegas, spirit-talkers, lawkeepers, lorekeepers, and warriors).

 

[Madgamer13]

"...meeting women who think the duckface is a sexy way to take a picture..."

Hah! Excellent! The duckface is a pet peeve of mine, seeing it in pictures is bad enough, but seeing it as the profile picture of an apparantly pretty facebooker with 190,869 friends just irks me. Seems so fake.

Concerning male traits that are appealing to females? I am not certain, I am male myself and I've only ever had to fend off young ladies that wanted to use me against their boyfriends. These boyfriends usually share the 'drink-yourself-into-the-ground' trait, a trait I definately do not wish to have.

However, as I am scraping towards thirty years old now, I am not sure if I am old enough to really comprehend what individuals choose to be attracted by in another. I certainly have never had the compelling 'need' to seek out a partner. As such, I apologise for being unable to contribute in the way you might have wanted, OP and others, but I do have a preferred set of traits I would admire in another.

The set of traits would be; Integrity, Confidence, Responsibility, Reliability and Efficiency. Most of these traits can be exchanged for something which I see very little of, a little something called Self-Awareness. I don't care who you are, but if you show me self-awareness, I will be quite happy indeed. Even happier if you show a sense of self-awareness along with responsability, there is no barriers I know of that can be overcome with one taking ownership of themselves and their own developments.

This applies to both men and women for me, and does mean that I am far more likely to admire a potential suitor than to fall in this mythical love I keep hearing about. I am absolutely certain that there are both men and women out there who may think and feel as I do, I just havn't met them yet.

Also, stop with this Alpha/Beta/Omega psychological profile stuff, dividing the sexes is bad enough without dividing the psychological traits within those sexes.

 

[flames09]

You must be tripping balls, this HAS been asked many times before.

People, including womenz, are all different in their tastes. Hell I bet some would take micky mouse over anything else. You cant just go start asking these questions without a form of measurement, i.e a poll.

\Salami

 

[Freaky Lou]

I would like to see an over - sexualized character that appeals to females.

Dante of Devil May Cry.

Of course some women don't like his type of nonsense, but I don't like over-sexualized female characters like Ivy either, so I think he'd be the best example.

 

[Micromyni]

Romantic appeal is more about substance. You want to know why so many girls just love Edward Cullen? Because he is solely devoted to Bella. No matter how much she strays from him and lets him down, he's always there to catch her. He needs her, and though it takes her longer to figure it out, she needs him. That is what romantic appeal comes down to--the desire to need and be needed. Of course he's also hot, but fidelity and devotion are also very, very attractive.

Are you trolling? Twilight is not to be mentioned here unless it is for a derogatory reference.

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

For me it all depends. Mostly a character with depth (i.e I've fallen for Jim Raynor from Starcraft, Cole from inFamous & so on) but I will also fall for characters I find attractive (Baird from Gears of War, Dante from Devil May Cry & Kaiden from Mass Effect)

But I seriously think it depends with most female gamers. Hell, I'm not afraid to say I've fell for the generic space marine or action hero in games before. All depends on how they are made, there personality, ect.

(hell 'lovegame' came on my itunes while I was typing this. That's not weird.)

 

[Lilani]

Women will consider that person too clingy and needy in real life. Steph Meyer is the last person I would want to talk about human relationships, she struck gold by appealing to ages 12-18 but that's about it.

What, so games are allowed to aim for the male 12-18 demographic but not the female 12-18s? I understand 12-18 year old females are not an accurate representation of grown women (just as 12-18 males aren't grown men), but that doesn't make them an invalid or nonexistent market.

 

[ElPatron]

What, so games are allowed to aim for the male 12-18 demographic but not the female 12-18s? I understand 12-18 year old females are not an accurate representation of grown women (just as 12-18 males aren't grown men), but that doesn't make them an invalid or nonexistent market.

I must socially handicapped, or everyone has a thing for finding things to disagree.

>you said what you think that made Edward Cullen attractive
>I rebutted by saying that my personal experience shows that women don't actually like that
>I implied Meyer is a terrible writer/awful at understanding human emotions

No need for "hurr durr males". All I meant was that Meyer happened to hit the suitable market that was actually large enough to give the book notoriety - i.e. it was luck, a fluke, no skill involved.

Never use Alpha/Beta when trying to define personality types. (...)
My second problem with it, is it implies there are two types of people. There are a hell of a lot more than that.

Even with wildly different opinions, people usually chose from 2/3 kinds of actions.

Alpha, Beta and Omega are just extremes. There's a spectrum between them, sure. But they are enough to make everyone identify with at least one of them more than the others.

 

[The Elf Herself]

You know, it's funny. I was just thinking about this the other day and I came to the realization that I have a "type." I didn't know I had a "type," and I'm sorry that I can't really apologize for it. I feel horrible and shallow, but give me a guy with pretty eyes, a sense of humor that borders on the snarky and sarcastic, and a killer smile, and I'm GONE. Most important out of all of those is the sense of humor, and that the game/movie/book/what have you makes me care about the character. This is true in video games, other forms of media, and real life.
The characters I love who have shown me this:
Anders from Dragon Age: Awakening (he wasn't AS snarky in DA II, but there was enough to warrant some smoochin')
Raimon from the excellent manga "Tsubasa: Those with Wings"
Malcolm Reynolds. "Firefly." Swoon.
Westley from "The Princess Bride"
Benedick from Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Nothing"
Varric from DAII (why oh WHY was he not a romance option? /pout)
Guybrush Threepwood from the original Monkey Island series (you could probably call him my first video game love)

But the big one is Alistair from Dragon Age: Origins. I started several different playthroughs of that game, thinking to myself, "Oh, I'll romance Leliana or Zevran this time. That would be interesting." And then Alistair starts being doofy and awkward about everything and oh dear I seem to have picked the romance options without thinking silly me haha swooping isn't all that bad if we do it right.

 

[CAPTCHA]

This kind of thing is just stupid. There's no accounting for taste, no rules that attraction follows. Some people just get together and they have a chemistry.