Going by what a lot of people in here concider to be specifically manly, there sure are a lot of men in the world there with wide hips & bouncing breasts.
I think you have no idea what you're talking about. Manliness has roughly the same meaning in most parts of the globe, and people like you want to screw up what has worked fine for thousands of years.reg42 said:What I'm saying is that I don't think you can define who a man is, because people are different. What might be manly where you are, may be the opposite where I am.Jonathan Wingo said:When we're talking about being a man, we're talking about having the mindset of a man, not being physically a man.reg42 said:Then they're still a man, just immature.Cheveyo said:Physically someone can be a man, but mentally they're still a child.reg42 said:It's age. That's it.
I don't get why people get all pretentious about "being a man". You're a man once you stop developing physically, if you want to be technical.
Quite a few guys are like this.
I don't mean still liking cartoons or something.
Well, Joseph Campbell had some interesting things to say about this in The Power of Myth. He decried the gradual stripping away of rites of passage in Western society - he used something entirely from his age, that children wear trousers now. That was a symbol of growing up in his time.Cowabungaa said:I've got a question for you, fellow Escapees.
A while ago I made a thread about some personal problems. One poster suggested that I should join the Marines as 'they'll make a man out of you, some can live their entire lives without being a man.' And that got me wondering; what is it that makes a man a Man? What separates the men from the boys, so to speak.
Is it a ritual, is it a certain rite of passage, is it an achievement or a state of mind, and is it important to become a man? Do discuss.
What makes a man, is it the woman in his arms?johnzaku said:What makes a man, is it the woman in his arms...
just cause she has big titties?
Or is it the way, he fights every day?
...
no it's probly the titties!
DVDA is a funny band at times. =]
Though personally I must say the whole question is arbitrary and subjective =/
That was wasn't needed. I stated my point of view, if you really have that much of a problem with someone on the internet (to the point where you need to insult me) having a different opinion than yourself, then maybe you should stay away from topics like these.Jonathan Wingo said:I think you have no idea what you're talking about. Manliness has roughly the same meaning in most parts of the globe, and people like you want to screw up what has worked fine for thousands of years.reg42 said:What I'm saying is that I don't think you can define who a man is, because people are different. What might be manly where you are, may be the opposite where I am.Jonathan Wingo said:When we're talking about being a man, we're talking about having the mindset of a man, not being physically a man.reg42 said:Then they're still a man, just immature.Cheveyo said:Physically someone can be a man, but mentally they're still a child.reg42 said:It's age. That's it.
I don't get why people get all pretentious about "being a man". You're a man once you stop developing physically, if you want to be technical.
Quite a few guys are like this.
I don't mean still liking cartoons or something.
I'm not sure where that came from. What is it, exactly which has "worked fine for thousands of years"? You didn't explain what that was.and people like you want to screw up what has worked fine for thousands of years.
How do you know? Have you studied the cultures of every race and people on the planet?Manliness has roughly the same meaning in most parts of the globe
Look, think whatever you want, I'm done with this little argument. I did too much arguing over in the March Mayhem forums, I'm getting tired of fighting with people who won't listen.reg42 said:That was wasn't needed. I stated my point of view, if you really have that much of a problem with someone on the internet (to the point where you need to insult me) having a different opinion than yourself, then maybe you should stay away from topics like these.Jonathan Wingo said:I think you have no idea what you're talking about. Manliness has roughly the same meaning in most parts of the globe, and people like you want to screw up what has worked fine for thousands of years.reg42 said:What I'm saying is that I don't think you can define who a man is, because people are different. What might be manly where you are, may be the opposite where I am.Jonathan Wingo said:When we're talking about being a man, we're talking about having the mindset of a man, not being physically a man.reg42 said:Then they're still a man, just immature.Cheveyo said:Physically someone can be a man, but mentally they're still a child.reg42 said:It's age. That's it.
I don't get why people get all pretentious about "being a man". You're a man once you stop developing physically, if you want to be technical.
Quite a few guys are like this.
I don't mean still liking cartoons or something.
I do know what I'm talking about, so if you want to continue what I thought was a civil discussion, then please, keep the insulting to a minimum.
Also,I'm not sure where that came from. What is it, exactly which has "worked fine for thousands of years"? You didn't explain what that was.and people like you want to screw up what has worked fine for thousands of years.How do you know? Have you studied the cultures of every race and people on the planet?Manliness has roughly the same meaning in most parts of the globe
I somehow feel what actually we are talking about is being a stereotype of a macho man. I defenitly would never want to be that as despite their masculanity they resemble the mentality of a 5th grade bully boy.Jonathan Wingo said:When we're talking about being a man, we're talking about having the mindset of a man, not being physically a man.reg42 said:Then they're still a man, just immature.Cheveyo said:Physically someone can be a man, but mentally they're still a child.reg42 said:It's age. That's it.
I don't get why people get all pretentious about "being a man". You're a man once you stop developing physically, if you want to be technical.
Quite a few guys are like this.
I don't mean still liking cartoons or something.
I agree with this. Get a place, get a job and rule over your own life.PayJ567 said:When you provide your own everything. The second you depend on only yourself you are a man.
So you attack me without making any sort of argument, I counter by stating my argument yet again, and then you respond by attacking me again and still not making an argument against mine, and yet I'm one of the "people who won't listen"Jonathan Wingo said:-snip-
If you're the definition of a 'Man' then I'll pass. I'd rather be a pussy than a dickJonathan Wingo said:You want to be a man, or do you want to be a pussy and have all the men laugh at you and beat the shit out of you on a regular basis? Take your pick.reg42 said:It's age. That's it.
I don't get why people get all pretentious about "being a man". You're a man once you stop developing physically, if you want to be technical. But really, who cares? Why does one have to "be a man", why can't someone just live life the way they want?
So a man who takes care of his family, as in takes care of the household etc etc, while his wife brings in the money is not a man?Vanguard_Ex said:A man is someone who meets a nice girl and helps her. He erases her insecurities, he makes her feel loved when no one else will even talk to her, he supports her when things get tough. He starts a family with her, and provides this girl and his kids with not just emotional support, but financial support, gives them a shelter over their heads and puts food on the table. He protects them, from bullies and poverty alike. That, that is a man, in my opinion.
Wasn't my point. Not saying you gotta be a dick to be a man, but you gotta be tough to stand up to the dicks rather than be the pussy that gets fucked all day by them.MrPokeylope said:If you're the definition of a 'Man' then I'll pass. I'd rather be a pussy than a dickJonathan Wingo said:You want to be a man, or do you want to be a pussy and have all the men laugh at you and beat the shit out of you on a regular basis? Take your pick.reg42 said:It's age. That's it.
I don't get why people get all pretentious about "being a man". You're a man once you stop developing physically, if you want to be technical. But really, who cares? Why does one have to "be a man", why can't someone just live life the way they want?![]()