What Makes Guns so Awesome or Not Awesome to You?

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DuplicateValue

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Wadders said:
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Guns are not awesome to me for unromanticising (word?) combat.
There's nothing beautiful or skilful about killing someone with a gun in one-on-one combat.
What's beautiful about killing anyone with anything? Especially in one on one combat Be it gun, sword or chainsaw. I somehow doubt that Roman Gladiator fights, or duels in the middle ages were particularly beautiful affairs.
There's something I like about the idea of two people locked in honourable combat. Maybe not the Gladiator fights (though that was hardly honourable), but certainly in Medieval duels.
The sword, to me, is a symbol of a time when your survival depended an your skill with the weapon, rather than who can spot the other person and pull the trigger first.
So yes, I find it beautiful.

As for your other point about the snipers and all that, I'll admit you have a point.
 

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Valksy said:
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Not awesome, they kill people. I don't feel I need to explain this any more.
What about target shooting as a sport?
I could live without that.
Of all the gun users in the world, how many of them do you think use them for target shooting? Just saying.
Besides, you can use pellet guns for target shooting.
 

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I'm pretty much with everyone saying they don't like guns because they're a deadly weapon, and I'm a pacifist.

Plus, in one week when I was five I saw a squirrel shot in the mouth right in front of me (I still remember seeing the blood and chewed up acorn) and I got shot in the leg with a BB gun (same BB gun, actually; my big brother's friend had just gotten it, so they had been playing around with it all week, and only stopped after I got hit in the leg), and it completely put me off guns forever.
 

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RadioActiveChimp said:
DuplicateValue said:
Guns are not awesome to me for unromanticising (word?) combat.
There's nothing beautiful or skilful about killing someone with a gun in one-on-one combat.
battlefield tactics fag
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I'm sorry, what?

Edit: Oh, now I see what you're trying to say. Yeah, whatever - reported.
If you want people to listen to your arguments, fine. But at least have the maturity to do it without calling names.
 

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I never understood people loving guns without at the same time believing they need it to shoot burglars. It's one thing to deeply appreciate the design and mechanics of tech in general, but to single out one particular family of device and obsess over it at the exclusion of others seems odd. Especially when its the only machine that historically is designed and used to kill human beings. I think 'appreciating the technology' of guns just doesn't cut it; I drive a car that's propelled forward by the harnessed power of a million tiny explosions, and if you'd rather learn about a gun than something like that, then I'm pretty sure you just like the feeling of destructive power that comes from holding and owning a deadly weapon.
 

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As a pacifist, I know nothing of guns in real life, however I play games involving them because they are fun.

Guns that are awesome include pump action shotguns, bolt action snipers, lever action anything. Pretty much any gun that isn't automatic or semi-automatic, because those guns (with the exception of the Dragunov) are not awesome in the slightest.
 

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I do not think guns are awesome. They are tools created for a despicable purpose:killing. It says something about our nature, something unflattering, that such tools are used for anything but hunting of game and that we as a race need them in order to not degenerate into international conflicts.

The world would be a better place without armies. But as we all know, that isn't going to happen. Paradoxically, modern firearms have made warfare less costly in terms of human lives lost. The firepower that can be delivered is so devastating that decade-long conflicts of half-a-million men each going head to head on an open field are gone. The guns, being the utterly ruthless and frighteningly efficient tools of killing have necessitated the change in tactics and strategy that in the end saves lives on both sides.

But guns are not cool. And the day I think they are, is the day something important within me has died.

Understand, this isn't coming from a wannabe hippie or idealistic, naive youth seeing only sunshine and gummibears. This is coming from a man with military training as a medic sergeant, but thank holy Fandango, one with no practical experience of war.
 

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Joe Matsuda said:
they kill

as such "not awesome"

(I'm a pacifist)
Bet that's rough. What do you do when everyone around you decides they're not pacifist? Granted I suppose that's a "worst-case scenario", but still...

Guns are awesome because they have leverage. Even if you don't use them, they can still end a fight. Even if you don't have ammo, its still a big metal pole you can swat someone with. Note that I am not referring to pistols, I'd rather use something that could reliably penetrate a couple of heavy coats, or maybe a car door, or something that has both "dont F with me" presence and knockdown power, like a shotgun.

Best quality of them is something that amounts to calling a bet in poker: basically, bring one out for defense and you're saying "if you want to proceed with this stupidity, best be prepared to lose something important." Great way to stop fights before they ever get physical.

EDIT: Also, for the love of Christ, GUNS do not kill people. They can't pull their own triggers, or aim themselves. Don't blame the tool, blame the user.
 

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stinkychops said:
reg42 said:
Valksy said:
reg42 said:
Not awesome, they kill people. I don't feel I need to explain this any more.
What about target shooting as a sport?
I could live without that.
Of all the gun users in the world, how many of them do you think use them for target shooting? Just saying.
Besides, you can use pellet guns for target shooting.
Gun owners are not soldiers, therefore, most gun owners would go to do target shooting.
If we're talking about people who've actually paid for a license, and legally acquired their gun, sure. I'm talking about all the people who possess a gun.
 

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guns are awesome because they're a tool of war, what makes a gun cool for me is custumization. i love all the attachments i can throw on a M4
 

MattyDienhoff

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Guns, like other weapons, are instruments of power. That's what makes them awesome. The fact that they go boom helps.

DuplicateValue said:
Guns are not awesome to me for unromanticising (word?) combat.
There's nothing beautiful or skilful about killing someone with a gun in one-on-one combat.
I mightily hope you're talking about artistic depictions only, because combat isn't romantic and never was, and there is nothing even remotely beautiful about killing, regardless of the weapon used.

As for the skill involved, yes, most hand-to-hand weapons require a lot more practice to be used effectively than do firearms, but that doesn't mean there's no skill involved in using the latter. Certainly, just about anyone can fire a gun, but whether or not they can hit the broad side of a barn (and without shooting themselves or someone else in the process) is another matter entirely, as shooting at and actually hitting something beyond point blank range is a lot harder than most people think; people who've watched too many movies seem to think using a gun is as simple as waving it in the general direction of the target and striking it dead as if by magic, it's not. Read up on what military snipers do, then tell me there's no skill involved.

Latinidiot said:
I don't like guns, or warfare with guns one bit. It's almost cowardly to kill your enemies from a distance.(I know that the enemy does that too, so I'm not calling modern soldiers cowards). with swords there's more skill to it.
As above.
 

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reg42 said:
Not awesome, they kill people. I don't feel I need to explain this any more.



For me, well... I'm neutral about guns. they're just another tool. With any tool, it's the user who decides what to do with it.
 

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MattyDienhoff said:
Guns, like other weapons, are instruments of power. That's what makes them awesome. The fact that they go boom helps.

DuplicateValue said:
Guns are not awesome to me for unromanticising (word?) combat.
There's nothing beautiful or skilful about killing someone with a gun in one-on-one combat.
I mightily hope you're talking about artistic depictions only, because combat isn't romantic and never was, and there is nothing even remotely beautiful about killing, regardless of the weapon used.
Having not used swords/guns in my life, and having not actually been around when swords were widely in use, artistic impressions are all I have to go on.
 

Kollega

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I'd rather live in a world where problems can be solved without killing anyone. But when we must resort to violence, we can at least try to look stylish in process, right? In the end, guns don't kill people - ones who carry them do. And when moral issues are not involved (i.e. when you're shooting at inanimate objects), the destructive potential is pretty awesome.

Aunel said:
what makes guns awesome?
when they have strings on them of course!

Make music, not war!