What? No Catherine Rage?

[AyreonMaiden]

It's Atlus. Too low profile for them.

What there HAS been a lot of, however, is lots of Willful Ignorance, for whatever reason.

By which I mean people insisting that it's "________ with sex/tits" or "misogynist" in spite the fact that most reviewers have said the complete opposite.

In a game about a temptress leading a man astray, just what the hell WOULD those marketing doctorates use to give it a face for the public to know what it's about? I really wanna know how these whiners would have marketed Catherine.

Moreover, for a bunch of people who want new IPs and different ideas for gaming, we sure are close-minded when we call it "________ with tits" and leave it at that, aren't we?

Is it that because games are "art" now people need to be "ambassadors" of "moralistic" gaming to put on a face for the public? Or are all those people really that short-sighted that they don't know to play the fucking game (no, not just a demo, and this applies to every game) before forming your opinion?

 

[epialesofaergia]

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[Noswad]

Maybe it's because everyones been preoccupied with more important things. American have been watching as there politicians have a giant slap fight. Over here in Europe we're watching as Greece and Italy pull all our economies down the toilet, mind you at least its better than in the new world. It is staggering haw much denial the tea party must be in, seriously they should form a cult.

In short there are better things to be worried about.

 

[krazykidd]

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Seriously? Nothing? Nothing from Fox News, nothing from the hardcore right-wingers, nothing from the Bible-thumping Christians?

Maybe I'm just living under a rock and this actually has happened, or maybe it's because of that whole Debt Bill thing eating up all the news time, but seriously? Come on. There HAS to be someone raging about Catherine somewhere, right?

Question one : did you even play catherine?
Question two : why do you think there should be catherine rage?
Question three: did you even play catherine?

OT: theres no catherine rage because there's nothing to rage about , i'm assuming you didn't play catherine if you think there is. There's no nipples or asses or visible penises , hell they don't even have a sex scene like dragon age and mass effect has . Vincent just wakes up in boxers next to a (obviously ) naked catherine bt we dont see anything. Did you look at the box and assumere there was nudity? Ther're are just suggestive sexual theme by implying they had sex , thats it . So before hating , play the game .

 

[Akihiko]

It's a small title, course not. Besides there isn't really any visable nudity or anything anyway.

 

[ArchAngelKira]

Sometimes I wonder if everyone in fox news is a prude. Does anyone else get that feeling?

 

[SwimmingRock]

Or you could admit that some of us far right Christian folk actually love the games Atlus makes. I'm sure a lot of things will make more sense after that.

No, that doesn't explain anything. The "far right Christian folk [who] actually love the games Atlus makes" are not the ones who usually start a shitstorm about other games. You're essentially lumping yourself in with the nutjobs here and pointing out you're not crazy. Nobody said you were.

OT: Please, for the love of whatever you hold Holy, don't ever attract the hate-gaze of the anti-videogame crusaders to Atlus. I need my fix of crazy every few years. If Jack "I need a hobby" Thompson and his goon squad find out about Atlus, we're totally and completely boned.

 

[GrimHeaper]

There was no controversy about the evokers in Persona 3 (or literally anything in Nocturne or DDS) so it's not too surprising they haven't picked up on this game. Although.. it does seem a more likely candidate for a fuss than their other games if only due to the ads and box art.

Still, it's Atlus. They slip under the radar.

Actually there was, but it was small.

 

[gigastrike]

They probably don't even know it exists. When was the last time you saw a TV ad for it?

 

[Plucky]

Isnt Catherine some sort of action puzzle game thats sort of a cross between Qbert and umm...tetris? (hard to describe) where the main story is about some guy going out with 2 girls called Catherine...with the other one spelt with a K or somthing?

the core gameplay is probably tame, though the cutscenes/aesthetics might just be disturbing or something....again i don't really know much about it, but chances are that it being translated/published by a not well known company has something to do with it.

 

[Araksardet]

It's not a shooter.

Gods forbid right-wing media (or, heck, the more happiness-controlling elements of the left-wing media) expose their audience to the fact that video games have the potential to be anything other than raping people and shooting them in the face. Wouldn't want them to suddenly understand the potential diversity of games, now, would we?

Even Mass Effect's controversy probably only existed because it had shooter elements; otherwise, the good people at Fox probably wouldn't have known it was a video game.

 

[ProfessorEkim]

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Someone else showed me it, and I bookmarked it to show others for shits and giggles, here.

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[Scizophrenic Llama]

Catherine definitely didn't get enough advertising for them to care.

I almost wish they did, just so they could get a shitstorm from gamers pretty much disproving whatever they would say.

Haven't seen a good Amazon bombing on some crackpot who gives half-assed research on the topic in a while.

 

[ten.to.ten]

I doubt most gamers are even aware of Catherine's existence, let alone the baby boomers who run TV channels and churches.

 

[DanDeFool]

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Seriously? Nothing? Nothing from Fox News, nothing from the hardcore right-wingers, nothing from the Bible-thumping Christians?

Maybe I'm just living under a rock and this actually has happened, or maybe it's because of that whole Debt Bill thing eating up all the news time, but seriously? Come on. There HAS to be someone raging about Catherine somewhere, right?

Question one : did you even play catherine?
Question two : why do you think there should be catherine rage?
Question three: did you even play catherine?

OT: theres no catherine rage because there's nothing to rage about , i'm assuming you didn't play catherine if you think there is. There's no nipples or asses or visible penises , hell they don't even have a sex scene like dragon age and mass effect has . Vincent just wakes up in boxers next to a (obviously ) naked catherine bt we dont see anything. Did you look at the box and assumere there was nudity? Ther're are just suggestive sexual theme by implying they had sex , thats it . So before hating , play the game .

Wait, let me get this straight:

You are dissapointed that there are no people, that have not a single clue about video games, are talking bad of video games on national TV?

What the fuck is wrong with you?!

Hey, hey! Easy does it! Nobody's trying to hate. And I'm not really disappointed; I was being facetious. Mostly, I was just surprised. I guess I should have made that clearer in my original post.

I mean, they were so fast to give Mass Effect a good thrashing (a game that was, content-wise, completely status-quo for American entertainment) because it had ONE sex scene in it, which, in itself, was hardly what any reasonable person would consider pornographic.

Now we have a game that is thematically (or so I've read) about sex--indeed, about pre-marital sex and cheating (something I would expect the Christian right to spontaneously combust over)--that has a picture of a half-naked man sliding between the... surprisingly reasonably sized breasts of a blond hottie as she removes her skimpy nightdress, and nobody seems to care.

I do agree that's a net positive, but what I think is more telling is that Fox News and their ilk only seem to act as our "moral guardians" when it's convenient for them (i.e., when all the real news dries up).

P.S.: In spite of the fact that I don't own a PS3 or X360, I already bought a copy of Catherine because I was worried that the shitstorm could hit at any time and Catherine might get deported back to Japan. Guess I was being overly-paranoid, but whatever. Supporting innovative and unusual titles is its own reward, though it doesn't do much to take the sting out of looking like an idiot.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Its a kooky Japanese game. No one in their right mind is going to take it seriously, because it doesn't matter how good your metaphor is if one half of it involves you being eaten by a giant undead baby. You WILL lose your audience. It didn't work for Drakengard, either.

 

[lacktheknack]

It's not mainstream enough. See also: Witcher, Witcher 2.

This.

Toss in the fact that it looks like a cartoon to them, and they just feel that it's worth pursuing.

 

[Cain_Zeros]

It's an obscure Japanese game that's gotten pretty much no coverage at all outside the gaming community. Fox News etc don't even know it exists.

 

[Iron Lightning]

Atlus in general is pretty much immune to moral outrage. They've made a few games about literally killing God and there was no significant rage from anyone. It's uncanny, isn't it.