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Vausch

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Volf99 said:
Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Also, hating religion for the sake of it and atheist that talk down to people who do believe in a certain religion. You don't like organized religion, or religion in general for that matter, fine, but shut the f*ck about telling me why I'm "wrong" for believing in something. I don't go to atheist and talk/type down to them, I'd ask that they do the same.
You don't, and I respect you for that, but unfortunately admitting you're an atheist can get you scorn like you wouldn't believe in an area like mine. Seriously, when you're yelled at by a group of people saying you're the worst kind of person in the world there's something wrong. It works both ways, is all I'm saying.
Yes I realize that its not one sided. Someone typed it before, but I'll repeat it, "your religious beliefs are like a penis, keep it to yourself and don't force it down somebody's throat". I don't like when either group makes an @ss out of themselves by insulting the opposing group.
Well... let me see if I can say it in a way that doesn't make me sound like a git...

The reason (I think) atheists and anti-religion people tend to be more vocal on the internet and in smaller groups is what I could equate to the "trample effect". On the internet, a person can vocalise their opinions and beliefs, and in small groups they can say something of the like and have it be considered rather than get a dozen of aforementioned "you're the worst thing ever and you worship Satan despite not believing in him" people start verbally ripping into you with stuff you feel is nonsense or worse when they start getting physical. Internet speakers mean they can either skip a message or just say their point then leave, letting those they believe to be wrong just get angry and post "God will smite you" without a second thought to it. Very much aware that is a harsh generalisation but again, I live in a place with more churches than restaurants and grocery stores combined.

As for insulting the opposing groups... well, I could explain that from the atheist perspective but I think it would come across as making an arse out of myself.
 

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Arsen said:
That's exactly what I am saying: Everyone has their own definition as to what racism "is" in their minds. It doesn't matter who defines it, what categorizes it, etc. It has no definition set in stone
Well, you see, the definition that I was working from is the definition written in the dictionary. It has a set in stone definition. The problem here is (and to this end, I agree with you) that people tend to distort the actual definition. Racism is a serious problem that can negatively affect others, but too many people cry it out when it isn't necessary. When it actually is an issue, it tends to get ignored.
 

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People who jump down my throats with criticisms or "good for you!"'s as soon as I mention I'm vegan (in context), without me doing anything to invite it.

Or the "OHMYGOD, WHAT DO YOU EAT!?!?!?!?" response. I get it every. fucking. time. Or especially someone who says with an edge of smugness "What about protein and B12?" Yeah, it's been my diet for years, I /totally/ wouldn't know what those were or how to get them. *facedesk*
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Well... let me see if I can say it in a way that doesn't make me sound like a git...

The reason (I think) atheists and anti-religion people tend to be more vocal on the internet and in smaller groups is what I could equate to the "trample effect". On the internet, a person can vocalise their opinions and beliefs, and in small groups they can say something of the like and have it be considered rather than get a dozen of aforementioned "you're the worst thing ever and you worship Satan despite not believing in him" people start verbally ripping into you with stuff you feel is nonsense or worse when they start getting physical. Internet speakers mean they can either skip a message or just say their point then leave, letting those they believe to be wrong just get angry and post "God will smite you" without a second thought to it. Very much aware that is a harsh generalisation but again, I live in a place with more churches than restaurants and grocery stores combined.

As for insulting the opposing groups... well, I could explain that from the atheist perspective but I think it would come across as making an arse out of myself.
I understand that the internet can provide a place for people to voice their opinion with out having to be harassed (at least not physically)about it. However, I have little tolerance for a group of people (I'm generalizing) that understand what its like to be harassed for their beliefs, values and perspective, and yet deem it ok to turn around and act the same way towards people they don't see eye to eye with. The hypocrisy is too much.

One side comment (not directed at you personally) would be that Christianity and Islam do NOT represent all religion. Enough already with people concluding that because they don't like Islam or Christianity for reasons x, all religions must have the same problem. That simply is not the case. (end rant)
 

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This, a thousand, thousand times this. We have to draw the line somewhere, but noo a few stolen brats and some spineless government officials and we're still paying for these "people" to live in alcoholic squalor
Yeah totally. I mean who cares about stealing someones children, especially when its the native population that is having their children stolen by the government set up by people of foreign descent. Their hardly even people, right?(sarcasm)
 

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When I open the door for an old lady and she doesn't thank me so I shout "YOU'RE WELCOME *****" into her ear then everyone in the vicinity starts giving me dirty looks.
 

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Volf99 said:
Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Well... let me see if I can say it in a way that doesn't make me sound like a git...

The reason (I think) atheists and anti-religion people tend to be more vocal on the internet and in smaller groups is what I could equate to the "trample effect". On the internet, a person can vocalise their opinions and beliefs, and in small groups they can say something of the like and have it be considered rather than get a dozen of aforementioned "you're the worst thing ever and you worship Satan despite not believing in him" people start verbally ripping into you with stuff you feel is nonsense or worse when they start getting physical. Internet speakers mean they can either skip a message or just say their point then leave, letting those they believe to be wrong just get angry and post "God will smite you" without a second thought to it. Very much aware that is a harsh generalisation but again, I live in a place with more churches than restaurants and grocery stores combined.

As for insulting the opposing groups... well, I could explain that from the atheist perspective but I think it would come across as making an arse out of myself.
I understand that the internet can provide a place for people to voice their opinion with out having to be harassed (at least not physically)about it. However, I have little tolerance for a group of people (I'm generalizing) that understand what its like to be harassed for their beliefs, values and perspective, and yet deem it ok to turn around and act the same way towards people they don't see eye to eye with. The hypocrisy is too much.

One side comment (not directed at you personally) would be that Christianity and Islam do NOT represent all religion. Enough already with people concluding that because they don't like Islam or Christianity for reasons x, all religions must have the same problem. That simply is not the case. (end rant)
Sometimes it does feel as if you can't point out a hypocrisy without seeming like a hypocrite yourself, doesn't it? Another big thing people like me have is that it seems we as a country are run by the religious, often the nutty religious, that say every answer to everything is in a 1700 year-old book that should be interpreted literally. Then somebody stands up and says something along the lines of "But that book also says a raped woman has to marry her rapist..." then somebody screams "You're trying to step on my beliefs! You can't interpret it literally!". But yeah, as much as I like Richard Dawkins he tends to come across as a little smug even if I agree with almost everything he says.

Well aware, they just are about 60% of the world. In fact I have noticed many of the Eastern religions seem to have fewer (if you'll forgive the term) insane people willing to kill others to prove their religion is all about peace. Instead there are Buddhist monks willing to burn themselves alive in the middle of a street, which is also rather sad. I do hate that the insane become the first things thought of for religions, but it isn't helped that it seems to be happening on a nigh weekly basis as of late.
 

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Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Vausch said:
Volf99 said:
Sometimes it does feel as if you can't point out a hypocrisy without seeming like a hypocrite yourself, doesn't it? Another big thing people like me have is that it seems we as a country are run by the religious, often the nutty religious, that say every answer to everything is in a 1700 year-old book that should be interpreted literally. Then somebody stands up and says something along the lines of "But that book also says a raped woman has to marry her rapist..." then somebody screams "You're trying to step on my beliefs! You can't interpret it literally!". But yeah, as much as I like Richard Dawkins he tends to come across as a little smug even if I agree with almost everything he says.

Well aware, they just are about 60% of the world. In fact I have noticed many of the Eastern religions seem to have fewer (if you'll forgive the term) insane people willing to kill others to prove their religion is all about peace. Instead there are Buddhist monks willing to burn themselves alive in the middle of a street, which is also rather sad. I do hate that the insane become the first things thought of for religions, but it isn't helped that it seems to be happening on a nigh weekly basis as of late.
I think I can say that I agree with pretty much everything you typed. :D