What on Earth are WB doing with Lord of the Rings?

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Thedutchjelle

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The Apple BOOM said:
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Are the Lord of the Rings movie tie in games, good? Been thinking of buying the trilogy for the ps2 and they seem to be a step above most movie tie in games.
The last 2 are great. The first one was awful. I'm still somewhat upset I don't have my copy of Two Towers anymore.
I actually think that the fellowship game was pretty good, as it actually followed the book more instead of the movies. TTT and RoTK were just hack-and-slash obvious movie tie ins. They even just took clips from the movies as cutscenes :\
 

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Thedutchjelle said:
The Apple BOOM said:
Marik2 said:
Are the Lord of the Rings movie tie in games, good? Been thinking of buying the trilogy for the ps2 and they seem to be a step above most movie tie in games.
The last 2 are great. The first one was awful. I'm still somewhat upset I don't have my copy of Two Towers anymore.
I actually think that the fellowship game was pretty good, as it actually followed the book more instead of the movies. TTT and RoTK were just hack-and-slash obvious movie tie ins. They even just took clips from the movies as cutscenes :\
This is so weird, I love the first and third games, but I thought the second game was bad, I played it for about 30 minutes and the combat just felt wrong.
 

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All looks extremely dubious, not sure how the lore supports an undead ranger?
It actually could. The tricky part is how exactly this undead ranger wouldn't fall under the thrall of Sauron or one of the Ringwraiths.

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Wraiths#History

They could certainly bend the lore enough for it to be feasibly canon-ish.

The part that I'm not sure on is this little tidbit [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth:_Shadow_of_Mordor#Plot]: "Mordor is not yet a barren wasteland in this story".

Even though Gondor fielded some fortifications to keep watch over Mordor, most were almost entirely abandoned by the time where the Hobbit takes place. And I very much doubt that the climate or vegetation would've changed in that area, even during Sauron's absence (Volcano much?).

I'm still very much interested in seeing what Monolith does with the game.
 

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Thedutchjelle said:
The Apple BOOM said:
Marik2 said:
Are the Lord of the Rings movie tie in games, good? Been thinking of buying the trilogy for the ps2 and they seem to be a step above most movie tie in games.
The last 2 are great. The first one was awful. I'm still somewhat upset I don't have my copy of Two Towers anymore.
I actually think that the fellowship game was pretty good, as it actually followed the book more instead of the movies. TTT and RoTK were just hack-and-slash obvious movie tie ins. They even just took clips from the movies as cutscenes :\

Yeah - I was searching through these posts to find someone who said this to that post. The first game was great! Little hard to get into, what with it dumping a Nazgul on you right at the start - but it was original, it was lengthy, it was expansive and it was fun.
The two games after it...well. Run through this level, kill all these bastards. Big bastard appears. Kill the bigger bastard. Such innovative and in-depth gameplay.
 

cojo965

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I don't know. Why is it that I'm most known for Godzilla 2014 threads? WB is fast proving to be idiots in my eyes, I mean, I realize that this is their games division we're talking about here, but still. The example I just gave was some of the sloppiest handling of info leaks I have ever seen. You don't say some image is fake while simultaneously ordering it taken down it makes you look like you have something to hide. Then there was the new Batman game, that followed the line of thought to try and fix shit that didn't need fixing and was poorer for it. The only game I play from them regularly now is Mortal Kombat.
 

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Warner Bros are the crying kid in the middle of the aisle who started crying when he saw someone with a toy that he had. That was why they stopped what could've been one of the greatest mods.
 

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War in the North is actually pretty fun. I've been playing it and like the art direction and story so far :)
 

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Whereas, with Shadow of Mordor (my bad for getting the title wrong originally), this "spirit of vengeance" business really doesn't fuck with anything already established. Possession by an spirit is a new idea that hasn't been touched upon in the series. It could work just fine canonically as well as tone-wise, and it is kind of inline with the books considering undead spirits, wraiths, and wights are not without presence in Middle-earth. I mean, an entire army of undead specters was a major plot point in the last Lord of the Rings movie.
No, it doesn't.

No resurrections take place in his work and go against what he wrote, especially about Men.

Only one reincarnation took place with Glorfinel and only because he was an Elf and thus his spirit never left Ea and lingered in the Halls of Mandos, but he was a unique event and only because a quirk in Tolkien's personality and his refusal to give two Elves two separate names when he realized he'd given two the same name when Elfish names are unique.

Wraiths like the Nazgul did not die and were more liches like than anything while those in the Barrow-Downs were servants of Sauron who were sent to inhabit the Barrows and disrupt the local area.

The Dead of Dunharrow don't apply. They swore and oath and then broke it. They died but were not allowed the Gift of Men, to pass on beyond Ea like all Men, Hobbits and Dwarves are given (which is an extremely crucial and important facet of his overall work and a key theme) until they fulfilled their oath and were then released from it when they did do so.

In all cases none were brought back to life, and in the case of Glorfindal, he was given a second life, but it was a one time event.

This kind of silliness is why I loath works which aren't protected like Tolkien's work, they decay into comic book crap where they're constantly reinvented and the worlds fundamental rules are constantly rewritten to churn out my tripe. While Warner Brother's is able to do this, at least everyone knows to pay lip service to the weight of the work instead of fools arguing over Superman, DBZ, and other tripe.
 

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The Apple BOOM said:
Marik2 said:
Are the Lord of the Rings movie tie in games, good? Been thinking of buying the trilogy for the ps2 and they seem to be a step above most movie tie in games.
The last 2 are great. The first one was awful. I'm still somewhat upset I don't have my copy of Two Towers anymore.
That's because the first one wasn't a movie tie in. It was just a fetchquest based on the book. The last two had licenses to the movies and was a fun hack and slash.
 

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beastro said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
Whereas, with Shadow of Mordor (my bad for getting the title wrong originally), this "spirit of vengeance" business really doesn't fuck with anything already established. Possession by an spirit is a new idea that hasn't been touched upon in the series. It could work just fine canonically as well as tone-wise, and it is kind of inline with the books considering undead spirits, wraiths, and wights are not without presence in Middle-earth. I mean, an entire army of undead specters was a major plot point in the last Lord of the Rings movie.
No, it doesn't.

No resurrections take place in his work and go against what he wrote, especially about Men.

Only one reincarnation took place with Glorfinel and only because he was an Elf and thus his spirit never left Ea and lingered in the Halls of Mandos, but he was a unique event and only because a quirk in Tolkien's personality and his refusal to give two Elves two separate names when he realized he'd given two the same name when Elfish names are unique.

Wraiths like the Nazgul did not die and were more liches like than anything while those in the Barrow-Downs were servants of Sauron who were sent to inhabit the Barrows and disrupt the local area.

The Dead of Dunharrow don't apply. They swore and oath and then broke it. They died but were not allowed the Gift of Men, to pass on beyond Ea like all Men, Hobbits and Dwarves are given (which is an extremely crucial and important facet of his overall work and a key theme) until they fulfilled their oath and were then released from it when they did do so.

In all cases none were brought back to life, and in the case of Glorfindal, he was given a second life, but it was a one time event.

This kind of silliness is why I loath works which aren't protected like Tolkien's work, they decay into comic book crap where they're constantly reinvented and the worlds fundamental rules are constantly rewritten to churn out my tripe. While Warner Brother's is able to do this, at least everyone knows to pay lip service to the weight of the work instead of fools arguing over Superman, DBZ, and other tripe.
........ We're seriously splitting hairs here regarding which means of creating undead versus full-on being brought back to life is more valid in the Tolkien-verse. And let's be honest here, the actual nature of his revival has yet to be divulged (and you just know that whatever force has brought back Talion from death is in no way going to be as straight-forward as a simple revival from death). Or are you truly suggesting that the tragic, mysterious character who has supposedly been brought back to life is going to still be the same natural un-perverted un-cursed man in body and soul as he was before he died? I can assure you, whatever he is now, he won't just be a man who was "brought back to life" when the game actually releases. Whether you accept what he truly turns out to be or not is your own business.

And that was pretty much my point. Tolkien's universe is by no means a stranger to the concept of unlife, regardless of which appearance it disguises itself in.
 

kilenem

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Your asking Warner Brothers to make a good video game but they can't make a justice league movie even though they own all the rights to the DC movies and have their own movie studios.