This exactly. I may be tired of people constantly talking about sexism, but that doesn't mean I'm going to whine when someone points it out. It's not like fallacies should be suddenly viewed as acceptable debate practice if they becomes prevalent enough. If people are tired of hearing about them, then perhaps they should encourage others to stop utilizing them.varulfic said:
What phrases or topics immediately shut down your interest in a conversation?
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Easy one. Anyone who decides that his version of political correctness, racism, sexism, what ever ism is the only correct one. Hell going through this thread made me wanna block about 7 people who think they are the be all and end all.
I don't even give a damn if someone is racist. All humans are to some degree against some group. Anyone who sayds they aren't... is lying thorugh their teeth.
Am I racist? Yes. Do I admit that? yes. Do I try to fix it, yes. I actually go and make friends and aquantainces with the various groups I have various predjudices against to try and overcome them. Rather hard really. Funny how you dont know your own racist believes till you try and deal with them.
Does that make you better than me? No and go fuck yourdself for thinking you are.
I don't even give a damn if someone is racist. All humans are to some degree against some group. Anyone who sayds they aren't... is lying thorugh their teeth.
Am I racist? Yes. Do I admit that? yes. Do I try to fix it, yes. I actually go and make friends and aquantainces with the various groups I have various predjudices against to try and overcome them. Rather hard really. Funny how you dont know your own racist believes till you try and deal with them.
Does that make you better than me? No and go fuck yourdself for thinking you are.
"I'm not a racist, but yellow is a superior color to blue. You know it to be true in your heart." - an actual statement made to meDarkishFriend said:
OT: "So I was at the bar last night, when..." Oh goody. More stupid stories about people being drunk. Heard one, heard them all. No, I DON'T want to go to the bar with you tonight. Your story has not enticed me, it's made me consider invading the bar in the late morning and hanging crosses all over while smearing "The Power Of Christ Compels You" in blood on the walls. Wait, you did WHAT to the midget in the corner? You, the dude talking to me. Stahp.
Sports is probably the biggest one for me. No, I did not catch "the game" last night. No, I don't know who played. No, I do not care as to whether or not a bunch of people I don't know succeeded in tossing a ball around. I really don't. Why are we still having this conversation and why must you always bring it up.
For that matter, I hate when people start talking about a TV show, movie, game, whatever and just automatically assume you've seen/played it. Like "Man, wasn't that episode of Tosh.O last night so funny?" What the fuck is a Tosho? That show on Comedy Central? No, I did not see it, nor do I really want to. I understand you want to find common ground, but there's better ways to go about it.
For that matter, I hate when people start talking about a TV show, movie, game, whatever and just automatically assume you've seen/played it. Like "Man, wasn't that episode of Tosh.O last night so funny?" What the fuck is a Tosho? That show on Comedy Central? No, I did not see it, nor do I really want to. I understand you want to find common ground, but there's better ways to go about it.
LOL way to propagate a stereotype. He wasn't trying to upset you or offend you. He was mentioning a humorous anecdote and was simply using a person of African-American descent and their mysterious predilection towards deep fried avian critters and you decided to block him and make a post about how he offended you? At what point do you realize this isn't productive behavior?krazykidd said:
People say white Americans are fat and coast on the backs of migrant workers. As a skinny white male who has worked 2 jobs every day for years before I decided to become a stay at home dad for my daughter, i don't embody any stereotype. Do i laugh at them? Sure do. Ignorance is hilarious. Especially bigoted ignorance. He never said the N word. Never called YOU out personally for liking or disliking deep fried avian critters, so how did he offend YOU? I really don't get people sometimes...
Elitists. People that think certain games or activities should only belong to them and their kin. STOP IT
Fanboys. Honestly, i'm so sick of the pc vs console crowd in this particular instance. PC is better, NO Console is better. Why don't you play what you like and live and let live?
MMO Fanatics. We get it. Some people like WoW. Some like SWToR. Some like GW2, some like Everquest! Why does it offend you if someone doesn't like what you like? It makes no bloody sense. So x person hates mmo y. BIG. FREAKING. DEAL.
Whenever someone uses the term PC Master Race. It's not humorous anymore, nor is it funny.
Fanboys. Honestly, i'm so sick of the pc vs console crowd in this particular instance. PC is better, NO Console is better. Why don't you play what you like and live and let live?
MMO Fanatics. We get it. Some people like WoW. Some like SWToR. Some like GW2, some like Everquest! Why does it offend you if someone doesn't like what you like? It makes no bloody sense. So x person hates mmo y. BIG. FREAKING. DEAL.
Whenever someone uses the term PC Master Race. It's not humorous anymore, nor is it funny.
Religion. It is just not a topic I really like talking about and get really riled up when someone tries to force the topic upon me. It does not matter if it is Christians, Jews, or Atheists. I do not want to talk about it.
Sports and music
I pay no attention to any professional sporting events, and, although I do enjoy music, I am not very knowledgeable in any area of music and I don't know the names of many of the songs I enjoy or the bands that pay them.
unfortunately, those are very common things for people to bond over so it sort of handicaps my social skills : \
I pay no attention to any professional sporting events, and, although I do enjoy music, I am not very knowledgeable in any area of music and I don't know the names of many of the songs I enjoy or the bands that pay them.
unfortunately, those are very common things for people to bond over so it sort of handicaps my social skills : \
Usually it's either some variation of "lost my faith in humanity" or "I'm so random".
For the former it's almost always abused by egotistical twats to the point of having no meaning, and usually over something that is (in the grand scheme of things) pretty minor. Unless you're having a religious or existential crisis, I don't see how a university banning the image of a NES Zapper from a club's poster or a television program about Italian-Americans in a beach house being renewed merits that response. Please stop casually damning your entire species stretching back to its very foundation over it.
For the later, it's the pretense of being unique and edgy derived from the heavily premeditated use of words, actions, and appearances. I find their calculated inconsistencies and verbal penchant for mainstream geek culture neither endearing nor engaging. When I have to slog through paragraphs of people tYPinG LiEk ThiS or name dropping Invander Zim and Waffles as if their computer had tourettes, I immediately lose interest in any point they were trying to make and any future points they might try to convey (like the thrumming of a lawnmower in the background, they just become ambient noise).
For the former it's almost always abused by egotistical twats to the point of having no meaning, and usually over something that is (in the grand scheme of things) pretty minor. Unless you're having a religious or existential crisis, I don't see how a university banning the image of a NES Zapper from a club's poster or a television program about Italian-Americans in a beach house being renewed merits that response. Please stop casually damning your entire species stretching back to its very foundation over it.
For the later, it's the pretense of being unique and edgy derived from the heavily premeditated use of words, actions, and appearances. I find their calculated inconsistencies and verbal penchant for mainstream geek culture neither endearing nor engaging. When I have to slog through paragraphs of people tYPinG LiEk ThiS or name dropping Invander Zim and Waffles as if their computer had tourettes, I immediately lose interest in any point they were trying to make and any future points they might try to convey (like the thrumming of a lawnmower in the background, they just become ambient noise).
Ya, the moment I hear someone start citing a bible passage to back up an argument I do a mental facepalm. And I'm a Catholic.Bestival said:
Whether or not the Bible is actually a holy text you can't base an argument completely on the unfounded and unproven assumption that it is, especially if your arguing against someone who doesn't share that belief.
It's like saying "evolution must be true because it says so in the Origin of Species". A book by itself isn't evidence, it's just a person's words, heresay. You have to go beyond that and argue actual proven facts and your own deduced logic if you want to make a compelling argument.
Anyone that needs to identify the camp they've assigned themselves to before giving their opinion, and anything related to race. Most things related to politics or religion are a good way to make me opt out, as well, not because of my own stances, but because they're two areas people tend to be at their most condescending, fanatical, and unreasonable.
"Dumbed down". Usually accompanied by "for consoles", but not always. I'm sorry, but I have no interest in beginning or continuing a conversation with somebody who feels the need to insinuate that people who play console games, or even just modern games as I've occasionally seen, are stupider than people who can't enjoy anything less complex than Baldur's Gate, and will adamantly state that they think Baldur's Gate is too simple for them anyway.
I can think of any number of situations were bringing up a logical fallacy in a persons philosophy or argument would be a real point. Care to be specific?Marter said:
I feel he is probably referring to the fallacy fallacy. ie. You used a fallacy, therefore I win the argument. That is one of the more annoying artefacts of discussion forums.Anoni Mus said:
But I do agree in principle that fallacies have to be addressed.